From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

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On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM



GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at
the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes
tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au





Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His
tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always
hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?





The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is not
measuring from the spindle center to the top of the compound
to determine "tool height" which in turn is the
size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my
metric confusion is too great:??



The Diamond Tool Holder -
eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are
available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To
find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection
page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond Tool
Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au














From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what
size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa



GP



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On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM







James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential
tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How
did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend
9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??











I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?





From:

[email protected]
<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?







I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling
between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is
a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using
a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA
and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who
have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't
help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.







As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,
they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made
one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair
Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will
take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may
buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my
shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder
for

my 16" lathe.







James









On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:











Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to
using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you
were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in
a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a
tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but
not

convenient.

?

?

?

?





From:

[email protected]
<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA





?

Kurt,



What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???





?





Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?
I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.





-Jody











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From: ksierens <ksierens@...>





Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)



To: [email protected]





Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA















I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern
tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old
machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with
very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at
0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of
cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.





?





Kurt S





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From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>







Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)





To:

[email protected]





Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA





?





I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.
Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all
Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.



Dan Coleman