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Re: Win XP support

 

I don't know that I've heard an "official" answer -- and in all likelihood it will continue to work even after support is ended -- but unless they've changed the requirements for Studio are W7 64-bit so while current tools are XP OK, the new tools -- if they're ever ready for prime time -- will not be supported on XP.

That said, I'm running XP on my work desktop (and personal laptop and personal desktop) & W7 Pro on my work laptop -- the work laptop is only slightly newer than the work desktop and it feels so much faster and more usable than the desktop. [and I find myself trying to do the WinKey+Left and WinKey+Right shortcuts on XP far too often] -- so it might be worth digging into your configuration and looking or any differences that may be contributing to your "slowness"

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of xymox1357
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:34 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Win XP support

Is there any official Crestron statement on how much longer it will support XP ?

I want to know when some Crestron tool will not work on XP.

I prefer XP over Win 7. I have both installed on 2 separate SSD's on my laptop and XP is just faster for everything i do. Im thinking about buying a Win XP Pro 64 full install disc before they go away and I want to determine how much longer I will be able to use XP with Crestron.



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Masterinstaller in Windows 8

Marc Nield
 

Is anyone having problems running Masterinstaller in Windows 8? For me it simply crashes (the usual "Crestron Masterinstaller has stopped working ¡­¡­ Check online for a solution blah blah) as soon as I try to load it and even when i try to reinstall, the installer crashes.

It was working, it is how I installed all the other programs, but no longer and I am mystified.

Any thoughts?


Re: Win XP support

 

I tried going the WinXP 64-bit route. I couldn't find drivers for most of
my hardware.

Just a heads up to find the drivers BEFORE you reboot with the install disc.

Chris
On May 11, 2013 12:34 AM, "xymox1357" <public2@...> wrote:

**


Is there any official Crestron statement on how much longer it will
support XP ?

I want to know when some Crestron tool will not work on XP.

I prefer XP over Win 7. I have both installed on 2 separate SSD's on my
laptop and XP is just faster for everything i do. Im thinking about buying
a Win XP Pro 64 full install disc before they go away and I want to
determine how much longer I will be able to use XP with Crestron.



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Re: Trying to parse RS232

 

Here's a snippet of some code that will do what you want. The problem you were having is that you thought that &#92;x was actually part of the character string you were receiving from the device when actually that's just debugger adding &#92;x to signify an unprintable ascii character. This leaves out any searching for the correct string etc.

MAKESTRING(temp$, "%02X%02X", BYTE(rx$,3), BYTE(rx$,2));
LAMP = HEXTOI(temp$);

--- In Crestron@..., "madbanzai88" <danielteed@...> wrote:

Thanks for the replies, basically this is how a Hitachi projector returns its lamp hours, I know the lamp has currently done 974 hours.
Which in HEX is 3CE, so I want to strip out everything else and pass out 3CE to another module to convert the hex to decimal to get 974 (or whatever the hours our).

Matt you said I'm having issues because I'm starting my mid after the length of the string, how can I correct this?

--- In Crestron@..., "madbanzai88" <danielteed@> wrote:

Hi All,

I would really appreciate some help, as I can't see what I'm doing wrong.

I've got an RS232 command "&#92;x1D&#92;xCE&#92;x03" that I want to output as 03CE.

Here's what I have so far:

if (Find("&#92;x1D", FromDevice$))
{
Stored$ = FromDevice$;
Trash$ = remove("&#92;x1D", Stored$); // Stored$ = &#92;xCE&#92;x03
string1 = mid(Stored$,3,3);

output$ = string1;
}
I've done this to test, to see if I could get the middle of Stored$.
So I would expect output$ to be "E&#92;", but its coming out empty. What am I doing wrong?


Re: Win XP support

 


Re: Win XP support

 

Even Crestron FAQ on this is confuzing. They state that when a OS is no longer supported Crestron will no longer support it. They then have a link to Microsoft showing "unsupported" OS' which says in LARGE print that Win XP support ends on Apr 8 2014.. Crestron then goes on to say that Win XP and Vista are not supported which contradicts what it says in the same paragraph.

I want to know when Simpl, VTPro, Toolbox and its tools will no longer work with XP. I want to know when it will simply not work.


Re: Win XP support

 

You know what would be really cool. If Crestron supported some version of *nix. Thats a class of stunningly stable OS'. But that will never happen.

While I hate Apple, you Applers should be using XP for your VM as it will produce a faster more stable environment.

