Re: LinBPQ says: KAM Pactor com4 com4 could not be opened
Hi Misko,
Try: COMPORT=/dev/ttyUSB3
73 de Rich WA3WLH
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Hi Danny,
?
? Thank you for your support, No there is no 44 pointing to ISP
? That why I got encap.txt but I could not find a way to attach them to the network card
? There is a lot I don't understand about using the 44 address how they play a part with bpq
? ?or in fact the standard lan network
?
All the best from Alan & Thanks
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Hi Mark,
?
? Thank you for the information, when i finished this Project, I will look at your one..
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Everything you need to know is here?
Hi Alan,
ok you have ip forwarding on so that¡¯s a start.? if you ham give a day or two i get some information ?for you ?? i run here? lin-xr, jnos2, fbb,linbpq. ?all on debian.? i have commercial ips. that i encap to 44 ips.?
i also helped my mate set his up using ?the modem commecial ip and the rest private ips.?
do you have your 44 ips ?pointing to your commecial ip. (modem ip gateway)?
On 2 Apr 2025, at 23:22, Alan <alan@...> wrote:
? Good Afternoon Mark,
?
? ? All appears to be like a KISS keep it simple and stupid, I am trying to learn, it is not my fault that ham radio people cant document
? ? information for others to learn, Hamnet is something down the line, And I can tell you now Radio hams in Blackpool are not interested
? ? in supporting others only themselves, I have run three servers here, all died in a year, no interest, I turned the last one off yesterday
?
? ?Sorry if I sound aggressive, nothing against you.
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Hi Alan,
ok you have ip forwarding on so that¡¯s a start.? if you ham give a day or two i get some information ?for you ?? i run here? lin-xr, jnos2, fbb,linbpq. ?all on debian.? i have commercial ips. that i encap to 44 ips.?
i also helped my mate set his up using ?the modem commecial ip and the rest private ips.?
do you have your 44 ips ?pointing to your commecial ip. (modem ip gateway)?
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On 2 Apr 2025, at 23:22, Alan <alan@...> wrote:
? Good Afternoon Mark,
?
? ? All appears to be like a KISS keep it simple and stupid, I am trying to learn, it is not my fault that ham radio people cant document
? ? information for others to learn, Hamnet is something down the line, And I can tell you now Radio hams in Blackpool are not interested
? ? in supporting others only themselves, I have run three servers here, all died in a year, no interest, I turned the last one off yesterday
?
? ?Sorry if I sound aggressive, nothing against you.
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: LinBPQ says: KAM Pactor com4 com4 could not be opened
It did not work with DEVICE=/dev/ttyUSB3
...
Using Configuration file /home/ham/linbpq/bpq32.cfg
Source record not recognised - Ignored:DEVICE=/dev/ttyUSB3
...
Initialising Port 01 Telnet Server
Initialising Port 02 SCS Pactor /dev/ttyUSB1
Initialising Port 03 TCPKISS IP 127.0.0.1 Port 8001 Chan A
Initialising Port 04
UZ7HO Host 127.0.0.1 Port 8000 Chan A
Initialising Port 05
UZ7HO Host 127.0.0.1 Port 8000 Chan B
Com Open Failed: No such file or directory
Initialising Port 06 KAM Pactor NOPORT NOPORT could not be opened
As the other option, I tried to create a simlink:
ln -s /dev/ttyUSB3 /dev/com4
com4 appeared in /dev/ but it did not work either:
Initialising Port 01 Telnet Server
Initialising Port 02 SCS Pactor /dev/ttyUSB1
Initialising Port 03 TCPKISS IP 127.0.0.1 Port 8001 Chan A
Initialising Port 04
UZ7HO Host 127.0.0.1 Port 8000 Chan A
Initialising Port 05
UZ7HO Host 127.0.0.1 Port 8000 Chan B
Com Open Failed: No such file or directory
Initialising Port 06 KAM Pactor com4 com4 could not be opened
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Good Afternoon Mark,
?
? ? All appears to be like a KISS keep it simple and stupid, I am trying to learn, it is not my fault that ham radio people cant document
? ? information for others to learn, Hamnet is something down the line, And I can tell you now Radio hams in Blackpool are not interested
? ? in supporting others only themselves, I have run three servers here, all died in a year, no interest, I turned the last one off yesterday
?
? ?Sorry if I sound aggressive, nothing against you.
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
VPN can be used for many things. In this case we use it to deliver the 44net across otherwise closed networks.
On 02/04/2025 12:34, Mark Phillips via
wrote:
This is all far too complicated. The whole point of
both ARDC and HamGate projects is to lower the access bar. No
requirement for DMZ's or specific routers that can do Protocol 4
or ampr-rip.
