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Re: Make String Permanent in Simpl+

 

roll it into a module with an MSP in it . . .

From: colinhasted <colin_hasted@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2013 at 2:22 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] Make String Permanent in Simpl+

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Hi All,
I'm going mad in my old age, I'm sure I read once that there was a prefix or similar that could be used in Simpl+ so that when making a string_output it could be declared permanent as if you had hooked a Make String Permanent symbol on the output leg.

I am running a particular module over 200 instances and would rather like to declare the outputs permanent in code rather than tying MSP symbols to each output leg. I know it isn't going to save memory, but it'll sure save time!

As I said, it might not exist, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.... cannot find it for love nor money though.

I guess if it doesn't exist I could always add a refresh leg to re-propagate the information on demand (IE when selected with the crosspoint).

Any help or pointers much appreciated
Colin


Re: LG 4K 84LM9600

 

?So. Anyone know how to control this ? Its a google smart TV. Is there some common control protocol for Google TV's maybe ? The remote is incredibly stupid. Im not sure it even has IR..



---In Crestron@..., <public2@...> wrote:

Does anyone know what the protocol is, or knows of a module to control this TV via Network ?


Re: Make String Permanent in Simpl+

Heath Volmer
 

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The string will still vaporize in Simpl-land. ?Wrapper is the neatest solution - also allows you to put your signals in a more organized fashion than S+ will allow.


On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:06 AM, cfm@... wrote:

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You can declare global variables as NONVOLATILE, so they even survive program reboots - but still not the same thing as putting an MSP on the outputs.


? - Chip




---In Crestron@..., wrote:

Hi All,
I'm going mad in my old age, I'm sure I read once that there was a prefix or similar that could be used in Simpl+ so that when making a string_output it could be declared permanent as if you had hooked a Make String Permanent symbol on the output leg.

I am running a particular module over 200 instances and would rather like to declare the outputs permanent in code rather than tying MSP symbols to each output leg. I know it isn't going to save memory, but it'll sure save time!

As I said, it might not exist, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.... cannot find it for love nor money though.

I guess if it doesn't exist I could always add a refresh leg to re-propagate the information on demand (IE when selected with the crosspoint).

Any help or pointers much appreciated
Colin



Re: Reenable TSW FTP

Heath Volmer
 

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Why yes it is, and I swear I tried that with no luck... ?I've tried doing HELP FTP*, but perhaps that assumes that a given function actually has a help entry...

Thank you.


On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:18 PM, Ronny Smerud <ronny@...> wrote:

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Hi

Isn't it Ftpserver on ?

Br

Ronny


Den 14. nov. 2013 kl. 01:28 skrev Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>:

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I was messing around with the AUTH settings and evidently disabled the FTP server on a TSW. I've turned AUTH and SSL off, but I'm not sure what gets the regular FTP server going again. Does anyone know the command?

Heath




Re: Make String Permanent in Simpl+

 

You can declare global variables as NONVOLATILE, so they even survive program reboots - but still not the same thing as putting an MSP on the outputs.


? - Chip




---In Crestron@..., <colin_hasted@...> wrote:

Hi All,
I'm going mad in my old age, I'm sure I read once that there was a prefix or similar that could be used in Simpl+ so that when making a string_output it could be declared permanent as if you had hooked a Make String Permanent symbol on the output leg.

I am running a particular module over 200 instances and would rather like to declare the outputs permanent in code rather than tying MSP symbols to each output leg. I know it isn't going to save memory, but it'll sure save time!

As I said, it might not exist, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.... cannot find it for love nor money though.

I guess if it doesn't exist I could always add a refresh leg to re-propagate the information on demand (IE when selected with the crosspoint).

Any help or pointers much appreciated
Colin


Re: Make String Permanent in Simpl+

 

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Another thought is to wrap the S+ in a module where the MSP resides¡­.

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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of slip.cougan@...
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:03 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] RE: Make String Permanent in Simpl+

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Just a hunch but I think you may be confusing this with text append.

From the help:

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SIMPL+ Usage

For programmers who are writing a SIMPL+ module and want to implement the features of the Text Append symbol without using the symbol, output string can be modified as follows:

For Mode 1, add "\xFE\x01" to the beginning of the string.

For Mode 2, add "\xFE\x02" to the beginning of the string.

