Re: Touch Panel reporting XY co-ordinates
On a TSW, no, but on panels that support annotation you can set the video window to output like a standard windows mouse driver and you can glean coordinates from that.
I set up a TPS-12 to run through a Pro2 to a Boeckeler Pointmaker once and it might be the kind of thing you could work with.
The last time I checked, though, Core3UI/Smartgraphics still didn't support that kind of thing (although it has been a few months, I've been slack)
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--- In Crestron@..., "read_matt@..." <read_matt@...> wrote: Just wondering if any one has a thought on this. I have a video wall that I want to control the position of windows. Instead of using sliders I wanted to make it so you could control it on a TSW panel. Initially thought the switcher widget or the gesture widget could work somehow but 1)switcher widget allows the same inputs in multiple places 2) gesture control is simply a swipe up/down/left/right command
Next, I thought of somehow reading the XY position of the input on the panel and using that to move the position. But don't think this can be done.
Any ideas?
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Re: Touch Panel reporting XY co-ordinates
You used to be able to do this with a 2-D slider. With some tinkering maybe a gesture canvas could work. On 2013-05-15, at 9:50 PM, "read_matt@..." <read_matt@...> wrote: Just wondering if any one has a thought on this. I have a video wall that I want to control the position of windows. Instead of using sliders I wanted to make it so you could control it on a TSW panel. Initially thought the switcher widget or the gesture widget could work somehow but 1)switcher widget allows the same inputs in multiple places 2) gesture control is simply a swipe up/down/left/right command
Next, I thought of somehow reading the XY position of the input on the panel and using that to move the position. But don't think this can be done.
Any ideas?
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Touch Panel reporting XY co-ordinates
Just wondering if any one has a thought on this. I have a video wall that I want to control the position of windows. Instead of using sliders I wanted to make it so you could control it on a TSW panel. Initially thought the switcher widget or the gesture widget could work somehow but 1)switcher widget allows the same inputs in multiple places 2) gesture control is simply a swipe up/down/left/right command
Next, I thought of somehow reading the XY position of the input on the panel and using that to move the position. But don't think this can be done.
Any ideas?
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The last that I had heard was that M&K was defunct. But Ken Kreisel of M&K has started a new company.
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I just did a wireshark capture of an EISC between a CP3N and a QM-RMC. The QM-RMC had 48 defined inputs (1-32,1001-1016); half set to zero, half to one. The CP3N had 16 defined outputs (1-16).
I triggered an update request on the CP3N.
I captured 49 UDP packets each way . The first was the update request packet from the CP3N, followed immediately by an ack. The QM-RMC then sent 48 data packets, apparently waiting for an ack between.
Conclusion: All defined inputs are sent, regardless of value/state, regardless of outputs on the other side.
Packed EISC will reduce the packet count, but likely won't change the basic behavior.
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On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:17:57 -0000, "RobK" <fooguy89@...> wrote: When side A requests an update from side B, B sends a single "clear" followed by the non-zero data. If you have one signal defined at Join 1, and another at Join 4000 it would at most send 2 states.
--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:
If i understand: On the "genericly-named" remote end, where all of the signals are defined, an update request will cause a slew of data to flow out, back to the main. On the "main" end, where fewer signals are defined, the corresponding update-request will generate less data towards the remote end.
I guess the question is simplest as: Do the undefined signals get transmitted, or only the defined?
Heath
On May 15, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@...> wrote:
EISC don't know what is on the receiving end, they send based on their inputs whether the other end has a matching output or not.
So, network traffic and overhead.
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:35:50 -0600, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:
Experimenting with making a "generic" sort of bridge between two programs to break up the organization of a program, and to off-load some potentially heavy processing.
If, in the program broken away from the main program, I define an EISC with a ton of generic signals (dig1, dig 2... 600 of each flavor maybe) and in the main program only use the signals that are relevant, do I wind up with a mass of updating going on between programs or does it only update those signals that are defined on the sending end?