Why don't you UK guys club together and rent
yourselves a VMS (I'm using an outfit in Manchester for work
purposes for only $6 a month). Convert that into a "HamGate" and
then VPN to it. Problem solved.
If you vpn in why do you need a 44. address?? I thought the idea
of the 44 was that it was public and anybody who wanted to could
attack/use the kit?
Once you have a VPN in the way are you not - by definition -
private?
Access to it is via either a VPN client running on
the BBS device, or a small sub $25 router ahead of the BBS
device.
Back when I ran GB7TVG the UK IP coordinator was a
bloke called Paul Taylor, G1PLT . Is it still her? Maybe you
could work with the coordinator to make a "HamGate" happen?
Alan
I have the following
IPGATEWAY
Adapter eth0
44ENCAP 192.168.1.100 <router mac
addrr>
IPADDR
****
Obviously replace your 44 net address and
mask with your allocated ones.?
The 100 address is configured as the dmz
IP in my ISP router. Which BPQ then used for 44 traffic
including the broadcasts
73
Steve?
Hi Steve,
?
? At the moment I am the bbs, I am not connected
to no one, it would be nice if I could
? So can you give me a copy of your IPGateway
section please, with explainable comments
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Thank you Steve for the infomation, what version of Debain are you using please
?
All the best from Alan
?
On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 12:38 PM, iainmaoileoin wrote:
Alan
?
I have the following
?
IPGATEWAY
Adapter eth0
44ENCAP 192.168.1.100 <router mac addrr>
IPADDR
****
?
Obviously replace your 44 net address and mask with your allocated ones.?
The 100 address is configured as the dmz IP in my ISP router. Which BPQ then used for 44 traffic including the broadcasts
?
73
Steve?
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
On 02/04/2025 12:34, Mark Phillips via
groups.io wrote:
This is all far too complicated. The whole point of
both ARDC and HamGate projects is to lower the access bar. No
requirement for DMZ's or specific routers that can do Protocol 4
or ampr-rip.
Why don't you UK guys club together and rent
yourselves a VMS (I'm using an outfit in Manchester for work
purposes for only $6 a month). Convert that into a "HamGate" and
then VPN to it. Problem solved.
If you vpn in why do you need a 44. address?? I thought the idea
of the 44 was that it was public and anybody who wanted to could
attack/use the kit?
Once you have a VPN in the way are you not - by definition -
private?
Access to it is via either a VPN client running on
the BBS device, or a small sub $25 router ahead of the BBS
device.
Back when I ran GB7TVG the UK IP coordinator was a
bloke called Paul Taylor, G1PLT . Is it still her? Maybe you
could work with the coordinator to make a "HamGate" happen?
Alan
I have the following
IPGATEWAY
Adapter eth0
44ENCAP 192.168.1.100 <router mac
addrr>
IPADDR
****
Obviously replace your 44 net address and
mask with your allocated ones.?
The 100 address is configured as the dmz
IP in my ISP router. Which BPQ then used for 44 traffic
including the broadcasts
73
Steve?
Hi Steve,
?
? At the moment I am the bbs, I am not connected
to no one, it would be nice if I could
? So can you give me a copy of your IPGateway
section please, with explainable comments
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
This is all far too complicated. The whole point of both ARDC and HamGate projects is to lower the access bar. No requirement for DMZ's or specific routers that can do Protocol 4 or ampr-rip.
Why don't you UK guys club together and rent yourselves a VMS (I'm using an outfit in Manchester for work purposes for only $6 a month). Convert that into a "HamGate" and then VPN to it. Problem solved.
Access to it is via either a VPN client running on the BBS device, or a small sub $25 router ahead of the BBS device.
Back when I ran GB7TVG the UK IP coordinator was a bloke called Paul Taylor, G1PLT . Is it still her? Maybe you could work with the coordinator to make a "HamGate" happen?
Alan
I have the following
IPGATEWAY Adapter eth0 44ENCAP 192.168.1.100 <router mac addrr> IPADDR ****
Obviously replace your 44 net address and mask with your allocated ones.? The 100 address is configured as the dmz IP in my ISP router. Which BPQ then used for 44 traffic including the broadcasts
73 Steve? Hi Steve,
?
? At the moment I am the bbs, I am not connected to no one, it would be nice if I could
? So can you give me a copy of your IPGateway section please, with explainable comments
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Alan
I have the following
IPGATEWAY Adapter eth0 44ENCAP 192.168.1.100 <router mac addrr> IPADDR ****
Obviously replace your 44 net address and mask with your allocated ones.? The 100 address is configured as the dmz IP in my ISP router. Which BPQ then used for 44 traffic including the broadcasts
73 Steve?
Hi Steve,
?
? At the moment I am the bbs, I am not connected to no one, it would be nice if I could
? So can you give me a copy of your IPGateway section please, with explainable comments
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Good Moring Iain,
?
