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Loading VT files to CP4

 

I just ran into an issue when I can load Some VT files into the web/mobility section of a CP4, BUT not others????
Both are iPad/Crestron App files
One loads, the other doesn't - both say project successfully loaded but only one shows up in the tool
I can load the 'problem' file into a CP3 no problem

Anyone else see this issue??? I'm running the latest FW -?v2.7000.00052

TIA!


QSYS with Mat Klucznyk Github

 

Hello.
I was forced to use the Github QSYS modules.
I reached out to Mat Klucznyk on FB but thought I might ask here as I have seen some previous posts.

First. I could not get the QSYS 2.21 Modules to work. The Fader MUTE ON worked. but the Toggle and OFF did not work.
And when trying to fade up/down it would only move one step and no further.?
I rolled back to version 2.0.0 and that seemed to resolve. so not sure if that is a known issue or not.?

Second. the CP4 is getting slammed with the following RX Message {"jsonrpc":"2.0","method":"ChangeGroup.Poll","params":{"Id":"1","Changes":[]}}\x00

Is that normal? should I be worried I am going to bog down the processor?

Thank you
-Scott??


Re: calendar sync modules

 

also not opposed to an interfacing solution I could run on docker or a vm. Seems like there might be some program invented for another purpose that I might be able to use as middleware.


calendar sync modules

 

Do you guys know of any modules for sale that could sync up with a cloud calendar and display upcoming events on a panel? No talking about fusion or room scheduling.
Basically I want to see if i could populate a list on a touch panel/dge of google calendar events for the day


Re: NVX vs. SVSI

 

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Jeff, I¡¯m not sure how you reached the understanding that we are only point-to-point, but it is not right.? Just Add Power has always provided many-to-many functionality (our original CEDIA demo was a 5x9 many to many matrix).? This has been true since 2008.? All of our current offerings provide many-to-many support and have been successfully implemented in a wide range of settings.? This includes VLAN and Multicast implementations.? We have countless installations with 100+ devices.? For example, the Cincinnati Reds ballpark installation is a many to many with over 300 end points.

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With regards to downmixing, we have a series of Transmitters that provide a stereo downmix at the rack/source, whilst also supporting Dolby 5.1 distribution over the LAN.

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Please send me a message if you would like to get a loaner system to evaluate the Just Add Power solution for AV over IP.

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Ed Qualls

Chief Executive Officer

+1-727-475-7033

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Re: Managing/Processing volume

 

The outputs of the analog step could be connected to an EQU to and SIO to send the discrete steps. As an analog you can store it like any other signal.

As you stated, you could just use a raise/lower if the AVR has that feature and process?the feedback for user display and to store for preset/zone presets that are then decoded on recall. Lots of ways to do this.

The analog increment allows you to not deal with the rounding issues. You could always store the converted % amount and convert backed to your signed values on a preset recall.


On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:50 AM MSTC <kol.mstc@...> wrote:

I send the discrete volume level to the AVR.? It is much easier to deal with it that way.? Use a volume control module to generate analog value then use a bit of logic to send it.? Plus is it is then able to be treated the same as a Crestron device (SWAMP, PAD-8 . . .) and you can do the memorize preset volumes thing, initialize to a start-up level, or whatever other joy-joy stuff you might do with a multi-zone system.? Even though most of the Crestron modules I have seen use raise and lower, virtually all AVRs or processors that allow third party control allow setting volume level directly.

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For serial control of Aventage the volume direct format is @MAIN:VOL=11.0\n or @MAIN:VOL=-11.0\n.?

I ASCALEL the raw volume level.? 0%,100% scales to -80, 16 (or reduce the output range to something like -50, 0 to set the volume of the AVR to a barely audible minimum and limit the top end, similar to VolMin and VolMax inputs on the PAD8.)

I EQU the scaled level to get a signal for each level command.? The digitals out of EQU drive SIO.

I also use AOS (* output) on the TX$ for the AVR to do a 0.2 sec disable of the EQU to allow the AVR to process the command before sending the next during ramping.

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of ckangis <chris@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 8:41 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] Managing/Processing volume

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Re: dB display - our normal clients barely understand %, dB would confuse them even more!!? HaHa!!

Re: adding the two extreme values:
I'll look at that, but I think that the basic issue is analog values being slightly different when scaled vs. our level analogs.


The root problem is that we have a consumer piece that uses Pro Audio parameters...:(


Re: Managing/Processing volume

 

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I send the discrete volume level to the AVR.? It is much easier to deal with it that way.? Use a volume control module to generate analog value then use a bit of logic to send it.? Plus is it is then able to be treated the same as a Crestron device (SWAMP, PAD-8 . . .) and you can do the memorize preset volumes thing, initialize to a start-up level, or whatever other joy-joy stuff you might do with a multi-zone system.? Even though most of the Crestron modules I have seen use raise and lower, virtually all AVRs or processors that allow third party control allow setting volume level directly.