I could potentially have many of these EISCs, but only heavily-loaded in the remote program.
Heath
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Just curious, but did you guys alt-F12 before you loaded the program to the pro3. I don't know if it would matter, but it is worth a shot.
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--- In Crestron@..., "crestronthunder" <henrik9171@...> wrote: Anyone have a confirmed solution to this problem?
I have a very similar situation with a Program running perfectly on MC3, but now after installed on a Pro3 the processor reboots intermittently with the "HW Watchdog timeout" error (iPad mini's and iphone are part of this project also) Pro3 is running FW v1.006.0026 (Feb 06 2013), sounds too similar to be a coincidence and I'm just wondering what was done to fix the other reported cases
--- In Crestron@..., "Sean" <sound.scan@> wrote:
How did you swap/replace your control system in SIMPL? I recall on another message board a situation where someone had done a control system replace and was experiencing issues very similar to yours. The fix was to create a new program with the new control system and manual copy over all of the hardware and logic folders. I'll see if I can find a link to the original thread.
--- In Crestron@..., "xymox1357" <public2@> wrote:
Well everything ran perfectly without rebooting until I moved from a MC3 to the Pro3. Then without any changes to the code First gen iPads and the mini fall offline after a few days and then finally I get a HW Watchdog reboot. This cycle repeats.
On reboot everything works perfectly.
--- In Crestron@..., "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@> wrote:
I get the same HW Watchdog error in my cp3 that has no ipads in it, just a tsw-750 and tpmc-8x-ga. TB swears it's an issue with my code, but I have het to find the cause. All my module have never had in issue running on the MC3
--- In Crestron@..., "xymox1357" <public2@> wrote:
This just in:
System rebooted.. On its own..
From the error log "Notice: nk.exe # 20:06:51 3-10-2013 # HW Watchdog timeout"
So something is going on in the Pro3.
This is my second one. I RMA'ed one a few days ago because it went down face first and was not rebooting. After A while I got it back up and reloaded, but I decided to swap anyway.
Something seems like there is a real issue here.. And a HW Watchdog timeout is not trivial.
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Re: Not looking for IR codes, just need to know what they would be in rs232 protocol
Thanks Rafael. That site only has operation manuals which do not include serial commands.
thanks again.
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--- In Crestron@..., Rapha?l Thiffault <raphaelthiffault@...> wrote: Have you try
Www.docs.sony.com
To find your model and protocol.
{Paf} Le 14 mai 2013 20:32, "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@...> a ¨¦crit :
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New to this forum, or maybe a long time since my last post. I am working on one of my certification programs and have plasma display that is not listed in the Crestron DB. I managed to capture the IR commands from the remote using the Crestron IR learner, but I need to convert the commands from IR to rs232 since the cert instructions call for rs232 control instead of IR.
I entered the IR codes via the Tx signal to see if they work the way I thought they should be entered into a Serial I/O, but they aren't working. The power_cycle code is 0x010F, and I entered it into the Tx signal as \x00x010F\x03 and the plasma does not turn on.
I guess I am just missing how to enter the command into the serial I/O param. I tried "0x101F", but that doesn't do anything either.
I haven't tried connecting an IR bud to make sure they even work that way, but they seem to be the same as another model that is listed in the database.
Ah, I just saw the bit about Geoffrey Reynold's conversion program. I will try that and see how that works.
--- In Crestron@..., "davestaud" <DaveStaud@> wrote:
I think this belongs in the "Connecting Devices" section...
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Q: Where can I find Crestron IR codes for a <brand> <model> ? A: Discrete codes for most brands that support them, can usually be found in the Crestron Database -- search by Manufacturer, then look in the "Generic", "Multiple", or "UnClassified" folders.
Also, most devices will respond to IR drivers for similar models within the same brand -- ie., the driver for the Mitsubishi HSU-780 will probably work with the 580.