? ?And I am in the UK to :)
?
? ?Are you saying use two lan ports, 1 with a 44 address and one with 192.168.1.X
?
? Or am I miss understanding you...
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
I may be wasting peoples time here.
The use of a 44 address on the 'public internet' needs co-operation from your ISP.
I own an ISP and kind of know the deep detail of BGP and RR adverts that need to be made.
Think about how a packet for a 44.whatever.you.are gets back to you.....
It leaves the recipient - perhaps to the default gateway.
The default gateway has to get it to the right place in your ISP core network - so that they can route it to you.
That means the ISP has to advertise your IP bank - (needs to be a /24 for any of my transit providers) - from their kit.
When they get the packet back they have to route it to you - ah wait when you login you will get an ip address in the range that the ISP owns, not a 44.x.y.z one.
So they need to overlay a 2nd route for you (and your kit needs to know how to handle 2 or more IP arriving at your doorstep).
You could NAT/PAT everything and then lose the benefit of having a 44.
Find a friendly ISP and see whether you can persuade their tech support to get you to somebody who understand BGP.? I think that is a forlorn hope for most big ISPs.
even having a server wont help - unless you have a BGP agreement with some peer/transit provider.....
This is a UK based answer.? No idea how other countries do it.? I suspect it is just as hard elsewhere.
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On 02/04/2025 10:40, Chuck Gelm wrote: On 4/1/25 16:26, Alan wrote:
The problem is I cannot talk to the 44.x.x.x network,? even though I have a 44 address Hi, Alan:
"The problem is I cannot talk to the 44.x.x.x network"
Do you have an internet account with an ISP?
If yes, then you should be able to reach the 44./8 network.
"even though I have a 44 address"
Do you have a host on the internet with a 44./32 address?
If yes, then that host should be able to reach the 44./8 network.
I have 2 AMPR 44./xx network assignments.
Alas! Neither are reachable over the internet.
73, Chuck
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
On 4/1/25 16:26, Alan wrote: The problem is I cannot talk to the 44.x.x.x network,? even though I have a 44 address Hi, Alan: "The problem is I cannot talk to the 44.x.x.x network" Do you have an internet account with an ISP? If yes, then you should be able to reach the 44./8 network. "even though I have a 44 address" Do you have a host on the internet with a 44./32 address? If yes, then that host should be able to reach the 44./8 network. I have 2 AMPR 44./xx network assignments. Alas! Neither are reachable over the internet. 73, Chuck
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Hi Steve,
?
? At the moment I am the bbs, I am not connected to no one, it would be nice if I could
? So can you give me a copy of your IPGateway section please, with explainable comments
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Alan You don't need the file if you do the ip gateway setup.?
If your host already has a working 44 address, just add the IPGATEWAY configuration as per the docs should work.? I've not done that on an already 44 host.?
Steve?
Good Morning Steve
?
? Sorry Steve you have missed my problem, I have a file with all the 44 address in called encap.txt
?
? ?How do i use it in conjunction with bpq Please
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Good Morning Steve
?
? Sorry Steve you have missed my problem, I have a file with all the 44 address in called encap.txt
?
? ?How do i use it in conjunction with bpq Please
?
All the best from Alan
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
The way I do it is to set a dmz address in the router and use that as the point in BPQ with another 192 address. I couldn't add it in the web page directly as it only allows detected IPs and because its a virtual in BPQ that doesn't happen. I had to fudge the live html before submitting the page in the router. That's just a problem with my router.
73 Steve?
Hi Mark,
?
? I am afraid they built a motorway from the M6 directly into Blackpool, that has reduced the number of
? people coming to Blackpool it used to take 2/3 hours from the M6 to get into Blackpool, so when you got
? there you was to tired to leave if you did not like it, now 15mins from M6 in to Blackpool, and a lot of people
? go away..
?
? I have 8 ip's of 44.131 network, and more if I want to use them..
?
? No I am not on the 44NET Mailing list, did not know there was one :)
?
? No problem with server, but I would need help, I cant get this BPQ and Encap.txt working
?
? This is all new to me...
?
All the best from Alan
?
?
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Re: Packet BBS using 44 network
Hi Mark,
?
? I am afraid they built a motorway from the M6 directly into Blackpool, that has reduced the number of
? people coming to Blackpool it used to take 2/3 hours from the M6 to get into Blackpool, so when you got
? there you was to tired to leave if you did not like it, now 15mins from M6 in to Blackpool, and a lot of people
? go away..
?
? I have 8 ip's of 44.131 network, and more if I want to use them..
?
? No I am not on the 44NET Mailing list, did not know there was one :)
?
? No problem with server, but I would need help, I cant get this BPQ and Encap.txt working
?
? This is all new to me...
?
All the best from Alan
?
?
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Mark Phillips
iainmaoileoin