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I actually have 50 joins for each source. For example Source-1 KP-1 would
be join 51/id 10 and Source-2 KP-1 would be join 101/id 10. I only use
different RF ID's for Zone commands. This allows for you to use the search
and replace feature in Integration Designer. The range is pretty far, so I
have not needed more than 1 gateway. I talked with TB about multiple
gateways. Multiple gateways only act as antenna array. The net id of the
gateways is really only identification on the cresnet network. Any gateway
will respond and repeat any RF ID that it sees. If I was given
misinformation please correct me.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Chris Erskine
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:33 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: RTI T2-C



After playing with the Integration Designer, I think what John G was meaning
was that no matter what page you were on, the 1 key would use the same join
number. This would fit in with the use of crosspoint routing in the system.
If you had another remote, it would be using a new RF ID. Or using the trick
that I think Tony had, you would use a different set of joins using the same
RF ID.

Chris

I they would still be able to use the local controls without the G50,
but I'll confirm that.

Thanks for the reply.

--- In Crestron@..., "mike303858" <mike@...> wrote:

Tony,
I've not used this Intesis but have used a Procon IP32 Modbus
Interface connected to a G50. That way the A/C system can still be
operated from the G50 if there's any problems with the Intesis or
Crestron systems.

--- In Crestron@..., "Tony Golden" <mrgolden@> wrote:

Has anyone integrated a Mitsubishi Mr. Slim, or other, A/C system

with

the Intesis Modbus box?



The contractor has asked me whether this would be better than

using

Mitsubishi's G50 controller.

Thanks in advance, for any input.

I agree with earlier posts that both HAI and GE offer nice robust
keypad emulation, and I prefer working with them. I have noticed a
tendency for Crestron systems communicating with an HAI to lock up.
This appears to be due to processor overload on medium to large
systems. Easily resolved by using a QM-RMC as a stand alone processor
for the security system.

Having said that, and adding that I've never tried the keypad
emulation for the "FBP," a number of the integrators I program for use
"BP" panels exclusively. I've managed to write a series of modules
that works very well, and while it isn't strictly speaking keypad
emulation its close enough that the clients don't seem to notice. Most
of the information exists in the protocol so that you can scroll
through open zones and such on the touch panels, so that it looks like
"keypad emulation."

I guess the point that I making is that the Ademco works well enough,
if you work within certain boundaries.

Luke

the suggestions i got did not get the look i wanted. After hearing back from TB, i was told that there is not much i can do change the placement of parameters. And one thing i did not think about which they told me, if i really wanted the symbol to look a certain way, i need to wrap my module into a user module where i can shape it how i want in the argument definition.

I did just that and it's just how i want now.

Thanks Guys for the replies!
Very much appreciated




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From: maxpower68 <maxpower68@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:52:33 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Simpl+ Parameters


A-Men Brother,,,,,

--- In Crestron@yahoogroup s.com, "Steve Kaudle" <steve@...> wrote:

The line would look something like:

digital_input _skip_, input1, input2;

Add as many instances of "_skip_" as you have parameters.

The same method can be applied to the output, or you can use the
declaration "#output_shift X", where X is the number of spaces you
want the first output shifted down.

Why there is no "#input_shift" declaration is anybody's guess?

--- In Crestron@yahoogroup s.com, roomy4545 <roomy4545@> wrote:

So how do you type it?

should it be "digital_input test1"_SKIP_
then parameters (that's how i'm doing it)

or should it be the parameters first then skip then the digital

inputs?

or should the skip then digital parameters.. .?

Could you show an example


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From: maxpower68 <maxpower68@ >
To: Crestron@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:01:39 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Simpl+ Parameters


Yes se the "_SKIP_" this will drop the digital inputs below the
parameters. This is the only way to do this. It's back ass wards

but

it works.

Max

--- In Crestron@yahoogroup s.com, roomy4545 <roomy4545@ ..> wrote:

Anyone know why with my simpl+ the digital inputs are on the

same

line as parameters (when you look at the symbol in Simpl?). Is

there

a way you are supposed to declare them so i can see the names of

the

digital/serial input names and for the parameters to go at the

bottom

of the symbol.

?
As it stands now, the paraters start at the top of the symbol

and

go down. I tried using the "_SKIP_" to try to create space

between my

input symbols and the parameters.

?
Any help would be appreciated




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--- In Crestron@..., "jawpaul007" <jawpaul@...> wrote:

What do you all recommend as an inexpensive vhs/dvd combo unit to be
Crestron controlled. Looking for something with discreet IR codes for
power, and vcr/dvd mode. Last year we used some Samsung units which
had poor reliability on the DVD side of things.