The Remote Central web site has IR codes for a large number of devices, in Philips Pronto format (see ). Pronto-style codes can be converted into Crestron format by either of two pieces of software: 1) Crestron's "Driver Editor And Learner for Windows" (aka DEAL) can import Pronto-style codes one at a time, or 2) group member Geoffrey Reynolds has written an excellent utility program that will convert an entire set of Pronto codes (embodied in a .ccf file) into a Crestron IR driver in one step (see for details)
Please don't ask the group for IR drivers until you've tried all of the above -- it's generally considered rude to ask others to do research that you should be doing for yourself.
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Re: Not looking for IR codes, just need to know what they would be in rs232 protocol
Sorry for the confusion Chip. I thought that IR codes could be easily converted to rs232 serial commands. I have now learned thanks to you and others that they are not they same.
I was able to find the serial commands in the Files section, and there was also a module that might be useful as well.
Thanks for the input.
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--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:
Your posts are very confusing. (Or it's just been a long day. Or both)
You mention that you want to use RS232 control, but then you talk about capturing IR codes and using an IR bud. Not the same thing.
RS232 control would be using the DB-9 connector on the display and connecting it to a COM port on your processor. No IR. No buds.
There are at least two PFM series RS232 modules already in the SIMPL windows library. There's a decent chance one of them will get you at least power control of the unit, so I'd suggest looking at the documentation for one of the modules and fashioning up an RS232 cable...
If none of those modules work, I'm afraid your best bet to find the RS-232 commands (did I mention these have nothing to do with IR?) would be to call Sony and see if you are lucky enough to find a tech that's willing to dig them out for you.
- Chip
--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:
New to this forum, or maybe a long time since my last post. I am working on one of my certification programs and have plasma display that is not listed in the Crestron DB. I managed to capture the IR commands from the remote using the Crestron IR learner, but I need to convert the commands from IR to rs232 since the cert instructions call for rs232 control instead of IR.
I entered the IR codes via the Tx signal to see if they work the way I thought they should be entered into a Serial I/O, but they aren't working. The power_cycle code is 0x010F, and I entered it into the Tx signal as \x00x010F\x03 and the plasma does not turn on.
I guess I am just missing how to enter the command into the serial I/O param. I tried "0x101F", but that doesn't do anything either.
I haven't tried connecting an IR bud to make sure they even work that way, but they seem to be the same as another model that is listed in the database.
Ah, I just saw the bit about Geoffrey Reynold's conversion program. I will try that and see how that works.
--- In Crestron@..., "davestaud" <DaveStaud@> wrote:
I think this belongs in the "Connecting Devices" section...
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Q: Where can I find Crestron IR codes for a <brand> <model> ? A: Discrete codes for most brands that support them, can usually be found in the Crestron Database -- search by Manufacturer, then look in the "Generic", "Multiple", or "UnClassified" folders.
Also, most devices will respond to IR drivers for similar models within the same brand -- ie., the driver for the Mitsubishi HSU-780 will probably work with the 580.
The Remote Central web site has IR codes for a large number of devices, in Philips Pronto format (see ). Pronto-style codes can be converted into Crestron format by either of two pieces of software: 1) Crestron's "Driver Editor And Learner for Windows" (aka DEAL) can import Pronto-style codes one at a time, or 2) group member Geoffrey Reynolds has written an excellent utility program that will convert an entire set of Pronto codes (embodied in a .ccf file) into a Crestron IR driver in one step (see for details)
Please don't ask the group for IR drivers until you've tried all of the above -- it's generally considered rude to ask others to do research that you should be doing for yourself.
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I've seen people recently with Bluetooth speakers, and I'm wondering - anyone have experience with devices that will take old-fashioned RCA L&R analog line-level audio and turn it into something I could pair up with a BT speaker? Might be a nice solution for me to get music into an area I don't have a handy electrical outlet in.
Thanks, - Chip
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Anyone have a confirmed solution to this problem?
