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Re: Alternative to high-end automation

 

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I?m both a Crestron and Control4 and don?t find the Control4 significantly cheaper compared to Crestron.

Programming of C4 is much simpler than SIMPL, it?s more configuring than programming and the GUI is fixed ¨C comparable to Crestron Home.

There?s a limited version of the C4 programming environment that can be sold to the client for a small fee. You can do 95% of what the dealer version can do. For instance, new drivers for new equipment can only be added by the dealer version. The rest is more of less the same.

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Cheers,

Thorsten

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Brad Wykoff via groups.io
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. April 2022 16:05
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] Alternative to high-end automation

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So far, I am finding that it is requiring a dealer. I have programmed about every system out there but don't have access to software anymore. I have looked into Control4 and URC Total Control but requires dealer to program.

Re: Alternative to high-end automation

 

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AFAIK any control system that can do IP and serial communications is going to be sold by a dealer. A used 3-series processor and an HR-150 would be a more budget friendly solution.?

Ryan Cunningham?

On Apr 13, 2022, at 7:07 AM, Brad Wykoff via groups.io <bradwykoff@...> wrote:

?So far, I am finding that it is requiring a dealer. I have programmed about every system out there but don't have access to software anymore. I have looked into Control4 and URC Total Control but requires dealer to program.

Re: Alternative to high-end automation

 

So far, I am finding that it is requiring a dealer. I have programmed about every system out there but don't have access to software anymore. I have looked into Control4 and URC Total Control but requires dealer to program.
Re: Alternative to high-end automation

 

Control4 - it does require dealer software but for a quick home theater it¡¯s pretty inexpensive.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 8:58 AM Brad Wykoff via <bradwykoff=[email protected]> wrote:
To begin, I have a Crestron System in my house, but I have a friend that I am installing a small theater, but he can't afford Crestron. Any suggestions for an alternative to Crestron due to budget, but needs the capability of either RF or WiFi handheld remote with IP or serial controlled devices.

Re: Calling a C# method from Simpl+

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.
Alternative to high-end automation

 

To begin, I have a Crestron System in my house, but I have a friend that I am installing a small theater, but he can't afford Crestron. Any suggestions for an alternative to Crestron due to budget, but needs the capability of either RF or WiFi handheld remote with IP or serial controlled devices.
Re: <rant> Setting IP addresses on Processors and TouchPanels

 

On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 01:33 PM, Daniel Portugal wrote:
what's the hydrogenenable ?
Its for XIO Cloud. Seems to generate unneeded errors so if youre not using it turn it off (HYDROGENENABLE OFF)
Re: Big Ass Fan integration

 

Here is some more info about BAF changing the Haiku fans to the i6 protocol:



mentioning, at least for now, .

also - , which might allow reverse engineering.

?(found from a link )

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 7:28 AM Jason Melvin via <jwmelvin=[email protected]> wrote:
Oh no, that's a bit of a disaster. The end of that thread on the hubitat?forum indicates the change to the BAF?app did change the integration. I'm not finding much about how they are controlled now.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 4:41 PM bi0drain <naplesisnotmyhome@...> wrote:

Try sniffing the ios udp, i am curious what you will see


On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 3:58 PM Doug Greenhalgh <Doug1369@...> wrote:
So i have a Haiku fan and am trying the 2.1 module in the database, not seeing anything coming in on the RX line of the UDP/IP? connection with 31415 as the port. this fan is using the BAF app and the fan is on firmware 3.0 according to the app. commands going to the module seem fine, ie:?<20:f8:5e:63:8c:5c;LIGHT;AUTO;GET>? ? i have checked the mac address in the BAF app, it is correct, thinking maybe they did break something, if anyone has any ideas please let me know. I also seen reference to trying a TCP/IP symbol, i did that and get a 5 on the status which is connection broken remotely if that sheds any light. also on the module i have tried just putting a 1 on the enable line and also just driving it high after the program has booted correctly, didnt seem to matter.

Re: Big Ass Fan integration

 

Oh no, that's a bit of a disaster. The end of that thread on the hubitat?forum indicates the change to the BAF?app did change the integration. I'm not finding much about how they are controlled now.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 4:41 PM bi0drain <naplesisnotmyhome@...> wrote:

Try sniffing the ios udp, i am curious what you will see


On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 3:58 PM Doug Greenhalgh <Doug1369@...> wrote:
So i have a Haiku fan and am trying the 2.1 module in the database, not seeing anything coming in on the RX line of the UDP/IP? connection with 31415 as the port. this fan is using the BAF app and the fan is on firmware 3.0 according to the app. commands going to the module seem fine, ie:?<20:f8:5e:63:8c:5c;LIGHT;AUTO;GET>? ? i have checked the mac address in the BAF app, it is correct, thinking maybe they did break something, if anyone has any ideas please let me know. I also seen reference to trying a TCP/IP symbol, i did that and get a 5 on the status which is connection broken remotely if that sheds any light. also on the module i have tried just putting a 1 on the enable line and also just driving it high after the program has booted correctly, didnt seem to matter.

Multiple projects on TSW panel #tsw

 

Hi All,

client wants to be able to switch between several interfaces. Not themes, completly different GUIs with different logic.
I think it's not good idea to have all these GUIs in one VTPro project as the progect will become very heavy.
In theory I could add in to the program several touchpanels with own logic and in the touchpanel add several IPIDs. Then I will need to load?desired project.
Does anybody know how to load specific project to TSW using console? I would like to avoid using Toolbox scripts...

