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Re: The Bible versus Scientific Evidence


 

Hi Merlene,

Possibly the fact that Wikipedia bags Creation Ministries is a badge of honour. Creation Ministries is a group of scientists who believe in the Young Earth and produce a voluminous amount of scientific papers, books and DVDs making their case.? They also speak at various churches and conduct, as far as I am aware, occasional seminars.? They're also available to debate scientists with the opposing view, though few take them up.? The Australian and USA divisions are the same body.? They seem to me to be particularly strong in geology, biology and information science, including DNA.? Young Earth is, I think, a subset of the more generalised Intelligent Design which argues forcefully that anything as complex as life must have a designer.

One point that you may wish to consider.? If Darwinism (e.g., macroevolution) has been debunked, and it HAS been even though leftist politics still forces it to be taught as politically correct "science" in education, the issue of trying to force the Bible to fit evolution would seem to be counter-productive.? Either one believes in the Bible or they don't.? Either one believes in Darwinism, or they don't. Belief in Darwinism is actually closer to a religion than belief that the Bible is divinely inspired is.? At least the Bible actually claims to be divinely inspired (2 Tim 3:16-17), while Darwinism (macroevolution) simply masquerades as science.

Blessings,

Ray





On Monday, 14 September 2020, 11:46:13 am AEST, Merlene <merlene@...> wrote:


Hi Ray, Carole, Christine and Peter,
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Thankyou for your input.? A few thoughts for comment:
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1.? Carole:? I haven’t heard of Creation Ministries. Wikipedia does not speak kindly of them.? What “religion” or beliefs do they purport to follow?? I am ALWAYS suspicious of US driven religious propaganda.? There appears to be two different bodies – the one in Brisbane and an International one.? Which one should I be investigating?? And do they have conspiracy tendencies?? Would you please send a link to WHICH site you refer?? Thanks.
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2. Peter:? I have always strongly believed that evolution (including by natural selection) DOES NOT occur outside species.? Original species may evolve and change considerably adapting to changing environmental conditions etc. (Galapagos Island) but a bear doesn’t change into an ape over time!? Who would be so foolhardy to suggest that God looks like an Ape!? Yet that is what we have been taught – that we evolved from Apes!
Original organisms could only have come from the One who created the universe and our world – agree with your comment.
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3. Christine:?? I have not heard of Dr John F. Ashton.? Thank you for your suggestion.?
And no, it’s not too late to continue the fun of names – as Ray has commented several times, Names are very significant.
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Thanks everyone for your comments.? Please don’t stop – there are still a lot of questions I asked!!?
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Sincerely,
Merlene
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From: Christine
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [b4uc] The Bible versus Scientific Evidence
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Hi Merlene
You may find the books of award winning Australian scientist, Dr John F Ashton, helpful. His credentials are impressive.
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His books are readily available. The ones perhaps most relevant to help answer your query are:
Evolution Impossible, and
In Six Days ( which is a compilation of essays by PhD scientists covering many areas of expertise and supporting a young earth outlook).
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Carole's suggestion of Creation Ministries is good. They give short, interesting bites but are careful to include references to aid in further research if you are so inclined.
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I did intend to add? comment on the fun sharing of the significance of names that you started up. Maybe too late now!
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Enjoy your continuing studies,
Christine
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, 9:08 am Peter W, <pwo33029@...> wrote:

Good Morning Everyone,

I would just like to comment about Darwin’s ‘Theory of Evolution’.

The definition of ‘evolution’ is generally agreed? to be ‘the process by which different kinds of living organism are believed to have developed from earlier forms during the history of the earth’.

To ‘evolve’, you need something to evolve from.

So where did the original organism come from which allowed Darwin’s theory to evolve?

I am suggesting it came from God.

Regards

Peter Wornham

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merlene
Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2020 3:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [b4uc] The Bible versus Scientific Evidence

Hi Ray and all Fellow Students,

A couple of weeks ago I promised I would ask a question that has always remained unanswered, seeking Ray’s and the Group’s comments.? It is very lengthy, for which I apologise, but it is so complex a subject I couldn’t compress it further.

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Sorry for the length of this email raising issues of the Bible’s account of beginnings of mankind versus scientific evidence and findings, but this is a topic which seems to me cannot ever be reconciled, in spite of all our latest technological achievements.

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Cheers,

Merlene

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