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Re: TSW-1052 Subpage not clearing on Main Page
It sounds like your visibility join is high. What does debugger say?
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Re: C2N-CB OLD Style Having trouble making it dim of one button
Adonai Da Silva
My problem i that i have already started the lighting programming all in SIMPL windows. I haven't used the D3 program yet. On Friday, September 11, 2015 8:58 PM, "kgossen@... [Crestron]" wrote:
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This is incredibly easy to do in D3, select the button and assign it to be a toggle + Dim, done.? In SIMPL you're going to need to have more than just a toggle.?
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Re: TSW-1052 Subpage not clearing on Main Page
Adonai Da Silva
I already gave it a visibility join to that subpage and all the other subpages and I also made that invisible in the main page. It's also showing on my other touch panel tsw-752 when MC3 reboot or when the screen comes out of standby.
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Re: When to use a cross point
Commercial guy here, poking the bear! I use crosspoints... sometimes. It's a tool to use when appropriate. I tend to use crosspoints when a combination of digital and serial and/or analog signals are best grouped together. Also when I hate the fellow programmers that have to edit the code. J/K if a crosspoint system is commented and laid out properly, just like any program, it can be managed. It's easy to think big with crosspoints, which is why it's easy to conceptualize why the resi guys do it. A commercial example I used crosspoints in a situation where the client wanted full control of a 128 x 128 matrix switcher with the capability of defining and recalling presets as well as defining and recalling a rotation of sources on groups of displays. It made sense to me at the time to make a few frameworks of crosspoints that allowed the flexibility desired. Presets created a one-to-many relationship with display crosspoints; Rotation had a one-to-one relationship with source crosspoints, pointing the 'actively connected source' through to the 'preset group of display crosspoints' at a user-determined time interval. I also use it in small situations -- think of crosspoints like a crude 'class' of sorts in SIMPL in that it can encapsulate data into one symbol. Say, for example, an AV routing framework: serial strings for Source Name and Small Description, analog values for Matrix Switcher Input Number or Volume, and digital tags for when a source is In Use. All that can get encapsulated into and shared by one crosspoint ID. Parameters and details specific to a system are defined once. A great lot of what I use has been absorbed from concepts discussed in this group over the years. I read way back when in two-thousand-something to use a crosspoint for sources, and manage the source power by the crosspoint's IN_USE digital output. That's gold. UnderstandingCrosspoints pdf in the files section. More gold.? -Andrew |
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TSCW-730 Used only as touchpanel with a DMPS3
I have a customer who 'mis-ordered' a TSCW-730, which is a panel/processor all in one, and they intend to use it as a touchpanel only with a DMPS3-300.???
1) Should I use EISC in both units, and just have a basic program in the TSCW that passes the button presses to/from the EISC? 2) There is a "TSCW-730 Remote Ethernet Processing" device definition available in the Device Library.? If I place that in the ethernet slot of the DMPS at a given IP ID, can I then setup the TSCW as a slave and put an entry in its ip id table directing it to the ip id inside the DMPS? Which would work or be the recommended method? |
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Re: LG WEB OS IP Control
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHave you try send WOL magic packet to turn on tv? It is working on new series Sony, and Panasonic tvs. ? Regards ? From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 3:00 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: RES: [Crestron] Re: LG WEB OS IP Control ? ? Still not. |
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Re: When to use a cross point
From my years of programming experience, I can generalize when the use of crosspoints is useful.? If you do large scale residential projects, chances are, you use them, or have a need for them.? If you do commercial projects, you probably do not.
That may be over-simplistic, but I've been programming commercial for 15 years, and have never needed, or found crosspoints to be beneficial in all those jobs.? There may have been a handful of those projects that might have been borderline useful to use crosspoints, but not many.? However, I have done a few resi jobs here and there, and that is where doing the project without them would have been very difficult indeed. The reason I see it is this...? "Typical" resi projects have multiple panels controlling various rooms in the house, and often have roaming panels to be able to be walked around the house and control each room.? You have a many to many relationship between panel, zones, and devices.? However, in commercial projects, you have maybe 1 or 2 panels, that are usually dedicated to a certain space.? The spaces in commercial tend to be one large system (rather than many little systems like resi), that have lots more displays in them, but a common set of source devices.? You don't really need crosspoints, and most of the time I've seen commercial systems programmed using crosspoints, it was overkill, a pain to debug, and felt like the original programmer was trying to use a hammer to drive in a screw (square ped/round hole etc). I've done some large commercial jobs, but in most (almost all) cases, each room has it's own processor, is completely seperate from other rooms, and each have their own dedicated touch panels that don't roam around trying to control all the rooms in a building. For those saying (referring to commercial projects) if you don't use crosspoints, you have dozens or more buffers instead.? What are you talking about?? No.? No you don't.? Not unless you're trying to emulate crosspoints with buffers, but that is not necessary.? The only time you would need to use a bunch of buffers is if you were trying to use the same join #'s for all your devices (like crosspoints do), but if you don't do that, you don't need to buffer anything. -jason www.mpsav.com |
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Re: When to use a cross point
I have a system with 2 large rooms. ?23 displays in 1 room, 23 displays and a 16 panel video wall in another. ?8 cable tuners, 4 for the video wall and 4 for overhead sound through BSS 806 for overhead sound. ?All displays are fed video from a PCO headend, hence the tuners for audio and VW. ?Quite a bit more but that is the general gist of it. ?All IP controlled.
I'm fairly new to this, so I went the buffer route because I was limited on time and needed the ability to select any or all displays and power on/off, change channel etc. and couldn't wrap my head around the xpoint system to connect and send the applicable command to each display as demanded. Currently, if I select all displays and press the on button, all displays turn on in under a second.? I would love to use xpoints for expansion possibilities but I'm not sure on the performance of the needed tasks .? If I used a toggle (which enable the buffers I'm currently using), for connection to xpoints for the devices I want to change, will they connect via mutiple threads and operate the same way as the buffers? ? I've used xpoints before and see their benefit, this one has me stumped. I appreciate the help you peeps have afforded as I learn. ?You've been outstanding! ?Have a great weekend. ? |
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Re: When to use a cross point
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI have wondered why it's only an hour and half at the end of 301 class if it is so powerful. I would love to see a dedicated class, which I've asked for since 2012 The greatest thing I've gotten from the SW office was a technicians code showing multiple TP's to rooms & sources Trey On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:09 PM, eagrubbs@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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Re: When to use a cross point
As opposed to hitting F2 only to find the signal only goes to an ecross? I'd rather wade through buffers than wade through nothingness.
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Re: Panasonic AW-HE130
Maybe the Panasonics support HTTP 1.1 (to keep a connection open) but for some reason the Crestron module is using HTTP 1.0? Using WireShark to look at the connection details when using IE would probably be a good start. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 5:39 PM, bassman233@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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Re: When to use a cross point
There's nothing worse that taking over code, hitting F2 on a signal and having it trace to 20+ buffers and then realizing that the whole project is built that way. ?I know tracing cross point connects can sometimes be a little difficult, but nothing like having to trace through hundreds of buffers and the enable for each of those. ?
For small commercial systems, most of the time they are not necessary. ?For residential or large scale commercial, they are an absolute must for organization and future expansion. ? |
Trey Chamrad - Texas AVI