I would be happy with Win 7 if it was not quite noticeably slower then XP. Even simple web browsing using the same browser, on the same hardware using the same SSD model is quite a bit less responsive using Win 7. Of course win 8 is just incredibly stupid and pointless, even if its the new Windows Blue.

I love XP. It will be sad to be forced to use 7.


Win XP support

 

Is there any official Crestron statement on how much longer it will support XP ?

I want to know when some Crestron tool will not work on XP.

I prefer XP over Win 7. I have both installed on 2 separate SSD's on my laptop and XP is just faster for everything i do. Im thinking about buying a Win XP Pro 64 full install disc before they go away and I want to determine how much longer I will be able to use XP with Crestron.


Re: Activity Detection

Chip
 

If there isn't a device extender for it, your only choice is to have the panel on Ethernet, open a TCP/IP client connection to it and send the command that way...

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., "Kol Johnson" <kol.mstc@...> wrote:

can we check and turn that off from within simpl? It would be nice to add
that so if a panel got replaced the program would turn that off. Then I
could remove the PAGEJOINXMIT sticker from the top of my laptop screen ;)


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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Gregg M
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:19 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Activity Detection




It was the Page Join Transmit.....always the little things

Thanks

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

And on that note, if you don't need the page join feedback you can turn
off Page Join Feedback Transmission (without connecting to a panel
PAGEJOINXMIT ?) -- I'd say that's certainly not helping because the
processor sees it as inbound data from the panel and thus "activity"

Lincoln

--
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Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Services Provider


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Jay Basen
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Activity Detection

I expect this may be due to page joins transmitting back from the touch
panel to the processor.

Hope this helps

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@>
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:23:58 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Activity Detection





So I have a small piece of code running in my MC3 that basically says if
my TPS-4L Activity Detection goes Low Set the hard button Backlight to Low
and Jump to Page X. From my understanding Activity Detection is based on
anything from the touch panel to the processor, not the other way around.
But in my case here, when the processor triggers the page flip, it also
registers that as activity, thus trigger the backlights to go high and the
timer to restart.

Am I incorrect in my assumption or am I just plain doing something wrong.





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Re: Activity Detection

 

can we check and turn that off from within simpl? It would be nice to add
that so if a panel got replaced the program would turn that off. Then I
could remove the PAGEJOINXMIT sticker from the top of my laptop screen ;)


_____

From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Gregg M
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:19 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Activity Detection




It was the Page Join Transmit.....always the little things

Thanks

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

And on that note, if you don't need the page join feedback you can turn
off Page Join Feedback Transmission (without connecting to a panel
PAGEJOINXMIT ?) -- I'd say that's certainly not helping because the
processor sees it as inbound data from the panel and thus "activity"

Lincoln

--
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Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Services Provider


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Jay Basen
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Activity Detection

I expect this may be due to page joins transmitting back from the touch
panel to the processor.

Hope this helps

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@...>
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:23:58 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Activity Detection





So I have a small piece of code running in my MC3 that basically says if
my TPS-4L Activity Detection goes Low Set the hard button Backlight to Low
and Jump to Page X. From my understanding Activity Detection is based on
anything from the touch panel to the processor, not the other way around.
But in my case here, when the processor triggers the page flip, it also
registers that as activity, thus trigger the backlights to go high and the
timer to restart.

Am I incorrect in my assumption or am I just plain doing something wrong.









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Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

 

Did I f***

I started to get pretty depressed and was wasting a lot of time on it...

I would be pleased to hear if someone else managed to get it working.

Do you have the same model as this? What module are you using?

--- In Crestron@..., sebastian marszalek <s.marszalek11@...> wrote:

Did you get it to work?

I'm having the same issue

--
Sebastian Marszalek


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Re: CHV-TSTAT force "extended" run times?

 

If I recall correctly, there are heating and cooling 'anticipators' in the setup screen on the tstat. Sounds like the cooling one may be set a bit too aggressively.

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

So my house has started running "cool" cycles for the year and I'm noticing that the cycle times seem much shorter and more frequently than prior years and actually if I look at the temps the temp is 1-2 degrees above the setpoint within a few seconds of the cool cycle ending. (I can't say I've ever noticed that before - but cycle times haven't bothered me before either)

The TSTAT is admittedly not in a great place -- it's where the HVAC contractor/prior owner put the old school Honeywell stat - but since all of the other walls on this floor are either exterior, a common wall with my next door neighbor, or have a fireplace/plasma on them I can't really do much better. (Also: Whomever designed the HVAC system was, IMO, smoking crack - there's only one return in the house and it's on the first floor of a 3-story townhome)

Is there any way to force the TSTAT to make the cool call longer / reduce the number of cycles? I'd much rather a longer cool cycle and have it overshoot the setpoint by a degree or five than have it firing every 10 minutes or so.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree in the first place?