I have a very similar situation with a Program running perfectly on MC3, but now after installed on a Pro3 the processor reboots intermittently with the "HW Watchdog timeout" error (iPad mini's and iphone are part of this project also) Pro3 is running FW v1.006.0026 (Feb 06 2013), sounds too similar to be a coincidence and I'm just wondering what was done to fix the other reported cases
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--- In Crestron@..., "Sean" <sound.scan@...> wrote: How did you swap/replace your control system in SIMPL? I recall on another message board a situation where someone had done a control system replace and was experiencing issues very similar to yours. The fix was to create a new program with the new control system and manual copy over all of the hardware and logic folders. I'll see if I can find a link to the original thread.
--- In Crestron@..., "xymox1357" <public2@> wrote:
Well everything ran perfectly without rebooting until I moved from a MC3 to the Pro3. Then without any changes to the code First gen iPads and the mini fall offline after a few days and then finally I get a HW Watchdog reboot. This cycle repeats.
On reboot everything works perfectly.
--- In Crestron@..., "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@> wrote:
I get the same HW Watchdog error in my cp3 that has no ipads in it, just a tsw-750 and tpmc-8x-ga. TB swears it's an issue with my code, but I have het to find the cause. All my module have never had in issue running on the MC3
--- In Crestron@..., "xymox1357" <public2@> wrote:
This just in:
System rebooted.. On its own..
From the error log "Notice: nk.exe # 20:06:51 3-10-2013 # HW Watchdog timeout"
So something is going on in the Pro3.
This is my second one. I RMA'ed one a few days ago because it went down face first and was not rebooting. After A while I got it back up and reloaded, but I decided to swap anyway.
Something seems like there is a real issue here.. And a HW Watchdog timeout is not trivial.
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Re: SONY 4K XBR 84X900 series
Did you turn the TV on first before trying to serial control? Standby mode must be changed to allow for the power on command to work, and the last time I did a sony tv I had to go find it on the web because it was not included in the Crestron module. These may still be good, minus the special commands _____ From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of fritzwwthomas Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:27 AM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: SONY 4K XBR 84X900 series I attempted to use the latest Crestron module for the tv control and it didn't work. I haven't had time to check the documents for pinouts but I used the straight through with and without the null adapter without success. I didn't find any settings in the menu for 232 control. It might possibly be different after all. The IR input works with existing IR codes. --- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kris" <kris.k@...> wrote: Good old Sony kept the codes the same for ir, I would assume any serial
connection would be the same as well. --- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"steex_777" <steex@> wrote: Hi guys,
Just landed a nice programming job... the only problem ...
i have to integrate a sony 4K Tv, and i can't find any doc of the
protocol... since the tv has some proprietary functions, i was looking for some kind of a sony document with what is what... and what's it doing... I'll get the tv on the jobsite and i wanted to prepare my modules before
hand... If anyone is a sony dealer and have some info on this subject, it'll be
greatly appreciated...
Thank you,
Stephane,
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When side A requests an update from side B, B sends a single "clear" followed by the non-zero data. If you have one signal defined at Join 1, and another at Join 4000 it would at most send 2 states.
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--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote: If i understand: On the "genericly-named" remote end, where all of the signals are defined, an update request will cause a slew of data to flow out, back to the main. On the "main" end, where fewer signals are defined, the corresponding update-request will generate less data towards the remote end.
I guess the question is simplest as: Do the undefined signals get transmitted, or only the defined?
Heath
On May 15, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@...> wrote:
EISC don't know what is on the receiving end, they send based on their inputs whether the other end has a matching output or not.
So, network traffic and overhead.
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:35:50 -0600, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:
Experimenting with making a "generic" sort of bridge between two programs to break up the organization of a program, and to off-load some potentially heavy processing.
If, in the program broken away from the main program, I define an EISC with a ton of generic signals (dig1, dig 2... 600 of each flavor maybe) and in the main program only use the signals that are relevant, do I wind up with a mass of updating going on between programs or does it only update those signals that are defined on the sending end?
I could potentially have many of these EISCs, but only heavily-loaded in the remote program.
