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Re: ARDOPC, Pi and QDX? #ardop

 

Thanks for that John, was a good little rabbit hole to run down.

I did also find an option to force it in ARDOPC.c (FSKOnly = FALSE), but that would be a bit of a hack.

Digging through the source pat (Winlink software), it looks like it knows how to send commands, so that might be the best place to send the command from.

Regards,
Marcus B
Re: BPQ32 Protocol Question

 

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Tnx John.
Prof. Chris Lance
www.ww2bsa.org

-------- Original message --------
From: John G8BPQ <john.wiseman@...>
Date: 5/8/23 11:08 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [bpq32] BPQ32 Protocol Question

PROTOCOL for an ASYNC port can only be KISS or NETROM.

73,
John

On 05/05/2023 03:53, Chris Lance WW2BSA wrote:

I am curious if the PROTOCOL for BPQ32 can be anything other than KISS?
In other words, if I wanted to attach a piece of hardware other than a TNC in KISS mode, what other data format (protocol) options would I have?
For example Host, Modem/Dumb-Modem, LSUB, TUP, POLL etc....

73 de Chris WW2BSA
Re: BPQ32 Protocol Question

 

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PROTOCOL for an ASYNC port can only be KISS or NETROM.

73,
John

On 05/05/2023 03:53, Chris Lance WW2BSA wrote:

I am curious if the PROTOCOL for BPQ32 can be anything other than KISS?
In other words, if I wanted to attach a piece of hardware other than a TNC in KISS mode, what other data format (protocol) options would I have?
For example Host, Modem/Dumb-Modem, LSUB, TUP, POLL etc....

73 de Chris WW2BSA
Re: ARDOPC, Pi and QDX? #ardop

 

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ARDOPC has a command "FSKONLY 1" that should do what you want. With BPQ you can add that to the ARDOP port config but I don't think you can do that with the Winlink Clients.

73,
John

On 08/05/2023 13:31, Marcus wrote:

Hi all,

I've been having a bit of a dig around, and I'm wondering if this combination is possible, potentially with some changes to the source?

Some background, I have a QRP-Labs QDX 3a (not yet built), it's a 5W digital modes transceiver, but with a catch, it can only do a single frequency at a time, without phase. The microprocessor analyses the incoming audio, works out the frequency and generates the RF from a clock source. So FSK possible, no PSK. It does work with HF APRS. It's also extremely light and portable (~150g).

I briefly looked up the ARDOP specs and only superficially understand them, and have looked at what I believe is the ardopc the source.

Is it possible to tell ardopc to only use 4FSK modes? (I'm thinking potentially strAllDataModes in ARDOPC.c.) Does doing this make sense at all?

Is there a better way to do this?

If this can be made to work, it potentially adds a very small and lightweight multiband HF transceiver to the list of radios that can do Winlink.

Regards,
vk3tst/5wtf

BPQ32 Protocol Question

 

I am curious if the PROTOCOL for BPQ32 can be anything other than KISS?
In other words, if I wanted to attach a piece of hardware other than a TNC in KISS mode, what other data format (protocol) options would I have?
For example Host, Modem/Dumb-Modem, LSUB, TUP, POLL etc....

73 de Chris WW2BSA
ARDOPC, Pi and QDX? #ardop

 

Hi all,

I've been having a bit of a dig around, and I'm wondering if this combination is possible, potentially with some changes to the source?

Some background, I have a QRP-Labs QDX 3a (not yet built), it's a 5W digital modes transceiver, but with a catch, it can only do a single frequency at a time, without phase. The microprocessor analyses the incoming audio, works out the frequency and generates the RF from a clock source. So FSK possible, no PSK. It does work with HF APRS. It's also extremely light and portable (~150g).

I briefly looked up the ARDOP specs and only superficially understand them, and have looked at what I believe is the ardopc the source.

Is it possible to tell ardopc to only use 4FSK modes? (I'm thinking potentially strAllDataModes in ARDOPC.c.) Does doing this make sense at all?

Is there a better way to do this?

If this can be made to work, it potentially adds a very small and lightweight multiband HF transceiver to the list of radios that can do Winlink.

Regards,
vk3tst/5wtf
Re: Complete Commands List #pilinbpq

 

It's under the sysop commands section John. Probably from v4.08 days

Steve?

On Mon, 8 May 2023, 06:26 John G8BPQ, <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
You may be thinking of the extended ROUTES command (R R) which I've just noticed isn't documented.

73,
John


On 07/05/2023 21:46, Tommy Brooks via wrote:
Yes, I've used that list, but its the unofficial commands I'm interested in. I've done some digging in the code but haven't found where those commands are defined yet.

One such command in particular pinted the heard stations and their quality. I'm wondering what other commands may aid in station setup or testing.

Re: Complete Commands List #pilinbpq

 

There's a consolidated 'cheat sheet' for node, sysop and bbs commands at?

I've documented my attempt at a custom node application at??- the cmdport syntax in the official docs confused me, sorry John!? Also note this version uses systemd rather than inetd.??

