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Re: WhitePages (WP): Is type Bulletin a requirement?
First, every message, whether personal or bulletin, could potentially add to or update White Pages.
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In the old days Bulletins were the way to send them. Perhaps some BBS programs sill do. That should no longer be the case. In BPQ WP updates should be sent as P type messages.
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If you only send WP messages to your forwarding partners, and send them as P type messages then BPQ will process them and silently kill them.
Address WP destinations as WP @ call and do not include the full HA
As a backup measure be sure every forwarding partner has their call in the AT CALLS of their forwarding record.
Set your node to reject B type messages.
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You still see P type WP messages being forwarded around looking for the destination...
This problem occurs mostly today when a BBS loses a forwarding partner and the WP message will pick up the HA from their WP and send it pursuant to the existing forwarding rules at the time.? That results in multiple hops and it my never find a destination, if that user has ceased operating a BBS.? Good operating practices are, when losing a forwarding partner, you not only remove the MAP line, but also remove the user or at least uncheck that he is a BBS, AND remove the WP destination entry for that user.? Many forget to do that.? I am guilty of it myself although I do occasionally check to be sure my WP destinations are still forwarding partners.
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And that is how some P type WP still get forwarded around using the HA.
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Re: WhitePages (WP): Is type Bulletin a requirement?
Sorry to resurrect an old message, but there still seems to be those who
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do not know how to properly set up their Whitepages (WP) part of BPQ. They send them out as bulletins or receive properly addressed WP to their bbs call and drop them into the general mail list instead of quietly placing it into their WP database. No user should ever see a WP message when they ask for a list on the bbs. I have been trying to find complete documentation on this, but I only find small bits or old messages on the mailing list. Can someone blast out the complete logic, instructions and settings for both outgoing WP messages to a partner bbs and how to handle the incoming WP messages for the WP database? Some sysops are giving up on this and they tell their forwarding partners not to send them any WP messages at all. On 4/28/2022 5:19 PM, Mike Melnik wrote:
Chuck --
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
;-) Hello George Kirn had contact with this data. On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 11:47?AM Mark Taylor via <mtaylor=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 11:28 AM, Mark Taylor wrote:
I don't think there is a way to send a message from your BBS to your Winlink P2P session Actually, you can.? Using WebMail you can address a personal message to AI7HH.? It will be on your BBS.? You should then be able to retrieve the message from Winlink Express.
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Note that your user record must not show you as a BBS and must have RMS Express user checked.? They cannot both be checked!
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If you want to discuss off list my email is on my node web pages.
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
So, I was expecting the message you created in Winlink Express would be transmitted and stored in your BBS.
In this configuration I don't think there is a way to send a message from your BBS to your Winlink P2P session due to having a user record of the same call as Winlink...may be wrong.
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So, wondering why you are not shown on the BPQ node map.? That reveals your BPQ version... What flavor and version of BPQ are you running?
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
I should also tell you that although you are using Winlink Express as a client your message, if addressed like advised, will be in your BBS and will never be sent to the Winlink CMS.? That is a whold nother can of worms...
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You will be able to see the message in your BBS either by looking in the Mail Management-Messages, or in WebMail using a browser, if you have that configured (it is by default.)
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
I probably wasn't clear, but there is no change in the BBS log file since before I made the changes.? From what I can see, there has been no progress.? The BBS has always offered messages but the offer is never displayed on the calling station's Winlink session.
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My outgoing test message is formatted for P2P and I ran a P2P session.? The two rigs connect, the BBS node offers messages, but the calling station never receives the offer.? After a few seconds, the session times out.
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong on the Winlink side.
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I appreciate the time you're putting into this for me.
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
Well, I see major progress in the log file.? It did connect, it checked for messages, then disconnected.? That's progress.
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Are you sure the message you created in Winlink Express was addressed to AI7HH-1?
You also needed to be sure the message was formatted as a P2P message.? I forgot to mention that. If it is not then you can double click on the message in the outbox and change it to a P2P message and post it again to the outbox.
Then try your connection again.
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What I am not seeing is your node on the BPQ node map.? Do you have a LOCATOR=DM33tm statement in your configuration?
Go ahead and start BPQ and leave it connected to the internet and lets be sure we can all see it.
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
BBS log after making your suggested changes:
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240920 14:50:42 |AI7HH ? ? Incoming Connect from AI7HH on Port 5 Freq 0 Mode VARA FM WIDE
240920 14:50:42 >AI7HH ? ? [BPQ-6.0.24.1-B2FWIHJM$] 240920 14:50:42 >AI7HH ? ?? >>> AI7HH Connected - 0 Message(s) <<< 240920 14:50:42 >AI7HH ? ? > 240920 14:50:58 |AI7HH ? ? AI7HH Disconnected ?
The behavior appears to be the same as before, but 0 messages were offered since I unchecked the BBS box in my user config.? Nothing was displayed on Winlink Express other than the initial connection and the timeout. |
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
Ok, your nodecall cannot be -1 because you are using that as your BBS call.