Heath
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Tell the VTP project not to scale. On 2013-05-15, at 10:00 AM, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote: I have a 1050 on the desk. Is there a way to load the 750 project onto it without it scaling it to fit the screen? I'd like to see how things look closer to actual intended size. Xpanel on my monitor is too small.
Thanks, Heath
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The switches I've had trouble with are Dell 28XX series in unmanaged mode.
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--- In Crestron@..., Jon Spackman <fueler1@...> wrote: I dont have a fix for you, but in my home i have my MC3 running latest firmware ( was also fine with .05.15 as well). And its eisc to a pro2 running 4.7.5 been that way for like a year with no issues. I was running them through a d-link green 24port unmanaged gigabit switch, and recently changed them to a HP 16 port managed gigabit switch. Still humming along.
What switch are you using? Jon
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--- In Crestron@..., Paul Cunningham <paul.cunningham@...> wrote: I'm looking for a non-Crestron radio tuner that is controllable with feedback via RS-232 or IP, and offers a standard amount of presets. If it has Sirius/XM capability that's great too but not essential. I've used these models but they've all been or about to be discontinued: Integra TUN-3.7, Parasound zTuner, Xantech XT1.
The ADA Quadritune looks like a [pricey] winner, but I am open to suggestions both residential and commercial alike.
Thanks PC
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Hi everyone,
I have a client with an old CAVS JB-199 Premier Karaoke player that hates the process needed to get new song files onto the unit ( USB, CD, or clunky software provided by the manufacturer ).
Does anyone have a recommendation or know of a company that may have some more modern features like the ability to download songs from an onscreen interface?
Any advice is appreciated.
-andy
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If i understand: On the "genericly-named" remote end, where all of the signals are defined, an update request will cause a slew of data to flow out, back to the main. On the "main" end, where fewer signals are defined, the corresponding update-request will generate less data towards the remote end. I guess the question is simplest as: Do the undefined signals get transmitted, or only the defined? Heath On May 15, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@...> wrote: EISC don't know what is on the receiving end, they send based on their inputs whether the other end has a matching output or not.
So, network traffic and overhead.
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:35:50 -0600, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:
Experimenting with making a "generic" sort of bridge between two programs to break up the organization of a program, and to off-load some potentially heavy processing.
If, in the program broken away from the main program, I define an EISC with a ton of generic signals (dig1, dig 2... 600 of each flavor maybe) and in the main program only use the signals that are relevant, do I wind up with a mass of updating going on between programs or does it only update those signals that are defined on the sending end?
I could potentially have many of these EISCs, but only heavily-loaded in the remote program.
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EISC don't know what is on the receiving end, they send based on their inputs whether the other end has a matching output or not. So, network traffic and overhead. On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:35:50 -0600, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote: Experimenting with making a "generic" sort of bridge between two programs to break up the organization of a program, and to off-load some potentially heavy processing.
If, in the program broken away from the main program, I define an EISC with a ton of generic signals (dig1, dig 2... 600 of each flavor maybe) and in the main program only use the signals that are relevant, do I wind up with a mass of updating going on between programs or does it only update those signals that are defined on the sending end?
I could potentially have many of these EISCs, but only heavily-loaded in the remote program.
Heath
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It sounds like you have two (or more) physical processors in your scenario, but I'm curious if the answer also applies to EISCs between program slots in a 3-series.
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--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote: Experimenting with making a "generic" sort of bridge between two programs to break up the organization of a program, and to off-load some potentially heavy processing.
If, in the program broken away from the main program, I define an EISC with a ton of generic signals (dig1, dig 2... 600 of each flavor maybe) and in the main program only use the signals that are relevant, do I wind up with a mass of updating going on between programs or does it only update those signals that are defined on the sending end?
I could potentially have many of these EISCs, but only heavily-loaded in the remote program.
Heath
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I'm trying to contact sales at M&K. Their website ( ) lists *M&K Sound USA at *(855) 657-6863 The guy that answers that phone says he left M&K in December. Does anyone have a phone number for a US-based M&K Sales rep?
Chris
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