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider






CHV-TSTAT force "extended" run times?

 

So my house has started running "cool" cycles for the year and I'm noticing that the cycle times seem much shorter and more frequently than prior years and actually if I look at the temps the temp is 1-2 degrees above the setpoint within a few seconds of the cool cycle ending. (I can't say I've ever noticed that before - but cycle times haven't bothered me before either)

The TSTAT is admittedly not in a great place -- it's where the HVAC contractor/prior owner put the old school Honeywell stat - but since all of the other walls on this floor are either exterior, a common wall with my next door neighbor, or have a fireplace/plasma on them I can't really do much better. (Also: Whomever designed the HVAC system was, IMO, smoking crack - there's only one return in the house and it's on the first floor of a 3-story townhome)

Is there any way to force the TSTAT to make the cool call longer / reduce the number of cycles? I'd much rather a longer cool cycle and have it overshoot the setpoint by a degree or five than have it firing every 10 minutes or so.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree in the first place?

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider


Re: TV One 1T-SX-644 HDMI Switcher

 

FYI. One thing that got me on my last tvone job is that the IP had been set to "on" and that killed the com port. I think if it set to "auto" or "off" the com port works without issue.

--- In Crestron@..., "jbudz1977" <jbudz1977@...> wrote:

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

If it's like any of the other TVOne horribleness, pressing buttons on the unit itself should generate strings that appear coming in to your com port. Other dreck I've worked with from these folks (IIRC) have been 57k 8N1, just pins 2, 3 & 5.

- Chip
This ^^^ is the super Chip tip of the day!!! I was working with a 1T-C2-750 and couldn't get the strings right. Just push the button you want to push, take the string it spits out, change the beginning F44 to a F04 and put a ?? in the checksum and you are good!


Re: S+ Parsing

Eric Williams
 

Can anyone recommend a thread or example s plus module that shows API XML polling and parsing. Few web servers I want to make modules for that use http requests and return XML.

Sent from my pocket robot!

-----Original Message-----
From: "Chip" <cfm@...>
Sent: ?5/?9/?2013 10:53 PM
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: S+ Parsing



No documentation outside of what's here on the forum, but there's also not a lot to it.

WHILE(1)

Says, take the code enclosed in the following curly braces and run it OVER AND OVER AGAIN - FOREVERRRRRRRR!

In most circumstances that classifies as A Very Bad Thing (tm). But if you include code inside the curly braces that returns time to the OS and the host SIMPL program, you're good. As luck would have, it:

GATHER(delimiter,src_string)

Says STOP right there, and keep monitoring "src_string". Do not pass GO, do not collect $200 UNTIL you see the specified "delimiter" appear in src_string. When you do, remove everything from the front of src_sting up to the first occurrence of delimiter, and put it in the variable I specify. Then go back to monitoring "src_string".

The great thing about GATHER is that as soon as it evaluates src_string and doesn't find delimiter, it returns control to the processor. The OS lets GATHER know when (if ever) delimiter arrives, and tells it go resume business.

The big trick is in your parsing code. You need to make sure you evaluate what GATHER returns to you as quickly as possible and let the code return to the GATHER. This is an exercise left to the reader, as how to parse everything depends entirely on the data you're expecting.

In theory, the only way I know of for your BUFFER_INPUT to overrun is if lots of data comes in that never contains the delimiter, or if your processor is SO bogged down otherwise that the OS can't get your S+ code fired back up to run the parsing code.

(Oddly enough, I have random instances of this happening at a job site right now. REALLY frustrating)

That said, I'm not sure I'd use this approach for JSON data, considering how sucky it's structured. Maybe there's a good way of doing it - I just haven't considered it...

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., "redquartznow" <redquartznq@...> wrote:

Hello

I would like to have a clear definition of the hows and why's of

Main()
{
While (1)
{
Gather ();
Parse
}}

From my searching on this group I have found many tidbits of information
that make this seem to be an attractive solution to chatty devices. However every time I have used it (only on a project that sends back LARGE amounts of json data i.e. tv program guide for a week) i just seem to get buffer overruns.

Does anyone have a link to somewhere this has been explained in detail before?