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Make NODECALL=AI7HH-7
Change this line: APPLICATION 1,*BBS,,AI7HH-1,,,
To this: ?APPLICATION 1,BBS,,AI7HH-1,AIHBBS,255
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In Mail Managemenr:
Make sure that your Mail main configuration has? your BBS APPL 1.
You will need to have AI7HH as a user in the Mail Mgmt users configuration and it will need to have RMS Express User checked.
At this point your user record must NOT have BBS checked. (this will be temporary for testing.)
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Open winlink express your call should be AI7HH.?
Create a message addressed to AI7HH-1 and post to your outbox.
Open a Vara FM P2P session.
Connect to station AI7HH-1
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Try the connect, then look at the BBS log.
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Re: Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
Your node call, and the call you are using in Winlink Express are also pertinate. What are they?
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And you can use VARAFM as the drive. I think they will both work though.
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I assume that you have set the VaraFM Command Port in the Vara TNC to 8400 and your Vara HF is 8300?
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Having trouble adding VaraFM port to existing node
Apologies in advance if this turns out to be a stupid question with a simple answer (which I suspect will be the case.)
I'm trying to add a VaraFM port to my node and have been testing by connecting from my mobile unit. ? ?
I have a pretty simple setup, with one port for Telnet, one for Vara and now one for VaraFM. ?My only application is BBS mail.
When connecting with Winlink, I have tried Vara FM Winlink, Vara FM P2P and Vara FM Radio-Only sessions, with the same results on each.
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My BPQ32 version is 6.0.24.1, running on Windows 11 and VaraFM V4.3.7.
My test station is using Winlink V1.7.18.0 and VaraFM V4.3.7 on Windows 10.
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My calling station connects immediately, but after a few seconds of back and forth, the BPQ Port times out and disconnects. When I look at the Vara Status window, it shows that 9 messages were offered but not sent. ?I can use VaraFM to ping and autotune successfully with the BBS VaraFM TNC.
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The BBS log file contains the following entries:
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240920 01:24:10 |AI7HH ? ? Incoming Connect from AI7HH on Port 5 Freq 0 Mode VARA FM WIDE
240920 01:24:10 >AI7HH ? ? [BPQ-6.0.24.1-B2FWIHJM$] 240920 01:24:10 >AI7HH ? ?? >>> AI7HH Connected - 9 Message(s) <<< 240920 01:24:10 >AI7HH ? ? > 240920 01:24:26 |AI7HH ? ? AI7HH Disconnected ?
Here are the pertinent sections of my BPQ32.cfg file:
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; A.2: GENERAL NETWORK PARAMETERS ;--------------------------------------------------------------------- OBSINIT=5 OBSMIN=3 NODE=0 NODESINTERVAL=0 IDINTERVAL=0 BTINTERVAL=0 L3TIMETOLIVE=25 L4RETRIES=4t L4TIMEOUT=60 L4DELAY=10 ? L4WINDOW=4 ? MAXLINKS=63 MAXNODES=128 MAXROUTES=64 MAXCIRCUITS=128 MINQUAL=168 BBSQUAL=255 MAXHOPS=4 MAXRTT=90 ? BUFFERS=999 ;--------------------------------------------------------------------- ; A.3: TNC DEFAULT PARAMETERS ;--------------------------------------------------------------------- T3=180 PACLEN=236 ? ?;Sets application default packet length IDLETIME=900 ? ?; Idle link disconnect timer seconds BBS=1 ? ? ? ? ; 1= running BBS mail application ? NODE=0 ? ? ? ?; Do not allow relay to another node via your root HIDENODES=1 ? ?; Do not display node list ENABLE_LINKED=N ? ?; Do not allow application masking to another callsign ;---------------------------------------------------------------------; ;B.3: PORT 5 - VARA FM ;--------------------------------------------------------------------- PORT ?PORTNUM=5 ?ID=UHF-VARAFM ?DRIVER=VARA ?CONFIG ? ADDR 127.0.0.1 8400 PATH C:\VARA FM\VARAFM.exe ?FM9600 ENDPORT ; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
; C.1: MAP INCOMING SSID TO APPLICATIONS ; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ;FORMAT App#,User Command,BPQ Command,Direct Call,AXIP Alias,Quality APPLICATION 1,*BBS,,AI7HH-1,,, ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Thanks, Dan AI7HH
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Re: Attach to a VARAFM port?
Yes, same as with VARA HF 73, John On 18 Sep 2024 15:16, Mark Taylor <mtaylor@...> wrote:
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Re: Incomplete/incorrect gateway configuration (N0CALL)..
What is your client?
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Looking at the BPQ Node map it appears that you have your NODECALL set to both K4SPB and K4SPB-7 at one time. But I see you are offline at the moment.
Your config does not assign K4SPB to any application in the config so do you have an external client making that connection?
Just rememember that any call used in the node cannot be used on RF on the same frequency or you will experience the same behavior.
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So when you restart be sure K4SPB is not used in the node anywhere so that it can be used by an outside client program.
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So what is your client?
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