John

Not really sure why people still look for discrete power on these
devices, they turn on when you insert media or push play...

I've been using JVC stuff for a while with no issues.

What do you all recommend as an inexpensive vhs/dvd combo unit to be
Crestron controlled. Looking for something with discreet IR codes for
power, and vcr/dvd mode. Last year we used some Samsung units which
had poor reliability on the DVD side of things.

John

Does anybody know the required equipment to interface a leviton
lighting system to my clients crestron units?

I assume there is the equivelient to the lutron Grafic eye for
leviton?

Or at least a relay box.

Maybe you could think about using more crosspoint connections, think
about the destinations as equipment crosspoints rather than the
sources themselves.

When you connect your TP to the destinations, the source selections
as 21 presses to an 'after the crosspoint' init / equate scenario
would do all your routing for you rather than a bunch of steppers.
Maybe more work up front, but adding another display or source would
be rather easy compared to your other alternative.



wrote:

Eeek! (and you're welcome ;) )

My advice would be to try to find a way to reduce the source

selections to an analog value or values -- I don't know enough about
your architecture to select a specific method, and plus a guy has to
keep some tricks up his sleeve. Use the analog(s) to deal with the
signal routing [e.g. analog into ATOS to build the routing string for
each matrix output] and group sources by input types (e.g. VGA
sources, Composite sources, etc) and at most you're dealing with a
handful of steppers

e.g Select PC1:
1) Initialize analog(s) for matrix(ies) and and send serial routing

command based on the new analog value

2) Goes into OR for any PC source which kicks off Stepper for "any

VGA input"

There are a bunch of ways to deal with this, some (my personal

favorites) can do input selection, room power, and matrix routing
kicking everything off with a single analog (which makes room
combining REALLY easy ;) )

Lincoln

________________________________________
From: Crestron@... [Crestron@...] On Behalf

Of jschaud [jschaud@...]

Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:45 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Lots of sources-- would like some advice

Been playing around on paper with a system that I have to work on
soon. Its going to be 21 video sources that will be routable to any

of

8 tvs. There are a few different matrix switchers involved, fyi. I

am

pretty sure that I am going to need 168 steppers to move each

switcher

to the right position. I am just confused on the best way to trigger
each stepper.

I am going to use two different crosspoints--1 for the room and 1

for

the actual source (Thank you very much LKC, your advice is

appreciated

more than you would believe) Should I just interlock the rooms and

the

sources and use buffers to hit the correct stepper? It kind of feels
like a waste to go through that since I am already going to be using
crosspoints. Would analog equates using the equipment ID#s make any

sense?

If I came out of the room analog equate into the enable line of 8
buffers, I could then put the 21 different sources into each of the
buffers using the analog equate outputs for the sources. So in

total,

I am looking at

2 crosspoints --->
2 analog equates --->
8 buffers of 21 inputs --->
168 steppers




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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in

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Yahoo! Groups Links

So it is definitely confirmed that adding motion sensors to the
system will lock it up?
The INITIALIZE input on the keypad emulation module does a good job
of refreshing the two line text and feedback.
I have been working with Crestron for the past few weeks to get this
resolved. 3 or 4 separate sites have an FBP system running all with
the same symptoms and I'm being thrown on wild goose chases checking
wires, loading demo programs, and burning bridges with my alarm
integrators.
I should be getting an Ademco test unit in my office here to play
around with. I am looking forward to seeing what happens.
Thanks for the heads up. Is it time to move on from Ademco?

--- In Crestron@..., "jrc.audiovideo" <jamesclaflin@...>
wrote:

I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend

just

trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once

motions

and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Regards,

Jim

Eeek! (and you're welcome ;) )

My advice would be to try to find a way to reduce the source selections to an analog value or values -- I don't know enough about your architecture to select a specific method, and plus a guy has to keep some tricks up his sleeve. Use the analog(s) to deal with the signal routing [e.g. analog into ATOS to build the routing string for each matrix output] and group sources by input types (e.g. VGA sources, Composite sources, etc) and at most you're dealing with a handful of steppers

e.g Select PC1:
1) Initialize analog(s) for matrix(ies) and and send serial routing command based on the new analog value
2) Goes into OR for any PC source which kicks off Stepper for "any VGA input"

There are a bunch of ways to deal with this, some (my personal favorites) can do input selection, room power, and matrix routing kicking everything off with a single analog (which makes room combining REALLY easy ;) )

Lincoln

________________________________________
From: Crestron@... [Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jschaud [jschaud@...]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:45 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Lots of sources-- would like some advice

Been playing around on paper with a system that I have to work on
soon. Its going to be 21 video sources that will be routable to any of
8 tvs. There are a few different matrix switchers involved, fyi. I am
pretty sure that I am going to need 168 steppers to move each switcher
to the right position. I am just confused on the best way to trigger
each stepper.

