Re: QCGB banjo needed

That would be awesome... but shipping it to South Africa will probably cost more than the part...?

On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 08:20, Andrei via <calciu1=hotmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I am sure someone on the list has a decent mill and could make one for you.

Get

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This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?

I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.?

Any thoughts on this?

On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 04:15, mike allen via <animal=psln.com@groups.io> wrote:

I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?

there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .

animal

Re: QCGB banjo needed

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look in the files section , there's file on the first page I believe that says 17 Drawings open that one up & there's 3 pages I think & there's at least 1 banjo there , may be more .

animal

On 11/4/24 10:15 PM, Natius van der Watt wrote:

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This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?

I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.?

Any thoughts on this?

On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 04:15, mike allen via <animal=psln.com@groups.io> wrote:

I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?

there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .

animal

Re: QCGB banjo needed

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I am sure someone on the list has a decent mill and could make one for you.

Get

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From: atlas-craftsman@groups.io <atlas-craftsman@groups.io> on behalf of Natius van der Watt <vnatius@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2024 1:15:27 AM
To: atlas-craftsman@groups.io <atlas-craftsman@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] QCGB banjo needed

This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?

I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.?

Any thoughts on this?

On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 04:15, mike allen via <animal=psln.com@groups.io> wrote:

I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?

there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .

animal

Re: QCGB banjo needed

#117018

This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?

Any thoughts on this?

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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 04:15, mike allen via <animal=psln.com@groups.io> wrote:

I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?

there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .

animal

Re: QCGB banjo needed

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This is a great Group thank you all !!

Regards

Steve Liljestrand?

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On Nov 4, 2024, at 9:14?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

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I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?

there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .

animal

Re: QCGB banjo needed

#117016

I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?

there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .

animal

Re: QCGB banjo needed

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ya may try these folks , or lost creek machine

animal

On 11/4/24 2:39 PM, Nelson via groups.io wrote:

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They can often be found on eBay but expect to pay $300+?

If you have access to a mill it would not be a difficult part to make.?

Re: QCGB banjo needed

#117014

They can often be found on eBay but expect to pay $300+?

If you have access to a mill it would not be a difficult part to make.?

QCGB banjo needed

#117013

Would any one know where to ger a L6 1007 banjo for a quick change gear box ?

Re: DIY powerfeed for mill

#117012

IF your Mill is an Atlas horizontal, many came with a power feed. ? You MIGHT find parts to make a conversion

IF your Mill is a vertical, it is a more or less easier project. ?ENCO made a power feed for B-port mills long ago. ??

WHAT is your mill?

Charlie

DIY powerfeed for mill

#117011

Finally got my mill in my machine room & under power . Wondering if
anyone here has come up with a DIY powerfeed that could be used on a mill .

thanks

animal

Re: Hello. New Owner of Old Atlas Mill

#117010

Thank you to all for the references, videos and encouragement! There’s a lot to absorb…especially for this old mind. But, it’s looking more like it’s doable.

Thank you again and i’m sure i’ll be having questions when i actually start working on it.

Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe

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A worthwhile place to point your browser is…

Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe

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Apparently lost the link for tool posts from LMS.?

https://littlemachineshop.com/products/search.php?tabName=Products&term=Tool+posts

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?

SEMPER GUMBY!

Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.

Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.

On Sunday, October 27, 2024 at 12:29:23 PM CDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

Excellent advice!?

Here is a lathe starter kit for Atlas/Craftsman 6" lathes.?https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=6364&category=2122081964

That'll give us a baseline price for a fairly complete starter kit. Here is a much more basic kit, also cheaper, that will fit any lathe with a MT2 taper tailstock, including the 10"&12" Atlas lathes, but without a tool post.?

Here are all the LMS tool post options. 4-way tool blocks range from about $23 to $55.

Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe

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Excellent advice!?

Here is a lathe starter kit for Atlas/Craftsman 6" lathes.?https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=6364&category=2122081964

Here are all the LMS tool post options. 4-way tool blocks range from about $23 to $55.

