Morning all,

Just about pulling what is left of my hair out trying to deal with CEC control of a Samsung Frame...

\x40\x04 works fine for on and I can select HDMI inputs fine

but when it comes to turning it off, the only CEC frame it will listen to is \x40\x36 but that only puts it into ART mode, not actually off...

Has anyone else seen this and found an alternate for actually putting it into standby?

I've tried \x40\x44\x6C and \x40\x44\x40 but no luck so far....

Thanks in advance for any help...

Joe

This is quite easy and we have done it several times, although probably not in the last 5 years. We used a company Synapsys who supply and configure another Trend module that adds to the Trend system. This then has an RS232 port for communication, Simple, works reliably, but not cheap, as they need to access and program the Trend system. I would guess that they probably now have a BACNET interface, as that is the current fashion. It is worth talking to them.

I just started playing with this TStat and the TSTAT Config Tool in toolbox...

Do others have issues with being able to connect to a stat?
I open the tool, retrieve a TStat's config, make a change, then send back...All good...
A few minutes later, I try to receive or send and the Tool will not even open the connection dialog...? ?Is this a *Feature* ???

TIA!

For public variables I usually create methods for SIMPL+ to use for setting and getting.?

for class objects as long as you are aware that SIMPL+ requires the class to have a parameterless constructor. So I sometimes will create a method called “Initialize” or “SimplCtor” that does everything I needed the constructor to do. It’s then a 2 step process because of this but at least it works.?

for Events it looks like you’re already doing it the way I usually do it. Use your own custom event args class like you’re doing.?

What are some best practices to instantiate objects between Simpl# and Simpl+.

Public string MyMessage;

Thanks for your input @ckangis, that is great info!

@johnmax, my goodness that is a PITA.? Wow.? Just wow.? That is pretty clever and I may actually utilize that, but wow talk about some backwards engineering.

Thanks for the responses guys!

Just an FYI...
There's an extender in SMW for the TSW-x70 panels called Button toolbar.
It allows you to show/hide the toolbar and turn each of the 5 buttons on or off.
It also allows you to place the toolbar on either of the 4 sides of the panel.

The one thing I can't remember is if you can completely hide the TB lip (make it inactive). You may need to use the console commands that you mentioned for this...

We discovered the same issue with the virtual toolbar. It is a poor replacement for panel mounted hard buttons. Especially when the real estate is still there for them- its not like theres no bezel...

What we are doing is using the TSW App Control extender, and using the Open App_fb signal to send console commands to the panel with the SSH Interface v1.7 module. Once the Open App_fb signal goes high, we send VKENABLE ON followed by VKSHOW OFF which enables the toolbar then immediately hides it. Then when the user wants to leave the Sonos app they just need to swipe out the toolbar and hit the home button to exit. Once thats done we see the Open App_fb on the device extender go low, and then we send the console command VKENABLE OFF which removes the toolbar from the panel.?

I sent many requests to support to have them check the panel to see of the toolbar is enabled or not, and if it is then when youre in Sonos or even the browser it should automatically enable the Home button temporarily. Or else you cannot leave the app you are stuck there util you reboot the panel. All I got was "yea that seems like a good idea" and havent seen any fix for it. At least our workaround works for us.?

Hi All,

Kindly I need more information about the integration between Trend Control IQ4E (Honeywell) and Crestron system (Pro3). is there a way to communicate between these 2 systems and how, if someone can help me, please? especially since the Trend System is already configured and the installers are not available anymore on-site.

So the first step, I need to make sure the integration is possible. Then is there a way to sniff the Trend commands and do some reverse engineering without getting into re-configuration of the Trend system?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Hi?
Anyone have a IR driver for the Kartina Like TV-203 (Dune TV-203)? IR TV-102 not work...