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For serial control of Aventage the volume direct format is @MAIN:VOL=11.0\n or @MAIN:VOL=-11.0\n.?

I ASCALEL the raw volume level.? 0%,100% scales to -80, 16 (or reduce the output range to something like -50, 0 to set the volume of the AVR to a barely audible minimum and limit the top end, similar to VolMin and VolMax inputs on the PAD8.)

I EQU the scaled level to get a signal for each level command. ?The digitals out of EQU drive SIO.

I also use AOS (* output) on the TX$ for the AVR to do a 0.2 sec disable of the EQU to allow the AVR to process the command before sending the next during ramping.

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of ckangis <chris@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 8:41 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] Managing/Processing volume

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Re: dB display - our normal clients barely understand %, dB would confuse them even more!!? HaHa!!

Re: adding the two extreme values:
I'll look at that, but I think that the basic issue is analog values being slightly different when scaled vs. our level analogs.


The root problem is that we have a consumer piece that uses Pro Audio parameters...:(


Re: Managing/Processing volume

 

Have you tried using an Analog Increment set to the actual 97 steps that you are using? The delayed feedback would force it back in a native format so that you aren't dealing with rounding issues.

You could then use an Analog Scaler with IO Limits to present a % to the use that is never used in the actual control and feedback correction.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:08 AM Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote:

?Re: dB display - our normal clients barely understand %, dB would confuse them even more!!? HaHa!!¡°

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Ouch! ?

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von ckangis
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. M?rz 2022 17:42
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] Managing/Processing volume

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Re: dB display - our normal clients barely understand %, dB would confuse them even more!!? HaHa!!

Re: adding the two extreme values:
I'll look at that, but I think that the basic issue is analog values being slightly different when scaled vs. our level analogs.


The root problem is that we have a consumer piece that uses Pro Audio parameters...:(


Re: Managing/Processing volume

 

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?Re: dB display - our normal clients barely understand %, dB would confuse them even more!!? HaHa!!¡°

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Ouch! ?

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von ckangis
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. M?rz 2022 17:42
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] Managing/Processing volume

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Re: dB display - our normal clients barely understand %, dB would confuse them even more!!? HaHa!!

Re: adding the two extreme values:
I'll look at that, but I think that the basic issue is analog values being slightly different when scaled vs. our level analogs.


The root problem is that we have a consumer piece that uses Pro Audio parameters...:(


Re: Managing/Processing volume

 

Re: dB display - our normal clients barely understand %, dB would confuse them even more!!? HaHa!!

Re: adding the two extreme values:
I'll look at that, but I think that the basic issue is analog values being slightly different when scaled vs. our level analogs.


The root problem is that we have a consumer piece that uses Pro Audio parameters...:(


Topics in Home Automation - New Article in Residential Tech Today

 

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My latest article, "NFC Tags ¨C An Inexpensive Smart Home Automation Application¡± is being published by the good folks at Residential Tech Today Magazine on their web site.

If you are interested in, for example:

  • Using your smart phone to open your garage overhead door by simply tapping the phone against the wood that frames the garage door
  • Using your smart phone to control outdoor lighting by simply tapping the phone against the arm of your favorite outdoor chair

Then NFC tags provide an easy, and inexpensive, way to accomplish this; and much more.

The article looks at what NFC tags are, how they can be used in a smart home, and how to integrate them into a number of different smart home platforms.? For Crestron programmers the article includes a link to a driver I've written that can be downloaded from my GitHub.

You can find the article here:?

For those interested in earlier articles that I've written, you can find those here:



Finally, for those that want to see even more content I've written about smart home technology you can find that here:



Thanks


Re: Cisco Room Os 10

 

I tried various different modules from the sx80 v1.4 to Cisco room devices 4.0.? At the end?of the day I used a combination of the SX80 v2.3.9 and some serial I/Os for certain xcommand functions we needed.
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We have 3 deployments with this combination and it has worked?well.


Re: Cisco Room Os 10

 

I tried various different modules from the sx80 v1.4 to Cisco room devices 4.0.? At the end?of the day I used a combination of the SX80 v2.3.9 and some serial I/Os for certain xcommand functions we needed.

We have 3 deployments with this combination and it has worked?well.


Simpl Windows SHUTS DOWN After Update

 

Hello ,?

I updated my PC with the latest Crestron software .?

After this I can't open any *.smw file at Simpl Windows?

The Simpl Windows program is booting and Shuts down suddenly before? ?the loading?Of Program View


Files *.umc and *.usp? are opened? and Simpl Windows and Simpl +?? is working fine

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I tried to reinstall Simpl windows but nothing.

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I attach screenshots of my software version?

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Thanks,

Ntiran


Cisco Room Os 10

 

Good morning,

I wanted to ask if anyone has worked with Cisco Room Kit Plus with Room Os 10 firmware.