The AXA QCTP I bought at Amazon is currently about $142, with 5 toolholders. Others have mentioned making their own tool blocks, and once you have a means of holding a milling cutter, and the cutter itself, you could make a 4-way tool block easily. It's a bit more complicated to make the AXA tool blocks, because they need dovetail cut... and unless you buy a kit that has a T-Nut specifically for your lathe you'll need to cut a blank T-nut to fit your compound slide. I used a hacksaw & files to cut mine. A couple thick washers hold it up above the slight hump on my compound. Joe shouldn't need that on his. See the photo.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1313&_nkw=atlas+craftsman+tool+post&_sacat=0 is a listing of tool posts for lathes. Some are for actual Atlas or Craftsman lathes, some are for 6" lathes, and some are pretty generic. Looks like most of the Aloris style QCTPs are more expensive than they need to be. And the cheaper lantern posts are incomplete. You need, at a minimum, the lantern itself, the screw that tightens the tool in the post, the rocker, and the base washer the rocker goes in to adjust the tool angle. Also a T-nut, and the? screw to connect the lantern and T-nut.? Mine came without the rocker, and I filed a piece of square stock into a rocker. You could make the lantern and such, too, if needed.?

Last I looked, Harbor Freight had a 1/2" drill chuck on an MT2 shank for about $15. They also have a kit of very small HSS tool blanks. Last I got some, the kit was $4.99.?https://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece-m2-high-speed-steel-mini-tool-bits-for-metalworking-lathes-40641.html these are 3/16" and smaller for the square bits.?

https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-mini-lathe-drill-chuck-58728.html

He'll need a tailstock to use the drill chuck, as it has an MT2 taper. I've made some of my own tooling, but I did buy a 3/8" MT3 endmill holder. And an MT2-MT3 sleeve, which lets me use MT2 tooling in the MT3 spindle. I made an aluminum tool block for 3/8" bits. I've since gotten an MT3 shank ER32 collet holder, and that lets me hold any size milling cutter or material ease your in the spindle.?

Making your own parts and tools is a great way to increase your skills. Even if you mess up a part, you'll know more the next time. Done a whole lot of that!

If you don't already have them, you should buy a 1" micrometer and 6" dial caliper, and learn to use them. I had a lot of trouble when I got back into machining after more than 35 years. And it took me until I took another class to figure it out. I had either forgotten, or never had the sense of touch necessary to get accurate readings of the micrometer and caliper. A few hours practice with them and a set of gauge blocks fixed that. Just in case I need to do that again, I also have a small set of gauge blocks of my own, now.?

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?

SEMPER GUMBY!

Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.

Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.

On Sunday, October 27, 2024 at 10:20:02 AM CDT, jmartin957 <jmartin957@...> via groups.io <jmartin957@...> wrote:

Good recommendations on the tool holders.

But he hasn’t said what other tooling he has with the lathe. ?Without it the lathe is useless, and that tooling can easily cost much more than the lathe itself.

My recommendations for basic tooling would be:

headstock center

tailstock center

dogs of appropriate sizes?

tailstock chuck

four jaw headstock chuck

three jaw headstock chuck

faceplate

tool bits

steady rest

Given those, plus the lantern toolholder and an assortment of normal shop stuff - lubricants and cutting fluids, taps, measuring tools and a bench grinder - he can make all of the additional tooling he will want. ?I know, I did. ?And that’s the fun of it.

Stuff he can pretty easily make will include:

end mill holders

center drill holders

fly cutters

boring bars

boring bar holder

four way tool blocks

cross slide angle plate for milling

tailstock die holders

arbors of various kinds

carriage and cross slide stops

spiders and catheads

clamp straps, studs and special clamps

holder to use hand grinder as toolpost grinder

indicator holders

And probably a lot of things I’ve forgotten. ?In the end, he can have a well-tooled lathe that will easily and efficiently do anything he asks of it - within it’s limitations of size and accuracy.

John

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On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:23 AM, charles brady via groups.io <ctb11365@...> wrote:

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Welcome to the world of Atlas Lathes, Joe.

?

Some questions for you:

What model lathe did you get? ?They made a 6" swing, a 10" swing and a 12" swing, I think, and recommendations will vary.

?

The simplest is the traditional ROCKER STYLE (some call 'em Lantern Style) tool post. ?Next step up would be a block tool holder, where you might be able to mount two or more tools and rotate the block to bring a tool into use. ?Finally (and there are variations and opinions here too) would be a Quick Change Tool Post. ?Knowing the size of your lathe will dictate what choices make more or less sense.

