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Re: older MMS - new OS?

 

there is a newer OS mentioned on their site
i contacted them & it is only available thru my local dealer
just wondering what you get


Re: older MMS - new OS?

 

5.35.20220325.0 Release. Was my last MM5A release

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:27 AM bi0drain <naplesisnotmyhome@...> wrote:
So When did a new revision come out.. I have an MM5A...?

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:26 AM mark kaye <markkaye@...> wrote:
i have an MMS-2A
i see there is a new OS
is it worth pursuing?

?mark


Re: older MMS - new OS?

 

So When did a new revision come out.. I have an MM5A...?


On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:26 AM mark kaye <markkaye@...> wrote:
i have an MMS-2A
i see there is a new OS
is it worth pursuing?

?mark


older MMS - new OS?

 

i have an MMS-2A
i see there is a new OS
is it worth pursuing?

?mark


Re: NVX RTSP stream

 

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These are two groups that are being jammed together like nuclear fusion and the culture clash is sometimes the worst part.


Often IT people are just as oblivious to AV as AV people can be to IT and don't appreciate someone telling them how to do their job. Add to that the fact that most IT people have never had to deal with and aren't (historically) trained to deal with? the realities of high bit rate multicast...and therefore virtually no network is properly configured to support it until the issue gets pressed... it's human nature to blame the things you don't understand (see also: Salem witch trials)


A lot of times all it takes is someone who can build the bridge between the two groups and confidently explain the "why" as much as the "what" and "how" rather than making what appear to be blind demands. More therapy and conversation than demands and duels...

Getting the client in the right mindset is also important...for one of the systems I designed I started laying the network expectations foundations about a year before we even finalized the design, much less started installation -- what that knowledge the client was able to ensure that what they were procuring on the network side meshed with AV expectations so that wouldn't be an unpleasant surprise. But I also had discussions with the CIO e.g. "this is what I think is best for you and what I'd like to do but your team needs to be on board with X, Y, Z because A, B, C, if that not possible here's another direction we can go..." -- if I just rolled in and was like "gimme X, Y, Z or this thing you bought won't work" I probably would have been escorted from the building...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:31:19 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] NVX RTSP stream
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Sounds to mee more like school network administration is behind, not you.

Network convergence is not that new anymore that this should be a reason not to integrate VoIP or AoIP into a corporate/school network.

I think it?s more an issue off backwards looking network administration and lack of training¡­

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Just my 2 cents,

Thorsten

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Mike Moso via groups.io
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Januar 2023 16:14
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] NVX RTSP stream

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Folks -?

After two decades in higher education, let me weigh in on NVX. Dealing with the NOC (Network Operation Center) at a few Universities, it is apparent that NVX is a non-starter on the school network. The only way to use NVX in Higher Ed is to create a private network with independent AV swithces which defeats the whole purpose of NVX and any input to any output.

I have resisted NVX products for this very reason and will stick to HDBaseT until my dying breath in the AV Industry. I know it sounds backwards but Crestron does not answer to the University NOC - however, I do.

Tell me your thoughts...

Best Regards

AV Programmer
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Re: NVX RTSP stream

 

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I've had NVX? (1G) and 10G (SDVoE) deployed on Meraki and while I'm really not a fan of Meraki for a number of reasons (for one I hate switches where you have to use a web UI much less a cloud-based web UI to configure) and my client that most recently adopted Meraki is having regrets for similar reasons, with the settings correct it does generally work.?

First NVX-on-Meraki project was a couple years ago and the client hasn't mentioned any issues, the first? SDVoE one is an ongoing install but video is passing without any noted issues.

Lincoln

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of zac.sparrow@... <zac.sparrow@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 7:16:18 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] NVX RTSP stream
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If the Cisco switches are "Meraki", I think you are going to have hard time getting NVX work.


Re: NVX RTSP stream

 

If the Cisco switches are "Meraki", I think you are going to have hard time getting NVX work.


Re: Dali

 

Hi Gumppy66, where can I find the one touch driver? Thanks


Re: Dali

 

Come enjoy zencontrol Oliver it's lots?of fun ! I really love the flexibility especially after the gyprock is up?


On Sat, 14 Jan 2023, 19:28 Oliver Hall, <oliver.hall@...> wrote:
I¡¯m not a huge fan of DALI, but what you¡¯re describing there isn¡¯t normal - certainly not a characteristic of DALI itself.? We have DALI in the office (using Crestron DIN-DALI-2 and the Lutron interface) and there¡¯s no perceptible delay on scene recalls, or staggered changes across groups.

Each ballast can be configured with ramp times - is it possible you have different values set for different ballasts? And lights should be grouped - not controlled individually - that way a single broadcast to a group triggers the change on multiple ballasts.? There¡¯s nothing intrinsic to DALI that should mean the change isn¡¯t instant and uniform.

You¡¯ve almost got *me* liking DALI there¡­ but I still don¡¯t like it. ;-)? I always find the config/changes a PITA.? And why do they call it a DALI loop, when it¡¯s not a loop?!

Oliver Hall






Re: Dali

 

I¡¯m not a huge fan of DALI, but what you¡¯re describing there isn¡¯t normal - certainly not a characteristic of DALI itself. We have DALI in the office (using Crestron DIN-DALI-2 and the Lutron interface) and there¡¯s no perceptible delay on scene recalls, or staggered changes across groups.