Do you know if there is a valid module for this version of Cisco software?

Do you know if Meet can be used in the Crestron panel through the Cisco codec?

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Re: Managing/Processing volume

 

Hey, just a thought.?


you say -80.5 reads mute and +16.5 max on the panel display but coded should still give you the additional 2 steps to get you 99 increments. Would this not allow it to operate smoother just by adding them back into your programming??


Re: Managing/Processing volume

 

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Hi,

doesn?t answer your specific question, but we always prefer to present dB values to the client rather than just % values.

So i wouldn?t do the conversion and just present the dB value as it comes from the AVR ¨C sell it as a feature to the client: ¡°see, it?s exactly what it says on the AVR display¡±.

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Cheers,

Thorsten

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von ckangis
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. M?rz 2022 01:52
An: [email protected]
Betreff: [crestron] Managing/Processing volume

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Hi All,
I've been struggling (read 'above my pay grade'...Ha) to get volume control of an AVR (Yamaha AVR) working correctly? - more specifically getting the volume feedback to behave...
Here's the parameters that I'm working with
1. The AVRs return volume levels in strings from -80.5 to +16.5 where the two extremes only relate to the unit's panel display (-80.5 reads 'MUTE' and +16.5 reads 'MAX'). Basically the range needed are -80.0 to +16 in whole steps
2. you'll note that -80 to +16 is a convenient '97' steps!
3. my framework uses (within SMW) analog values from 0-65535 (0%-100%), which renders to the user interface a 0% - 100% display
4. We've been using an old serial to analog convert module that works 'fine'
5. Because generally we find that the Vol_FB from devices like AVRs are a bit sluggish, we loop the send volume back to the FB when ramping and then after 1s seed the AVR's volume level in to update the 'real' volume

The problem is that in certain parts of the range (seems like 55% and above), you'll ramp the display up and then, when the seed from the AVR comes in, the display will (usually) step down one step
- Ramp to 55%, seeds to 54%
- ramp to 72%, seeds to 71%
- Increment one step from 66% to 67%, and the display falls back to 66%

I understand that this is a scaling conversion issue, and if the AVR was giving me a typical 100 steps, I imagine that we wouldn't be discussing this!

Does anyone have ideas as to how to make something like this more reliable??


Re: Crestron Flex video output blanking

 

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Make sure you have the EDID dongles in place that come with the flex kits. I had this happen recently and the install guys hadn¡¯t put them in as per the ¡°do¡± guide

Tim Greenbank

Control Systems Engineer


On 30 Mar 2022, at 17:24, Bambam_101 <wiredhometechnologies@...> wrote:

?Just wondering if anyone has started coming across this?? Have been to multiple sites today with recent Flex installs with reports of the output to the display turning itself off and requiring a reboot.

Basically,? system works fine, both the TSW1070 and the display until it rests for a while and then it seems the HDMI output from the Flex Compute shuts itself off.? Resulting in the LCD display showing a "No HDMI cable connected" message. If i enter the Windows back end via the TSW, as soon as the windows desktop loads, the image returns.??

Have had 12 units today all doing the same thing.? Across 2 different clients.? Tried calling True Blue and got the usual response. "Never heard of that before.? Please send us the log files from all the units, schematics, serials, mac addresses etc etc etc.? ?
Hoping someone may have come across this recently and have some advice!?


Crestron Flex video output blanking

 

Just wondering if anyone has started coming across this?? Have been to multiple sites today with recent Flex installs with reports of the output to the display turning itself off and requiring a reboot.

Basically,? system works fine, both the TSW1070 and the display until it rests for a while and then it seems the HDMI output from the Flex Compute shuts itself off.? Resulting in the LCD display showing a "No HDMI cable connected" message. If i enter the Windows back end via the TSW, as soon as the windows desktop loads, the image returns.??

Have had 12 units today all doing the same thing.? Across 2 different clients.? Tried calling True Blue and got the usual response. "Never heard of that before.? Please send us the log files from all the units, schematics, serials, mac addresses etc etc etc.? ?
Hoping someone may have come across this recently and have some advice!?


Re: adagio ootbf smw

 

It is been a long time since I used the ootbf feature in the adagio -- probably over 15 years ago.? All the systems we did that started off doing ootbf where converted to SIMPL as the ootbf had too many limitations.

But to answer your question, I believe the ootbf was part of the firmware (at least in the AES) and in particular, I believe it was a separate firmware package for the front panel instead of the main processor firmware.? So I don't believe there is so call "base ootbf smw" that you can look at.? Instead, ootbf was based on having to do no programming via SIMPL or other Crestron tools.? It was all done from the front panel.? You would hold a certain combination of buttons on the front panel to get it into ootbf mode.? It was one of those ideas that you had to remain in the ootbf box in order to use it and in most cases that box was too small.? The great thing was you could program it in SIMPL too and get around those limitation. I believe that is how most people used it.

Don't know if that helps any.