?

Did your lathe come with change gears or a Quick Change Gear Box?

We'd love to see more pictures of your lathe

Charlie

Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe

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Good recommendations on the tool holders.

But he hasn’t said what other tooling he has with the lathe. ?Without it the lathe is useless, and that tooling can easily cost much more than the lathe itself.

My recommendations for basic tooling would be:

headstock center

tailstock center

dogs of appropriate sizes?

tailstock chuck

four jaw headstock chuck

three jaw headstock chuck

faceplate

tool bits

steady rest

Stuff he can pretty easily make will include:

end mill holders

center drill holders

fly cutters

boring bars

boring bar holder

four way tool blocks

cross slide angle plate for milling

tailstock die holders

arbors of various kinds

carriage and cross slide stops

spiders and catheads

clamp straps, studs and special clamps

holder to use hand grinder as toolpost grinder

indicator holders

John

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On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:23 AM, charles brady via groups.io <ctb11365@...> wrote:

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Welcome to the world of Atlas Lathes, Joe.

?

Some questions for you:

What model lathe did you get? ?They made a 6" swing, a 10" swing and a 12" swing, I think, and recommendations will vary.

?

The simplest is the traditional ROCKER STYLE (some call 'em Lantern Style) tool post. ?Next step up would be a block tool holder, where you might be able to mount two or more tools and rotate the block to bring a tool into use. ?Finally (and there are variations and opinions here too) would be a Quick Change Tool Post. ?Knowing the size of your lathe will dictate what choices make more or less sense.

?

Did your lathe come with change gears or a Quick Change Gear Box?

We'd love to see more pictures of your lathe

Charlie

Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe

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I didn't see a tailstock in his photo, possibly you're looking at the one in my example photo of a lantern style tool post? That was a photo from the group photos that was the first example of a lantern tool post I could find. His compound slide does have the flat top, unlike my TH42. Which is a vintage 1946, according to Robert. So his machine is probably newer than mine.?

Hope he has a tailstock...

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?

SEMPER GUMBY!

Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.

Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.

On Sunday, October 27, 2024 at 10:05:28 AM CDT, Jim F <lacityjim2@...> wrote:

The tailstock is a late model, probably from the 70’s.?

Probably has 1/2” ways too.?

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On Oct 27, 2024, at 7:40?AM, Charles via groups.io <xlch58@...> wrote:

?He included the model number in his post, but the compound looks like the 12 inch model. Basically a 10 inch compound with platform shoes…..

Charles

Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe

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I'm not that familiar with the Craftsman model numbers. But it looked larger than a 6" to me. I would not buy a 6" Atlas/Craftsman lathe now, unless it was a real steal, because I have a better idea what I want, and think I need. ;) But if that had been the very first lathe I'd been able to lay hands on, I would have most certainly bought it. Any lathe is better than no lathe.? Maybe I should have several exclamation points on that sentence? :)

I currently have 5 lathes. 4 milling machines. One of the machines actually 3) counts in both of those categories. My brother bought me a Smithy CB1220XL a few years back. I think it was a hint he wants me to make some stuff for him...

Two Unimats. A SL-1000, and a DB200, which are essentially identical, and can also be either milling machine or lathe. Will have one set up as a mill, one as a lathe. The TH42, and a South Bend Heavy 10L. Also an Atlas MF & Harbor Freight 44991 miling machines. Three drill presses. A 10" shaper, 5 bandsaws, 4 bench grinders...?

Hi! My name is Bill, and I'm a toolohaulic!

I do not recommend doing things the way I have. I also have ADD. Unfortunately without the hyperactivity. :) Hopefully YMMV!

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?

SEMPER GUMBY!

Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.

Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.

On Sunday, October 27, 2024 at 09:40:08 AM CDT, Charles <xlch58@...> wrote:

He included the model number in his post, but the compound looks like the 12 inch model. Basically a 10 inch compound with platform shoes…..

Charles

Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe

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The tailstock is a late model, probably from the 70’s.?

Probably has 1/2” ways too.?