I am going to use two different crosspoints--1 for the room and 1 for
the actual source (Thank you very much LKC, your advice is appreciated
more than you would believe) Should I just interlock the rooms and the
sources and use buffers to hit the correct stepper? It kind of feels
like a waste to go through that since I am already going to be using
crosspoints. Would analog equates using the equipment ID#s make any sense?

If I came out of the room analog equate into the enable line of 8
buffers, I could then put the 21 different sources into each of the
buffers using the analog equate outputs for the sources. So in total,
I am looking at

2 crosspoints --->
2 analog equates --->
8 buffers of 21 inputs --->
168 steppers




------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

The batteries don't work simultaneously, they work one after the other. Meaning when the first battery is exhausted (battery gauge at half), it goes to the second one (battery gauge empty). If the internal is always dead, your battery meter will only show half full. Aside from that all I know is that my kids toys tell me not to mix old and new batteries :)

Joe

--- In Crestron@..., "Mike Janis" <psirxus@...> wrote:

I haven't had any problems with any of the CEN-RGBHV units. Great
build quality (Thanks Kramer) and dead-simple programming.

If you choose to use the INIT method of routing, remember that you
must hold "Video Enter" and "Audio Enter" under Slot 1 high.

Have you noticed any delay in your video switching? Meaning when you
init the value (and have AV enter held high) that it still takes a
moment (enough time for the display to 'go blue') before the new route
is made?

I have a client who has TPMC 8Xs with worn out internal batteries. I am under the impression that the external battery pack has more juice than the internal one. Can I just add the externals and leave the worn out internals, or does the internal need to be replaced first?

Thanks, Heath

I haven't had any problems with any of the CEN-RGBHV units. Great
build quality (Thanks Kramer) and dead-simple programming.

If you choose to use the INIT method of routing, remember that you
must hold "Video Enter" and "Audio Enter" under Slot 1 high.

Don't let all the options overwhelm you. If you're just trying to
route signals, it's really straightforward. With Extron, you're used
to triggering a string like I*O! to route input "I" to output "O" with
both audio and video.

With the CEN-RGBHV, instead of triggering strings, you're using
INITs to generate analogs. If you have digital signal that goes high
to represent "I want to route input 3 to output 5", attach that signal
to an INIT, which in turn feeds the output 5 analog signal on the
router's symbol. Make that signal on the INIT set the analog value to
3, and you're done. You can either attach that analog signal to both
V and A inputs on the symbol, or I believe there's a digital input you
can latch high that will force audio to follow video.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "Andy Maxey" <andy@...> wrote:

I'm used to Extron, Autopatch and Sierra Video and was a little

surprised

when I saw the available options. An example would help get it clear

in my

mind what's going on.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On

Behalf

Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:28 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CEN-RGBHV8X8



--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>

, "Andy

Maxey" <andy@> wrote:

Is anyone aware of an example program for any of the Crestron CEN-

RGBHV

switchers? I wasn't able to find one on Crestron's website.



Andy

These work exactly like any type of Crestron device. Use analogs to
select the input for a specified output. Are you having specific
trouble that we could help with?

Read the help file for examples. You'd probably be most comfortable
using the Control$ serial input on Slot01, then you can just pretend
it's a serial switcher with a new protocol.

--
Jeremy Weatherford

I'm used to Extron, Autopatch and Sierra Video and was a little surprised
when I saw the available options. An example would help get it clear in my
mind what's going on.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:28 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CEN-RGBHV8X8



--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Andy
Maxey" <andy@...> wrote:

Is anyone aware of an example program for any of the Crestron CEN-

RGBHV

switchers? I wasn't able to find one on Crestron's website.



Andy

These work exactly like any type of Crestron device. Use analogs to
select the input for a specified output. Are you having specific
trouble that we could help with?

CADDX polls things in a tight loop based on the number of zones you
told the module.

Might have to insert a short delay somewhere to cut back on the endless
flow of traffic.




--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to

use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual
idea being to put it on its own processor)

Have you tried loading the firmware onto a compact flash card, and then doing the update locally?

Chris

chuckd73026 wrote:

Hey guys, I have a TPMC17CH that is booting into 1024 x 768
resolution, instead of 1280 x 768 like it's supposed to. I've tried to
reload the firmware, but it won't take it (simply errors out).

In Setup, the display resolution doesn't show up like on a normal panel.

Is there some weird hidden file that got reset in the unit? The panel
sure isn't very usable when it's only displaying about 2/3 of the width.

Hopefully somebody has seen this before.

Thanks in advance,

Chuck