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Re: Combinable / Divisible Rooms


 

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Divisible rooms are tied with voting systems as by far my favorite single type of systems to program [as long as the engineers haven¡¯t tried getting overly cute with it (e.g. 2 CODECs shared against any of 5 room sections in any combination with the attendant mess that becomes of AEC references, camera selection/routing, etc., etc. )]

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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D

Commercial Market Director

Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold)

ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional

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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:58 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: Combinable / Divisible Rooms

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If you have multiple processors, don't split up the logic, centralize it all in one program.? You'll thank me later.? Don't use crosspoints unless you're already comfortable with them, stick to what you know.? Buffers work fine at this scale.


Be prepared for them to change the room numbers and master rooms around on you, because if it hasn't already happened (and they haven't told you yet), it will.

At least the TP stuff will be a little easier these days with dynamic source lists and visibility joins on everything.

Good luck.? Divisible rooms are one of the places where control systems can really shine.

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby lincoln@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:

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Usually when sensors aren¡¯t provided we do everything we can to get the client to put sensors in (it almost always results that the savings from programming outweighs the cost of the sensors and in our opinion/experience yields a more idiot-proof system).

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When we can¡¯t get people to bite on that approach usually it¡¯s something along the lines of when all rooms in a possible configuration are off the user is prompted to choose the desired configuration (e.g. in a 4-way divisible room A-B-C-D, if D is ¡°on¡±, the A-B-C touchpanels will allow selection of A+B, B+C, or A+B+C but not anything including ¡°D¡± [i.e. A+B+C+D, B+C+D, C+D]) to prevent someone from accidentally ¡°hijacking¡± the meeting in the rooms that are on.

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Determine which room will be the master/have the master logic when rooms are combined early. If it¡¯s a 3 way room, this is almost invariably the middle room for every scenario. (A+B = B Master, B+C = B Master, A+B+C = B Master). For other layouts this isn¡¯t always so easy and depends on the physical layout/attributes of each section.

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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D

Commercial Market Director

Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold)

ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional

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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:07 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Combinable / Divisible Rooms

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Searched Conference center and found this thread. Had no idea it would be this old but here goes.?

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Neil, Lincoln, Chip,

I figure you're top on the div-space list code gurus, but anyone with experience of conference centers with all areas needing background music and combining rooms without any sensors at all, I could use a pep talk before I dive into this one on my plate at the moment. 7 areas, 6 7" panels, a few video zones, but for the most part all audio with input audio plates and mics all around. Crestron lighting and some 232 or relay controlled shades in some rooms too.

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Thinking of using XP's.

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Thinking of using dynamic lists.?

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Since there are no sensors, I was wondering if you recommend I have only one panel capable of setup modes and not having that capability on all panels?

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There will be one behind a receptionist' s desk, but its designed to be a panel to control the pre-function space. Again, no wall sensors.\

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I believe I need to create an XP for each zones individual zone controls and then one for each combination.?

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Just unsure of the Devil's Spawn!

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Thanks in advance for any/all insight,

Cyberbri

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