No modifications are needed for Mode 0.

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---In crestron@..., <crestronoob@...> wrote:

I'm not aware of any way to do this.

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You might be thinking of inputs? They are "permanent", ie a STRING_INPUT will always retain the value from the previous transition

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---In crestron@..., <colin_hasted@...> wrote:

Hi All,
I'm going mad in my old age, I'm sure I read once that there was a prefix or similar that could be used in Simpl+ so that when making a string_output it could be declared permanent as if you had hooked a Make String Permanent symbol on the output leg.

I am running a particular module over 200 instances and would rather like to declare the outputs permanent in code rather than tying MSP symbols to each output leg. I know it isn't going to save memory, but it'll sure save time!

As I said, it might not exist, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.... cannot find it for love nor money though.

I guess if it doesn't exist I could always add a refresh leg to re-propagate the information on demand (IE when selected with the crosspoint).

Any help or pointers much appreciated
Colin


Re: Residential Noob, Need help!

 

It is important to have rock solid LAN/WiFi system for this type of installation.

Actually, it will be the backbone of automation system. Reliable manageable switches, WiFi access points, combined into one logical system by controller, good router, main and backup Internet channel, and so on.

The main idea - plan and build small corporate-grade network, not home one.

Use entry and middle lever corporate equipment. By the way, SOHO Cisco equipment is not very expensive, but it is Cisco - very manageable, very reliable.



---In crestron@..., <etienne@...> wrote:

I've been doing high-end resi projects for about 13 years now and need to highlight one important thing I've learned ... listen to your client! Unfortunately resi is not corporate. It is personal, it constantly changes and you have to be on top of it during the sales, installation, commissioning and support phases (support means even 5 years later when somebody phones at 9pm on a Friday-night).


My advice, if you've never done resi, get somebody to help/support you and your company. Large resi projects can end any company if you don't know what you're doing. You'll keep going back. Working in high net-worth clients' personal space is a whole new ball game.


Keep it simple stupid...




---In crestron@..., <hvolmer@...> wrote:


On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:01 AM, jpride@... wrote:

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Hey all,


I'm a commercial (mostly) programmer whose overzealous boss has gotten him involved in a 35-40 million dollar residential project. I am in the process of compiling info, i.e. design questions, brochures, and general "wow" factor literature for a meeting with the potential client tomorrow. I have talked to Crestron's Residential Sales Reps and gotten some good insights from them, but i thought I would throw it out to you guys and gals.?

What are the pitfalls and perils that aren't generally considered when designing a huge residential system such as this one?

That's a long list that is hard to enumerate. ?I think one key is that your salesman/designer needs to be on top of lots of contractors who may not understand or care about their role in the A/V system - and you need to be on top of them. ?Does the electrician have any idea about lighting systems, or were they just planning on 6-gang light switches? ?Is the plumber or HVAC tech gonna freak when you bring in TSTATs? ?No different than commercial, except that I think large-scale commercial tends to be more structured. ?Many large residential jobs are done by small-time contractors who can't manage details.

Be prepared to be the first person to be blamed when something doesn't work (lighting, HVAC, etc.)

Make sure the installers know what a label is and buy them lots of them.

I was thinking about touting Rava intercom as a side benefit of TSW panels all over the house...good idea or bad??

Seems like a fine idea, and there are some really simple ways to build it if you have a lot of panels.

Whole home DM matrix, i.e. 64x64 possibly....bad idea?

Matrix is almost a given. ?You probably won't have 64 inputs. ?You probably won't have 16. ?So many "depends on" here. ?Local sources, central racks, combination of the above. ?Steer them towards as much central as possible.


What types of DSP do you guys normally use for large, zoned houses?

DSP? ?That's not residential-speak ;-). ?PAD8s or now Sonnex, A/V receivers (I use Denon typically), Crestron Procise, some Anthem.?


Anything you Resi-Pros can offer would help. (And dont worry, I'm not really going to be your competition in the near future, this is a friend of a friend, one off, type thing)

Scary, having an inexperienced dealer jump into something like this. ?Bring on a consultant. ?It's not rocket science, but then again neither is commercial or government work. ?I'd be fairly over my head trying to bid out a school or hotel.

Heath



Re: Make String Permanent in Simpl+

 

Just a hunch but I think you may be confusing this with text append.