Cheers,
Kurt


Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

cyberbri24
 

My model is actually the UN65D8000X but I would hope input would be the same, not?

--- In Crestron@..., "cyberbri24" <cyberbri24@...> wrote:

The generic CEC mod does not switch inputs on the Samsung. I really need it to do that. I was told it needs to defualt to HDMI input as people keep playing the damn input buttons so when they next crew operates the system the input on the display isnt correct. I really was trying to avoid using an IR emitter since I confirmed power on/off using the CEC control. Any ideas would be welcome.

Thanks,
cyberbri

--- In Crestron@..., "Kol Johnson" <kol.mstc@> wrote:

not at all. I expect that the thing to do is to embrace CEC. There is a
device I just learned about that is basically an IP/serial to CEC converter.
Probably a good thing.

<>
HdmiCecUsb.html


don't know how well it works, but it seems that CEC is probably going to be
the only reliable, non-ir, control moving forward.


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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of grumpy_cake
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 2:42 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link




Is it bad of me to say that I am pleased to hear that I am not the only one
smashing my face into a wall?

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kol
Johnson" <kol.mstc@> wrote:

I have just wasted over an hour or so trying everything I can find on a
UN19D4003 with the same results. Different protocols, different baud
115200
down to 4800, no luck with any of them. I can see a response from the TV
in viewport but nothing I would expect, and it is the same response
regardless of the character sent. Sorry I cannot help.


_____

From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of grumpy_cake
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:37 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link




I see it go out in debugger, the TV does nothing, and Rx$ is still silent.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kol
Johnson" <kol.mstc@> wrote:

this is power toggle, make sure the TV is on, send it right out
Samsung_TX$
in debugger
"&#92;x08&#92;x22&#92;x00&#92;x00&#92;x00&#92;x00&#92;xD6"


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From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of grumpy_cake
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:11 AM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link




At the moment I am using the program that is in the folder with the
module
from:


ed_partner_modules/default.asp?manufacturer_id=134

samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_demo

I've changed nothing so would expect it to be set up correctly.

I can send commands using Toolbox but nothing happens and I get no
feedback
from the com port.

The module offers lots of sends and feedback.

Maybe I should try the UN55ES7500 instead.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"cyberbri24" <cyberbri24@> wrote:

Are you just using the generic CEC mod? I just programmed a UN65Dxxxx
and
the Exlink didn;t offer any menu options to turn on so I am only using
the
Power on and off commands which works only.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"grumpy_cake" <crestron@> wrote:

I've gone back to square 1 here to try and get this working.

I've got rid of my program and am just using the one supplied with
the
module.

I've uploaded it to my QM-RMC. (Was using an AV2)

I made the cable myself, pins 2,3,5 -> T,R,S tested it with a mm
several
times to be sure.

I've also tried changing the baud rate to 115200 as previously
suggested. It's now back on 9600.

I think the key thing here is that I am getting absolutely nothing
coming into SIMPL Debugger on the Rx$ of the com port that the Ex-Link
is
connected to.

The TV should be spurting something out regardless of what I am
sending
it no?



--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"LENREX" <lenrex@> wrote:

If you downloaded the UN55ES8000 module from the website. It's a
straight through cable.

Did you load BOTH the Hardware & Logic modules into your program?

Did you make your own cable, or use a Samsung cable?

I used the UN55ES8000 module on a 46" with a Samsung cable plugged
straight into a MC3 and it worked perfectly. ...wasn't a long run.

--- In Crestron@...
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"grumpy_cake" <crestron@> wrote:

Thanks,

But does this actually apply to me? The pdf regarding the module
I
am using has no mention of injecting power...

I am connecting directly from an AV2 to the EX-Link port.

Have I missed something here? When others connect Ex-Link do you
not
connect directly?



--- In Crestron@...
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
, "javimanga" <javimanga@> wrote:




Hi!

Check this info about ex-link

rs

Specially this!!!:

"As the TV uses 3.3V TTL levels, the serial input/output has
to
be
converted to/from TTL levels to RS232 levels (~10-15V). Thus a level
shifter
is needed. But most computers today, doesn't have an RS232 port, so you
also
need a USB-to-RS232 serial adapter (cable). Thus its a definite
advantage
to
buy a pre-fabricated USB-to-serial converter using 3.3 Volt TTL levels
on
the serial side. Common one to look for are based on the PL2303 and FTDI
chips.
WARNING! RS232 levels are up to 15V, which can cause seriously
damage at your TV!"