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Topics in Home Automation - New Article in Residential Tech Today

 

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My latest article, "Shelly TRV is Smart Home Technology for Homes Heated with Radiators¡± is being published by the good folks at Residential Tech Today Magazine on their web site.

Radiators have been used to heat homes for over 100 years and even today are used in new home construction.?However, it has been challenging, if not impossible, to integrate their operation into a smart home.?The new Shelly TRV is changing that.?This article looks at the features and functionality of the Shelly TRV.?In addition, for Crestron programmers, I have updated the Crestron-Shelly driver suite I've written to support the Shelly TRV.?There is a link to my GitHub included in the article.

You can find the article here:?

For those interested in earlier articles that I've written, you can find those here:

Finally, for those that want to see even more content I've written about smart home technology you can find that here:

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Re: Mag250/254

 

I see a file for a Mag254 in file section. Does anyone know if this works for the MAG250 as well? ( I downloaded it to try but we won't be loading for weeks)

Thank you
Re: Mag250/254

 

Hi Ian,

Did you ever get the file? I am doing a few of these and wondered if you would share your file.

Thank you,

Jon
Re: Big Ass Fan integration

 


Try sniffing the ios udp, i am curious what you will see


On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 3:58 PM Doug Greenhalgh <Doug1369@...> wrote:
So i have a Haiku fan and am trying the 2.1 module in the database, not seeing anything coming in on the RX line of the UDP/IP? connection with 31415 as the port. this fan is using the BAF app and the fan is on firmware 3.0 according to the app. commands going to the module seem fine, ie:?<20:f8:5e:63:8c:5c;LIGHT;AUTO;GET>? ? i have checked the mac address in the BAF app, it is correct, thinking maybe they did break something, if anyone has any ideas please let me know. I also seen reference to trying a TCP/IP symbol, i did that and get a 5 on the status which is connection broken remotely if that sheds any light. also on the module i have tried just putting a 1 on the enable line and also just driving it high after the program has booted correctly, didnt seem to matter.

Re: Big Ass Fan integration

 

So i have a Haiku fan and am trying the 2.1 module in the database, not seeing anything coming in on the RX line of the UDP/IP? connection with 31415 as the port. this fan is using the BAF app and the fan is on firmware 3.0 according to the app. commands going to the module seem fine, ie:?<20:f8:5e:63:8c:5c;LIGHT;AUTO;GET>? ? i have checked the mac address in the BAF app, it is correct, thinking maybe they did break something, if anyone has any ideas please let me know. I also seen reference to trying a TCP/IP symbol, i did that and get a 5 on the status which is connection broken remotely if that sheds any light. also on the module i have tried just putting a 1 on the enable line and also just driving it high after the program has booted correctly, didnt seem to matter.
Re: <rant> Setting IP addresses on Processors and TouchPanels

 

what's the hydrogenenable ?
Re: TCP Client Stopped working

 

For the record, the site CP4 that had this issue is on 2.7000.00040 as well
Re: TCP Client Stopped working

 

Brian M,
Interesting. I remember your previous post on this now (I think!)
I don't think that I've seen this myself but could definitely see the correlationI really dislike highly intermittent/random issues...:(
Re: ZeeVee 1.0.1 modules, using custom strings into ZeeVee_ZyperMP_Processor_v1.0.1

 

I just wrote a module for ZeeVee and stumbled on the same thing.
Prefixing each string with /x0A did the trick for me.
Re: ZeeVee 1.0.1 modules, using custom strings into ZeeVee_ZyperMP_Processor_v1.0.1

 

I have to wonder if there are multiple driving sources as well
Try debugging the to device string......

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 9:27 PM Lincoln King-Cliby via <lincoln=[email protected]> wrote:

For the second scenario¡­ what happens if you put the \x20 at the end of the string? It seems like it¡¯s taking the first byte of the new command and treating it as the end of the prior command (and hence the ¡®one step behind¡¯ behavior since it¡¯s not executing the command until it gets the ¡®end¡¯ of the command)

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What do these commands look like?

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How wide is the programmatic trigger?

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Is it possible multiple digitals on the SIO are high simultaneously/going high on the same wave?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spannertech@...
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 4:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] ZeeVee 1.0.1 modules, using custom strings into ZeeVee_ZyperMP_Processor_v1.0.1

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I have a use case where I need to do audio breakaway switching so I'm sending custom commands from an SIO into the To_device$ input. I worked with Jay at ZeeVee and these custom commands are doing exactly what I want. The weirdness is this:

If I trigger the digital inputs to the SIO in Simpl debugger, I see the string go out, I see the ZeeVee respond and I hear my audio breakaway switch happening as expected.

If I trigger that exact same digital input but from my program, I see the string go out, but this time, no response and no audio switch.?

My faith has been rocked in believing that a digital is a digital based upon what I'm seeing. I have a case open with Crestron but no resolution yet.?

This is NOT to do with terminations. It seems to work (when it works from Simpl debugger) with either no termination, CR or CR+LF.?

Not sure if it¡¯s a clue but: I did try a separate TCP/IP symbol direct to the ZeeVee controller sending out the same commands. This gave unexpected results: when triggered from the program or Simpl debugger, every command was now acknowledged with an error message saying it didn¡¯t recognize the command because the first character of the string was chopped off. (the first word of the string is ¡°join¡± and it was complaining it didn¡¯t know what ¡°oin¡± meant). I tried prefixing the strings with a \x20 (blank character). This prevented error messages and every message was executed, but I noticed switching was happening ¡°1 step behind¡± and I had to send each command twice and it all felt fairly flaky and it didn¡¯t seem like the correct direction to go.

TIA for any responses.

OP

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