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Re: The Bible versus Scientific Evidence


 

Hi Mandy,

DNA is the building block of life.? We share 99.9% of our DNA with other humans.? That's because we're human.? It's the differences that make us individuals.

But were you aware that you share 70% of your DNA with an earthworm?? Note I said "you".Emoji? That's because earthworms are also living. So all that we have to do is find ways for the 29.9% of the worm's DNA to "evolve" to make it into you. Along the way the earthworm will become a cow (sharing 80% with us) and the cow will become a dog (84%) and the dog a mouse (85%) and the mouse a cat (90%) before the cat becomes a pig (which shares 98% of its DNA with us, 1.1% more than an orangutan at 96.9%).??

Does anyone else see how ridiculous this is?? And I omitted the observation that humans share 60% of their DNA with bananas.

These examples are just to show how people seem to like to ask the wrong questions.? After all, it's the differences (the DNA that we don't share) that is responsible for the diversity of life.

In fact, many believe that the discovery of DNA was the final nail in the coffin containing Darwinian macroevolution.

Regarding microevolution, any sensible theory must also consider the effects of things like culture and environment in addition to changes through natural selection, mutation, etc.? For example, consider that Ashkenazi Jewish genetics through a restrictive breeding pool (different from inbreeding) has resulted in an average IQ of 115 (against the normed average of 100). This occurred over millennia.

What, if anything, will be the genetic changes arising from China's disastrous one-child policy that has resulted in a male:female imbalance of 105 males for every 100 females or the modern West's current focus on transgenderism and the alphabet stew?? In all probability, these illogical and irrational "trends" won't last long enough to effect significant genetic change (like the Ashkenazi IQ), but carried on for hundreds or thousands of years they?could cause some genetic changes.

But, of course, we now have scientists of questionable ethics with the ability to tinker directly with the human genome.? The current CCP virus seems by many to have arisen during scientific tinkering called "gain of function", also known as cut-and-paste genetic engineering, in a biological weapons lab in Wuhan.? This involves scientists taking a natural virus and making direct substitutions in its RNA/DNA coding.? Whether intended or not, they have created a virus that disproportionately attacks the elderly and unleashed it on the world.

This brings me back to Ecclesiastes. There is nothing new under the sun. This is not the first pandemic, nor will it be the last.? It's unlikely to achieve the destructive levels of the catastrophic Spanish Flu of 1918 because there are already effective therapeutics and treatments and there may soon even be vaccines, so life will go on... until next time.

There is nothing new under the sun.? But what we'll see this week is that "under the sun" is not all there is!? Ecclesiastes will deliver an uplifting, positive message in a depressing outer wrap.? I hope to see you all there for the conclusion on Thursday.

In the meantime, please stay safe.

Blessings,

Ray

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On Monday, 14 September 2020, 01:58:02 pm AEST, Mandy <mandyflynn01@...> wrote:


Hi there everyone I am enjoying your emails and opinions .All the advances man has made and we are no closer to the big question. My question is how do you create something from nothing (Big Bang) and all living being from that.I read that we humans and apes share over 95% of the same DNA and also that today humans do not use 100% of brain capacity . Maybe we are still evolving. That is not to say I believe we are evolved from apes just adding to the conversation. Thank you for sharing Mandy?



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From: "Ray via groups.io" <ray.sarlin@...>
Date: 14/9/20 12:44 pm (GMT+10:00)
Subject: Re: [b4uc] The Bible versus Scientific Evidence #Science

Hi Merlene,

Possibly the fact that Wikipedia bags Creation Ministries is a badge of honour. Creation Ministries is a group of scientists who believe in the Young Earth and produce a voluminous amount of scientific papers, books and DVDs making their case.? They also speak at various churches and conduct, as far as I am aware, occasional seminars.? They're also available to debate scientists with the opposing view, though few take them up.? The Australian and USA divisions are the same body.? They seem to me to be particularly strong in geology, biology and information science, including DNA.? Young Earth is, I think, a subset of the more generalised Intelligent Design which argues forcefully that anything as complex as life must have a designer.

One point that you may wish to consider.? If Darwinism (e.g., macroevolution) has been debunked, and it HAS been even though leftist politics still forces it to be taught as politically correct "science" in education, the issue of trying to force the Bible to fit evolution would seem to be counter-productive.? Either one believes in the Bible or they don't.? Either one believes in Darwinism, or they don't. Belief in Darwinism is actually closer to a religion than belief that the Bible is divinely inspired is.? At least the Bible actually claims to be divinely inspired (2 Tim 3:16-17), while Darwinism (macroevolution) simply masquerades as science.

Blessings,

Ray





On Monday, 14 September 2020, 11:46:13 am AEST, Merlene <merlene@...> wrote:


Hi Ray, Carole, Christine and Peter,
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Thankyou for your input.? A few thoughts for comment:
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1.? Carole:? I haven’t heard of Creation Ministries. Wikipedia does not speak kindly of them.? What “religion” or beliefs do they purport to follow?? I am ALWAYS suspicious of US driven religious propaganda.? There appears to be two different bodies – the one in Brisbane and an International one.? Which one should I be investigating?? And do they have conspiracy tendencies?? Would you please send a link to WHICH site you refer?? Thanks.
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2. Peter:? I have always strongly believed that evolution (including by natural selection) DOES NOT occur outside species.? Original species may evolve and change considerably adapting to changing environmental conditions etc. (Galapagos Island) but a bear doesn’t change into an ape over time!? Who would be so foolhardy to suggest that God looks like an Ape!? Yet that is what we have been taught – that we evolved from Apes!
Original organisms could only have come from the One who created the universe and our world – agree with your comment.
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3. Christine:?? I have not heard of Dr John F. Ashton.? Thank you for your suggestion.?
And no, it’s not too late to continue the fun of names – as Ray has commented several times, Names are very significant.
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Thanks everyone for your comments.? Please don’t stop – there are still a lot of questions I asked!!?
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Sincerely,
Merlene
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From: Christine
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [b4uc] The Bible versus Scientific Evidence
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Hi Merlene
You may find the books of award winning Australian scientist, Dr John F Ashton, helpful. His credentials are impressive.
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His books are readily available. The ones perhaps most relevant to help answer your query are:
Evolution Impossible, and
In Six Days ( which is a compilation of essays by PhD scientists covering many areas of expertise and supporting a young earth outlook).
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Carole's suggestion of Creation Ministries is good. They give short, interesting bites but are careful to include references to aid in further research if you are so inclined.
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I did intend to add? comment on the fun sharing of the significance of names that you started up. Maybe too late now!
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Enjoy your continuing studies,
Christine
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, 9:08 am Peter W, <pwo33029@...> wrote:

Good Morning Everyone,

I would just like to comment about Darwin’s ‘Theory of Evolution’.

The definition of ‘evolution’ is generally agreed? to be ‘the process by which different kinds of living organism are believed to have developed from earlier forms during the history of the earth’.

To ‘evolve’, you need something to evolve from.

So where did the original organism come from which allowed Darwin’s theory to evolve?

I am suggesting it came from God.

Regards

Peter Wornham

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merlene
Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2020 3:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [b4uc] The Bible versus Scientific Evidence

Hi Ray and all Fellow Students,

A couple of weeks ago I promised I would ask a question that has always remained unanswered, seeking Ray’s and the Group’s comments.? It is very lengthy, for which I apologise, but it is so complex a subject I couldn’t compress it further.

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Sorry for the length of this email raising issues of the Bible’s account of beginnings of mankind versus scientific evidence and findings, but this is a topic which seems to me cannot ever be reconciled, in spite of all our latest technological achievements.

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Cheers,

Merlene

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