From the help:


SIMPL+ Usage

For programmers who are writing a SIMPL+ module and want to implement the features of the Text Append symbol without using the symbol, output string can be modified as follows:

For Mode 1, add "\xFE\x01" to the beginning of the string.

For Mode 2, add "\xFE\x02" to the beginning of the string.

No modifications are needed for Mode 0.




---In crestron@..., <crestronoob@...> wrote:

I'm not aware of any way to do this.


You might be thinking of inputs? They are "permanent", ie a STRING_INPUT will always retain the value from the previous transition




---In crestron@..., <colin_hasted@...> wrote:

Hi All,
I'm going mad in my old age, I'm sure I read once that there was a prefix or similar that could be used in Simpl+ so that when making a string_output it could be declared permanent as if you had hooked a Make String Permanent symbol on the output leg.

I am running a particular module over 200 instances and would rather like to declare the outputs permanent in code rather than tying MSP symbols to each output leg. I know it isn't going to save memory, but it'll sure save time!

As I said, it might not exist, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.... cannot find it for love nor money though.

I guess if it doesn't exist I could always add a refresh leg to re-propagate the information on demand (IE when selected with the crosspoint).

Any help or pointers much appreciated
Colin


Help to program API to code

Germt van de Sande
 


Hello,
They ask me to program a module for an Video system by using there API.
I never had work with an API before and a i ?was wandering how that is working.
?
There are 2 API they sent me,
1??????????????????? JSON
2??????????????????? XML
Can someone help me starting to work with a API documents and tell me how to translate it into code.
Maybe it¡¯s very simple but I don¡¯t see how to start with it and use it into crestron.
Thanks
Germt


Re: Dish Receivers wake up

 

Firmware is available on the FTP server (4.001.1012)?



---In Crestron@..., <rogier@...> wrote:

Are you sure the baud rate etc are correct?

RS-232, auto-detect baud rate, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, XON/XOFF disabled, RTS/CTS disabled?



---In Crestron@..., <sombra_verde09@...> wrote:

Hi, I finally was able to get the MC2W from my friend to test the program, but when I connect to it, toolbox and Simpl Windows says that is connected but I don't get any info from it, and if I try to load the program from Simpl is saying that "the device doesn't support the required capabilities for this dialog to function" I was trying to download the firmware but can't find it anywhere, any suggestions??



---In crestron@..., <fueler1@...> wrote:

Why not tell the dish box to auto-tune to the channel he wants at 2:59am?

If you really want to do it with Crestron, use a Past symbol and make sure you have a clock driver in your program.

The mc2w has no Ethernet for web time sync, so the time can and will get out of sync. You will need to connect to the unit now and then to sync the time other your pc.

Sent from my pocket computer


Re: Dish Receivers wake up

 

Are you sure the baud rate etc are correct?

RS-232, auto-detect baud rate, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, XON/XOFF disabled, RTS/CTS disabled?



---In Crestron@..., <sombra_verde09@...> wrote:

Hi, I finally was able to get the MC2W from my friend to test the program, but when I connect to it, toolbox and Simpl Windows says that is connected but I don't get any info from it, and if I try to load the program from Simpl is saying that "the device doesn't support the required capabilities for this dialog to function" I was trying to download the firmware but can't find it anywhere, any suggestions??



---In crestron@..., <fueler1@...> wrote:

Why not tell the dish box to auto-tune to the channel he wants at 2:59am?

If you really want to do it with Crestron, use a Past symbol and make sure you have a clock driver in your program.

The mc2w has no Ethernet for web time sync, so the time can and will get out of sync. You will need to connect to the unit now and then to sync the time other your pc.

Sent from my pocket computer


Motoroala VIP 2250 ir

 

Have a project I'm working on that is going to require the ir for a Motorola VIP 22250. ?Anyone know where I can download this or any substitue that is a known substitute?


Thanks!


Re: OT - internet radio options

 

I'm waiting for the CEN-NSP1 to become available, very interested in the price for that one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYKpaE3UBpU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUFbR_2wt1M6ipg2inaaC_Lw?



---In Crestron@..., <marc@...> wrote:

I am fed up diagnosing issues with Squeezeboxes. One day BBC iPlayer works fine, the next it doesn¡¯t with various cryptic errors ("Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for¡­.¡±etc). Non WMA streams work, but one needs ones shot of BBC radio stations to kickstart the day.