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+1 for hating the virtual 'Hard Buttons'...
As you may know, SMW gives you pretty good control of the VHB window, and *I Think* that there's a way to have the program know that the (Sonos) app is running vs the custom project.
Assuming the latter, you could have the VHB show only when the Sonos app is in play and also just show the HOME button, then hide it when you're back to the custom project...

As for the Sonos modules, here's my deep and painfully long experience:
1. V2 does work pretty well...

2. The Sonos API/Crestron MPO implementation is actually great for lo tech clients - just presets *** (Sonos Favorites) transports and metadata...very simple. You can always launch into the Sonos App for detailed control

3. 50% on my sites are basically trouble free. 50% have issues with the Sonos system going offline. I have not in 2-3 years been able to determine what is unique about the problem sites. Because of this, I have built a separate program to manage the Sonos module, even passing CRPC thru the EISC that connected the main and Sonos programs without any noticeable difference compared to having the module in the main program. I do this because when the Sonos system goes off line, the program must be restarted to get connection again and I don't want to have to restart the main program.? This way you could restart the Sonos program every night or build a custom monitor that restarts the program when it sees that the Sonos system is off line.

*** Generally, my biggest complaint other than the need to restart on various sites is that Sonos refuses to give us a *Good* way to remotely manage the system. Most importantly to be able to help clients set favorites...

Crestron panel’s voice-to-text still uses the cloud for processing. ?There are very few solutions that don’t these days, I think.

Voice Recognition (aka Voice-to-Text, requiring manual string parsing and no fixed voice command syntax) feature's AutoListen function stopped working on TSx-x60 series. The issue was being tracked in report BR 421 from 2 support cases, first reported Dec.2017 and later again in Apr.2019. The issue was never addressed, and closed in Nov.2021 without a fix, mostly due to very low demand / utilization of this feature in the field.

That's what caused the the "no longer supported" verbiage to be added to OLH 5755. It may just pertain to x60, and maybe x52 and TSR. I'm not sure offhand about the status of Voice Recognition and/or AutoListen support on legacy x52 series panels, though the Voice Control Reserved Joins device extender is still present in SIMPL on x52.

I don't see any evidence outside of that OLH to suggest that x70 AutoListen isn't supported, so you'll probably be good to go if you choose to utilize it and it seems to be working. I can't speak to any guarantees of continued long-term support, but I don't know of any plans to intentionally deprecate the feature either. However, if AutoListen ever does stop working, you'll just need to trigger the <Start Voice Capture> signal to start the Voice-to-Text (same as you would on TSW-x60).

As for TSS models, those are used for scheduling applications only (Fusion or 3rd party apps). They're sold at a discounted price, but don't run a custom Smart Graphics UI or have IP Table entries to go online with a processor as a result. (With the exception of legacy TSW-752, which offered the option of toggling between scheduling and SG UI modes in the local setup menu.)

So we've got a Sonos integration project we just could not get the homeowner to come off of.? We are just going to be using the Ports as sources so nothing too fancy.? I'm leaning towards just having a link on the panel to flip to the Sonos application and be done with it but ran into an issue about returning back to the user project from the application.

Apparently the only way to get back to the project once the Sonos app is launched is to use the virtual hardkey home or power buttons.? This is going to present a problem as we absolutely despise that new virtual button bar and disable it on all projects.? Is there a way to overlay a return or something on the Sonos app or has anyone figured out a different way to get back to the user project?

Also, do the Sonos modules with Crestron work with v2 still?? Debating putting in control modules and including control options within the user project if I cant get back out of the Sonos app easily.

Oliver - thanks for the help. I was able to isolate the issue with another method that the string variable hadn't been declared properly and was causing a Null Reference Exception.

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He didn't mention not having an external network connection just that Alexa/Google have security concerns, which anyone in their right minds know they do.? Josh.ai is founded on security first and if you contact them they can tell you how to lock it down even moreso for a LAN.? Any voice service is going to have to have external access to a voice server to process the commands.? Even Crestrons internal microphones utilize Googles libraries I believe.