Each ballast can be configured with ramp times - is it possible you have different values set for different ballasts? And lights should be grouped - not controlled individually - that way a single broadcast to a group triggers the change on multiple ballasts. There¡¯s nothing intrinsic to DALI that should mean the change isn¡¯t instant and uniform.

You¡¯ve almost got *me* liking DALI there¡­ but I still don¡¯t like it. ;-) I always find the config/changes a PITA. And why do they call it a DALI loop, when it¡¯s not a loop?!

Oliver Hall


Re: Dali

 

Dali is awesome there is a one touch driver for controls. There isn't an on / off as such as all dali stuff dims you can ramp it to 100% /254 over zero seconds?


On Sat, 14 Jan 2023, 06:49 Adam, <adamfeare@...> wrote:
I am about to have a play with Dali for my own home.? Having looked at the at the Dali device in a program I see the raise/lower, etc, but how do you turn a ballast on from off? There is no discrete on..... I must be being really stupid!?


Re: Lutron Homeworks QSX

 

Had this exact issue and Crestron provided an RMA AV3.? I noticed that that the SN changed its format.? Went from starting with a 1 and having letters to starting with a 2 and no letters.


Re: Dali

 

What are you using as a gateway for the Dali?? I've recently built my home using Dynalite with a combination of din rail home run dimmers for some rooms and dali for others.? Purely used the dali because there were some large open areas in the house where I wasn't sure how I wanted to group the lights and dali gives me the flexibility to reconfigure circuits dynamically and add new circuits easily.?

One thing I will say is that beware that for home use, where lights are turned on/off quite often, dali is painfully slow.? Press my hall light switch and wait 2s for the lights to come on.? Alot of people turn lights on and think they didn't press the button properly as the light isn't instant and end up pressing the button again, turning the light back off.? There is no getting around the dali lag.?

Also the popcorn effect is somewhat annoying too.? 10 downlights in my hallway, all grouped as one dali circuit.? Turn them on and every light comes on at slightly different times. Fractions of a second but noticeable.?

Ramping lights up and down is very laggy also.? Try to stop ramping when the light level is where you want, release the button and ramping continues for a split second resulting in a higher or lower light level than you actually want.?

If I was doing my lighting again, everything would be home run dimmers and I would limit dali to just feature lighting.

I know this post provides zero information on programming? but thought I would share a few little gotchyas with the dali system.??


Re: NVX RTSP stream

 

To come back to your RTSP stream on VLC player. The newer NVX boxes produce two different streams. One is the full bandwidth encrypted one that goes to the NVX decoder HDMI output. The second stream Crestron calls "image preview" and refreshes every second or two. This "image preview" stream can be accessed from VLC player or even a Crestron Touchpanel.? For full security it can also be turned off in the web interface of the encoder/decoder.

The statement that NVX doesn't work on Cisco is just false.


Re: Dali

 

Set your scenes in the ballasts and recall them in simpl.


Re: Dali

 

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I have not been able to play with DALI yet
But I remember you could set scenes (%).
Trigger a preset scene with (100%).

Regards
Ahmad Hesham.?





-------- Original message --------
From: Adam <adamfeare@...>
Date: 1/13/23 9:49 PM (GMT+02:00)
Subject: [crestron] Dali

I am about to have a play with Dali for my own home.? Having looked at the at the Dali device in a program I see the raise/lower, etc, but how do you turn a ballast on from off? There is no discrete on..... I must be being really stupid!?


Dali

 

I am about to have a play with Dali for my own home.? Having looked at the at the Dali device in a program I see the raise/lower, etc, but how do you turn a ballast on from off? There is no discrete on..... I must be being really stupid!?


Samsung Terrace HDBT input

 

If anyone has used the Terrace HDBT input, would you please verify if there is any control (Ethernet, RS-232, CEC, etc.) function or is it just the picture and sound? ?This is the first time I have contemplated using one on a project and I have been reading manuals and such but there seems to be no info available on the HBDT input.

Looking to replace a damaged Mirage Vision QLED that is connected with Binary HDBT/IR control and I am wondering if I can get rid of the receiver at the TV.

TIA
Kol


Re: NVX RTSP stream

 
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I work for a University.? We've deployed NVX and other AV over IP devices (thank you Crestron supply chain issues) on the campus network with full support/assistance from our network engineering team.? NVX is not the problem.? Poor relationships within the organization are.? Build those relationships, then build the systems.


Re: Getting other than English text on a touch panel.

 

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The UC-xx-TEAMS product functionality and access are basically locked down by Microsoft.? The UC engine is really just a compact Windows computer running the Teams application with the touch panel running remote desktop.? Setup is exactly as one would do on their desktop computer, with some additional Crestron related settings.

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If you are in the Teams app, the way to change languages is through Teams user settings, click on user profile picture (upper right) > settings > general > language.

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If you have custom pages defined you can manage the language in simpl on your external processor.? There is a ghost of a chance that a ¡°change language¡± packet could be sent to the teams engine, but I am betting the UC engine will not allow that.? I am also betting there is no way of determining which language is in use by Teams, so if you have custom pages there will be a two-step process i.e. change Teams then change custom pages.? Last, but not least, is getting the system to revert to the standard language, almost certainly impossible to automate . . .

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The Teams team at TB is pretty good, though, so best bet is to check with them.

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of mark kaye <markkaye@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, January 13, 2023 at 6:47 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] Getting other than English text on a touch panel.

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i understand the SIMPL side, but i have to quote on a job with a UC-CX100-T engine, how does teams switch between languages i.e. English/French
the requirement is to be able to switch on any page?

?mark