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On Oct 27, 2024, at 7:40?AM, Charles via groups.io <xlch58@...> wrote:

?He included the model number in his post, but the compound looks like the 12 inch model. Basically a 10 inch compound with platform shoes…..

Charles

Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe

#117002

He included the model number in his post, but the compound looks like the 12 inch model. Basically a 10 inch compound with platform shoes…..

Charles

Re: QCGB banjo needed Natius van der Watt All Messages By This Member #117021 That would be awesome... but shipping it to South Africa will probably cost more than the part...? toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 08:20, Andrei via <calciu1=hotmail.com@groups.io> wrote: I am sure someone on the list has a decent mill and could make one for you. Get From: atlas-craftsman@groups.io <atlas-craftsman@groups.io> on behalf of Natius van der Watt <vnatius@...> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2024 1:15:27 AM To: atlas-craftsman@groups.io <atlas-craftsman@groups.io> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] QCGB banjo needed ? This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike? I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.? Any thoughts on this? On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 04:15, mike allen via <animal=psln.com@groups.io> wrote: I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts? there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts . animal
Re: QCGB banjo needed mike allen Member Profile All Messages By This Member #117020 开云体育 look in the files section , there's file on the first page I believe that says 17 Drawings open that one up & there's 3 pages I think & there's at least 1 banjo there , may be more . animal On 11/4/24 10:15 PM, Natius van der Watt wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike? I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.? Any thoughts on this? On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 04:15, mike allen via <animal=psln.com@groups.io> wrote: I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts? there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts . animal
Re: QCGB banjo needed Andrei All Messages By This Member #117019 开云体育 I am sure someone on the list has a decent mill and could make one for you. Get toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: atlas-craftsman@groups.io <atlas-craftsman@groups.io> on behalf of Natius van der Watt <vnatius@...> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2024 1:15:27 AM To: atlas-craftsman@groups.io <atlas-craftsman@groups.io> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] QCGB banjo needed ? This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike? I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.? Any thoughts on this? On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 04:15, mike allen via <animal=psln.com@groups.io> wrote: I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts? there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts . animal
Re: QCGB banjo needed Natius van der Watt All Messages By This Member #117018 This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike? I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.? Any thoughts on this? toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 04:15, mike allen via <animal=psln.com@groups.io> wrote: I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts? there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts . animal
Re: QCGB banjo needed Steve Lil All Messages By This Member #117017 开云体育 This is a great Group thank you all !! Regards Steve Liljestrand? toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Nov 4, 2024, at 9:14?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote: ? I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts? there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts . animal
Re: QCGB banjo needed mike allen Member Profile All Messages By This Member #117016 I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts? there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts . animal
Re: QCGB banjo needed mike allen Member Profile All Messages By This Member #117015 开云体育 ya may try these folks , or lost creek machine animal On 11/4/24 2:39 PM, Nelson via groups.io wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text They can often be found on eBay but expect to pay $300+? If you have access to a mill it would not be a difficult part to make.?
Re: QCGB banjo needed Nelson All Messages By This Member #117014 They can often be found on eBay but expect to pay $300+? If you have access to a mill it would not be a difficult part to make.?
QCGB banjo needed Brian Sherling All Messages By This Member #117013 Would any one know where to ger a L6 1007 banjo for a quick change gear box ?
Re: DIY powerfeed for mill charles brady All Messages By This Member #117012 IF your Mill is an Atlas horizontal, many came with a power feed. ? You MIGHT find parts to make a conversion ? IF your Mill is a vertical, it is a more or less easier project. ?ENCO made a power feed for B-port mills long ago. ?? ? WHAT is your mill? ? Charlie
DIY powerfeed for mill mike allen Member Profile All Messages By This Member #117011 Finally got my mill in my machine room & under power . Wondering if anyone here has come up with a DIY powerfeed that could be used on a mill . thanks animal
Re: Hello. New Owner of Old Atlas Mill Conjada All Messages By This Member #117010 Thank you to all for the references, videos and encouragement! There’s a lot to absorb…especially for this old mind. But, it’s looking more like it’s doable. ? Thank you again and i’m sure i’ll be having questions when i actually start working on it.
Re: Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe Charles Brumbelow All Messages By This Member #117009 开云体育 A worthwhile place to point your browser is…