Regards,
Javier VM

--- In Crestron@...
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "grumpy_cake" <crestron@> wrote:

Hi,

I hope someone can have some patience and spoon feed me
through
this as I have sat here for hours and have got nowhere. I am guessing a
bit
so please let me know if I am doing something stupid.

Firstly this may all be down to me using a module that may
not
work as I can't find my TV.

I have a: UE55ES7000
Closest I can find is the UN55ES8000

I've made up a cable for EX-LINK control using the diagram
in
the module pdf

(integrated_partner_modules/help_files/959/samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_help.pdf)

Tested cable with multi-meter, seems fine.

I have set the value of the RS232 mode to Debug.

Tried a basic test with the module set up like this:



I'm getting nothing in debugger on Samsung_Rx$ and the TV
responds to nothing.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.






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Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

cyberbri24
 

The generic CEC mod does not switch inputs on the Samsung. I really need it to do that. I was told it needs to defualt to HDMI input as people keep playing the damn input buttons so when they next crew operates the system the input on the display isnt correct. I really was trying to avoid using an IR emitter since I confirmed power on/off using the CEC control. Any ideas would be welcome.

Thanks,
cyberbri

--- In Crestron@..., "Kol Johnson" <kol.mstc@...> wrote:

not at all. I expect that the thing to do is to embrace CEC. There is a
device I just learned about that is basically an IP/serial to CEC converter.
Probably a good thing.

<>
HdmiCecUsb.html


don't know how well it works, but it seems that CEC is probably going to be
the only reliable, non-ir, control moving forward.


_____

From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of grumpy_cake
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 2:42 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link




Is it bad of me to say that I am pleased to hear that I am not the only one
smashing my face into a wall?

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kol
Johnson" <kol.mstc@> wrote:

I have just wasted over an hour or so trying everything I can find on a
UN19D4003 with the same results. Different protocols, different baud
115200
down to 4800, no luck with any of them. I can see a response from the TV
in viewport but nothing I would expect, and it is the same response
regardless of the character sent. Sorry I cannot help.


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From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of grumpy_cake
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:37 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link




I see it go out in debugger, the TV does nothing, and Rx$ is still silent.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kol
Johnson" <kol.mstc@> wrote:

this is power toggle, make sure the TV is on, send it right out
Samsung_TX$
in debugger
"&#92;x08&#92;x22&#92;x00&#92;x00&#92;x00&#92;x00&#92;xD6"


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From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of grumpy_cake
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:11 AM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link




At the moment I am using the program that is in the folder with the
module
from:


ed_partner_modules/default.asp?manufacturer_id=134

samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_demo

I've changed nothing so would expect it to be set up correctly.

I can send commands using Toolbox but nothing happens and I get no
feedback
from the com port.

The module offers lots of sends and feedback.

Maybe I should try the UN55ES7500 instead.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"cyberbri24" <cyberbri24@> wrote:

Are you just using the generic CEC mod? I just programmed a UN65Dxxxx
and
the Exlink didn;t offer any menu options to turn on so I am only using
the
Power on and off commands which works only.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"grumpy_cake" <crestron@> wrote:

I've gone back to square 1 here to try and get this working.

I've got rid of my program and am just using the one supplied with
the
module.

I've uploaded it to my QM-RMC. (Was using an AV2)

I made the cable myself, pins 2,3,5 -> T,R,S tested it with a mm
several
times to be sure.

I've also tried changing the baud rate to 115200 as previously
suggested. It's now back on 9600.

I think the key thing here is that I am getting absolutely nothing
coming into SIMPL Debugger on the Rx$ of the com port that the Ex-Link
is
connected to.

The TV should be spurting something out regardless of what I am
sending
it no?



--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"LENREX" <lenrex@> wrote:

If you downloaded the UN55ES8000 module from the website. It's a
straight through cable.

Did you load BOTH the Hardware & Logic modules into your program?

Did you make your own cable, or use a Samsung cable?

I used the UN55ES8000 module on a 46" with a Samsung cable plugged
straight into a MC3 and it worked perfectly. ...wasn't a long run.

--- In Crestron@...
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"grumpy_cake" <crestron@> wrote:

Thanks,

But does this actually apply to me? The pdf regarding the module
I
am using has no mention of injecting power...

I am connecting directly from an AV2 to the EX-Link port.

Have I missed something here? When others connect Ex-Link do you
not
connect directly?