Martin
Re: Complete Commands List #pilinbpq

 

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You may be thinking of the extended ROUTES command (R R) which I've just noticed isn't documented.

73,
John


On 07/05/2023 21:46, Tommy Brooks via groups.io wrote:

Yes, I've used that list, but its the unofficial commands I'm interested in. I've done some digging in the code but haven't found where those commands are defined yet.

One such command in particular pinted the heard stations and their quality. I'm wondering what other commands may aid in station setup or testing.

Re: Complete Commands List #pilinbpq

 

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The Node command list is in Cmd.c, in variable COMMANDS[]. There may be the odd command in there that is still under test or intended for debugging, , but if you find anything useful that isn't in? or SYSOP.html let me know and I'll add it.

73,
John



On 07/05/2023 21:46, Tommy Brooks via groups.io wrote:

Yes, I've used that list, but its the unofficial commands I'm interested in. I've done some digging in the code but haven't found where those commands are defined yet.

One such command in particular pinted the heard stations and their quality. I'm wondering what other commands may aid in station setup or testing.

Re: Complete Commands List #pilinbpq

 

Yes, I've used that list, but its the unofficial commands I'm interested in. I've done some digging in the code but haven't found where those commands are defined yet.

One such command in particular pinted the heard stations and their quality. I'm wondering what other commands may aid in station setup or testing.
Re: No remote nodes showing in NODES list

 

Thank you both for the input. That helps a lot.

I'll make sure that the other BPQ nodes are in fact available without a digi. I thought they were, but it could be that they aren't.
Re: PERMITTEDAPPLS not functioning in config files....

 

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If someone can connect directly to application not in PERMITTEDAPPLS on an ax.25 port then that needs investigating. But users can connect to the node then use any application.

73,
John

On 07/05/2023 17:14, Bruce Colburn via groups.io wrote:

Unfortunately on the port identified below, PERMITTEDAPPLS is not working - Whether they attempt to attach to the SSID for the APPLS or via the node, it seems they still have access to the application in question. I had a new young ham this past week grab the WEB application and the RMS application that are not listed as permitted on the Packet 300 HF port. Though I did have a short talk with him over email to let him know those both eat up the HF band, and he now understands why that creates an issue, I cannot lock out those two items on just that port it seems. I do need those available to the VHF side locally. This was also tested both ways on two nodes, mine and WE1H who has a DXC(luster) that he wants unavailable to HF Packet.

Greg - N3BYR

Re: PERMITTEDAPPLS not functioning in config files....

 

Unfortunately on the port identified below, PERMITTEDAPPLS is not working - Whether they attempt to attach to the SSID for the APPLS or via the node, it seems they still have access to the application in question. I had a new young ham this past week grab the WEB application and the RMS application that are not listed as permitted on the Packet 300 HF port. Though I did have a short talk with him over email to let him know those both eat up the HF band, and he now understands why that creates an issue, I cannot lock out those two items on just that port it seems. I do need those available to the VHF side locally. This was also tested both ways on two nodes, mine and WE1H who has a DXC(luster) that he wants unavailable to HF Packet.

Greg - N3BYR
Re: Complete Commands List #pilinbpq

 

Try this:



The normal BBS commands work for the bbs as well.


I'm sure there are undocumented commands.
Re: No remote nodes showing in NODES list

 

On 5/6/23 19:41, Tommy Brooks via groups.io wrote:
few are also available directly, without a digi
Those nodes should be in your 'Nodes' list.
Re: No remote nodes showing in NODES list

 

On 5/6/23 19:41, Tommy Brooks via groups.io wrote:
There are several BPQ nodes within one digi hop of my node, and they are not being added to the NODE list. ...
Only 'node broadcasts' from 'bona fide' nodes are processed and stored.
'Node broadcasts' are not digipeated.

Should these nodes automatically be added to
my table, or is this behavior normal?
No, digipeated packets should not be processed.
Yes, this is normal behavior.

73, Chuck
Re: No remote nodes showing in NODES list

 

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KaNodes are not NETROM nodes so do not get added to the node list. As far as I can remember, KaNodes do not do any multi-node routing; they DO allow you to connect to a second station (node or user station) while connected to the KaNode, but that is about it.

Jim KA7EHK

On May 6, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Tommy Brooks via <kg5zsu@...> wrote:

I'm slightly confused about the NODES table. There are several BPQ nodes within one digi hop of my node, and they are not being added to the NODE list. The digi's in question are KA-nodes, but the BPQ nodes are in my MHEARD list, and a few are also available directly, without a digi. Should these nodes automatically be added to my table, or is this behavior normal?

Complete Commands List #pilinbpq

 

Is there a a complete list of commands for the LinBPQ terminal? I've seen several thrown around on the group that aren't listed in the instructions or the ? prompt.
No remote nodes showing in NODES list

 

I'm slightly confused about the NODES table. There are several BPQ nodes within one digi hop of my node, and they are not being added to the NODE list. The digi's in question are KA-nodes, but the BPQ nodes are in my MHEARD list, and a few are also available directly, without a digi. Should these nodes automatically be added to my table, or is this behavior normal?
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