I use it exclusively for internet radio so was wondering what you guys are installing for ¡°budget conscious¡± (read tight a$$ed) clients, that is in some way Crestron controllable. I am happy to source equipment in the US, so options don¡¯t have to be restricted to european availability.


Re: Make String Permanent in Simpl+

 

I'm not aware of any way to do this.


You might be thinking of inputs? They are "permanent", ie a STRING_INPUT will always retain the value from the previous transition




---In crestron@..., <colin_hasted@...> wrote:

Hi All,
I'm going mad in my old age, I'm sure I read once that there was a prefix or similar that could be used in Simpl+ so that when making a string_output it could be declared permanent as if you had hooked a Make String Permanent symbol on the output leg.

I am running a particular module over 200 instances and would rather like to declare the outputs permanent in code rather than tying MSP symbols to each output leg. I know it isn't going to save memory, but it'll sure save time!

As I said, it might not exist, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.... cannot find it for love nor money though.

I guess if it doesn't exist I could always add a refresh leg to re-propagate the information on demand (IE when selected with the crosspoint).

Any help or pointers much appreciated
Colin


Make String Permanent in Simpl+

 

Hi All,
I'm going mad in my old age, I'm sure I read once that there was a prefix or similar that could be used in Simpl+ so that when making a string_output it could be declared permanent as if you had hooked a Make String Permanent symbol on the output leg.

I am running a particular module over 200 instances and would rather like to declare the outputs permanent in code rather than tying MSP symbols to each output leg. I know it isn't going to save memory, but it'll sure save time!

As I said, it might not exist, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.... cannot find it for love nor money though.

I guess if it doesn't exist I could always add a refresh leg to re-propagate the information on demand (IE when selected with the crosspoint).

Any help or pointers much appreciated
Colin


OT - internet radio options

 

I am fed up diagnosing issues with Squeezeboxes. One day BBC iPlayer works fine, the next it doesn¡¯t with various cryptic errors ("Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for¡­.¡±etc). Non WMA streams work, but one needs ones shot of BBC radio stations to kickstart the day.

I use it exclusively for internet radio so was wondering what you guys are installing for ¡°budget conscious¡± (read tight a$$ed) clients, that is in some way Crestron controllable. I am happy to source equipment in the US, so options don¡¯t have to be restricted to european availability.


Re: Denon DN-F650R 232 module.

 

I too need the module for this device Denon DN-F650R ...

but i have a Manual .. dont have time to Go thru the commands.

?



---In Crestron@..., <andyhernandez2011@...> wrote:

Hey guys, was wondering if anybody has a module for this unit. Can't find one at the Crestron website or in the files section here, and my Crestron programming is not advanced enough to create my own at this point. Also I plan on programming the system in Crestron Studio if that makes a difference. I appreciate any help on this, Thanks.


Re: Reenable TSW FTP

Ronny Smerud
 

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Hi

Isn't it Ftpserver on ?

Br

Ronny


Den 14. nov. 2013 kl. 01:28 skrev Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>:

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I was messing around with the AUTH settings and evidently disabled the FTP server on a TSW. I've turned AUTH and SSL off, but I'm not sure what gets the regular FTP server going again. Does anyone know the command?

Heath


Re: Dish Receivers wake up

 

Hi, I finally was able to get the MC2W from my friend to test the program, but when I connect to it, toolbox and Simpl Windows says that is connected but I don't get any info from it, and if I try to load the program from Simpl is saying that "the device doesn't support the required capabilities for this dialog to function" I was trying to download the firmware but can't find it anywhere, any suggestions??



---In crestron@..., <fueler1@...> wrote:

Why not tell the dish box to auto-tune to the channel he wants at 2:59am?

If you really want to do it with Crestron, use a Past symbol and make sure you have a clock driver in your program.

The mc2w has no Ethernet for web time sync, so the time can and will get out of sync. You will need to connect to the unit now and then to sync the time other your pc.

Sent from my pocket computer


Modbus RS232/485

 

Hi Folks,

my first project with Modbus is on the way. In the files section there is a modification of the Crestron module, but it is not complete.
I read about problems with processor stability, any experiences? I use a AV2 with 32MB, FW 4.007.0004.

Thanks in advance

Crestronfreak55