--- In Crestron@...
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
, "javimanga" <javimanga@> wrote:




Hi!

Check this info about ex-link

rs

Specially this!!!:

"As the TV uses 3.3V TTL levels, the serial input/output has
to
be
converted to/from TTL levels to RS232 levels (~10-15V). Thus a level
shifter
is needed. But most computers today, doesn't have an RS232 port, so you
also
need a USB-to-RS232 serial adapter (cable). Thus its a definite
advantage
to
buy a pre-fabricated USB-to-serial converter using 3.3 Volt TTL levels
on
the serial side. Common one to look for are based on the PL2303 and FTDI
chips.
WARNING! RS232 levels are up to 15V, which can cause seriously
damage at your TV!"

Regards,
Javier VM

--- In Crestron@...
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "grumpy_cake" <crestron@> wrote:

Hi,

I hope someone can have some patience and spoon feed me
through
this as I have sat here for hours and have got nowhere. I am guessing a
bit
so please let me know if I am doing something stupid.

Firstly this may all be down to me using a module that may
not
work as I can't find my TV.

I have a: UE55ES7000
Closest I can find is the UN55ES8000

I've made up a cable for EX-LINK control using the diagram
in
the module pdf

(integrated_partner_modules/help_files/959/samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_help.pdf)

Tested cable with multi-meter, seems fine.

I have set the value of the RS232 mode to Debug.

Tried a basic test with the module set up like this:



I'm getting nothing in debugger on Samsung_Rx$ and the TV
responds to nothing.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.






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Re: Activity Detection

 

It was the Page Join Transmit.....always the little things

Thanks

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

And on that note, if you don't need the page join feedback you can turn off Page Join Feedback Transmission (without connecting to a panel PAGEJOINXMIT ?) -- I'd say that's certainly not helping because the processor sees it as inbound data from the panel and thus "activity"

Lincoln

--
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ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
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Crestron Services Provider


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Jay Basen
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Activity Detection

I expect this may be due to page joins transmitting back from the touch panel to the processor.

Hope this helps

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:23:58 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Activity Detection





So I have a small piece of code running in my MC3 that basically says if my TPS-4L Activity Detection goes Low Set the hard button Backlight to Low and Jump to Page X. From my understanding Activity Detection is based on anything from the touch panel to the processor, not the other way around. But in my case here, when the processor triggers the page flip, it also registers that as activity, thus trigger the backlights to go high and the timer to restart.

Am I incorrect in my assumption or am I just plain doing something wrong.









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Re: Activity Detection

 

or what you could do, don't use the activity detection and connect all you
digital join press to an or gate, attach the or gate to a ros trig. attach
the ros out to an os gate [trig*] ( put a 0 on the trig) and the os out
trig the action you want to do.




{Paf}


2013/5/10 Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>

**


And on that note, if you don't need the page join feedback you can turn
off Page Join Feedback Transmission (without connecting to a panel
PAGEJOINXMIT ?) -- I'd say that's certainly not helping because the
processor sees it as inbound data from the panel and thus "activity"

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Services Provider


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Jay Basen
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Activity Detection

I expect this may be due to page joins transmitting back from the touch
panel to the processor.

Hope this helps

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:23:58 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Activity Detection

So I have a small piece of code running in my MC3 that basically says if
my TPS-4L Activity Detection goes Low Set the hard button Backlight to Low
and Jump to Page X. From my understanding Activity Detection is based on
anything from the touch panel to the processor, not the other way around.
But in my case here, when the processor triggers the page flip, it also
registers that as activity, thus trigger the backlights to go high and the
timer to restart.

Am I incorrect in my assumption or am I just plain doing something wrong.

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Re: Activity Detection

 

And on that note, if you don't need the page join feedback you can turn off Page Join Feedback Transmission (without connecting to a panel PAGEJOINXMIT ?) -- I'd say that's certainly not helping because the processor sees it as inbound data from the panel and thus "activity"

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Jay Basen
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Activity Detection

I expect this may be due to page joins transmitting back from the touch panel to the processor.

Hope this helps

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:23:58 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Activity Detection





So I have a small piece of code running in my MC3 that basically says if my TPS-4L Activity Detection goes Low Set the hard button Backlight to Low and Jump to Page X. From my understanding Activity Detection is based on anything from the touch panel to the processor, not the other way around. But in my case here, when the processor triggers the page flip, it also registers that as activity, thus trigger the backlights to go high and the timer to restart.

Am I incorrect in my assumption or am I just plain doing something wrong.









------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links