LoBuPa ???A2 Backyard Concert #2 Jetty Rae wsg Greater Alexander!!! ???
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From: Andrea Plevek <andrea.plevek@...> Date: August 13, 2024 at 6:59:32?PM EDT To: lowerburnsparkneighborhoodassociation <LoBuPa@...> Cc: a2backyardconcerts@... Subject: LoBuPa ???A2 Backyard Concert #2: Jetty Rae wsg Greater Alexander!!! ???
? Hi Neighbors!? It's almost that time again - our next concert is a week from Friday, on August 23rd with music starting at 6p. You all know the drill by now: we need help getting the word out! And, to make things a little easier, I've created an e-mail (cc'd above) as well as both and pages to centralize the information exchange going forward (please like/follow/share!). So whether you're a social media user or if you just want to use the old-fashioned telephone, please?tell?your networks!?
See attached for all the details. Can't wait to see you all then!
Best, Andrea & Lindsey 1616 Packard Street
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/14/2024 11:45am at Shalimar on Main St
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Last week we went to First Bite, 5 people attended. ?Next week, we will return to the buffet at Shalimar (last visit 12 June 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at? .
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Shalimar Restaurant
307 South Main St
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/14/2024 11:45am at Shalimar on Main St
I'm in. Looking forward to it. Ed
Last week we went to First Bite, 5 people attended. ?Next week, we will return to the buffet at Shalimar (last visit 12 June 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at? .
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Shalimar Restaurant
307 South Main St
-- Edward Vielmetti?+1 734 330 2465
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/14/2024 11:45am at Shalimar on Main St
On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 01:43:28 PM EDT, Roy Richter via groups.io <richter@...> wrote:
Last week we went to First Bite, 5 people attended. ?Next week, we will return to the buffet at Shalimar (last visit 12 June 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at? .
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Shalimar Restaurant
307 South Main St
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/14/2024 11:45am at Shalimar on Main St
Yes.?
I note that the pipefitters are in town, with their block party this evening, so I don¡¯t see any conflict.?
=Spencer
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On Aug 12, 2024, at 3:15?PM, Brian Rice <berice53@...> wrote:
? I'm in. On August 12, 2024 1:43:25 PM EDT, "Roy Richter via groups.io" <richter@...> wrote:
Last week we went to First Bite, 5 people attended. ?Next week, we will return to the buffet at Shalimar (last visit 12 June 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at? .
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Shalimar Restaurant
307 South Main St
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/14/2024 11:45am at Shalimar on Main St
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On August 12, 2024 1:43:25 PM EDT, "Roy Richter via groups.io" <richter@...> wrote:
Last week we went to First Bite, 5 people attended. ?Next week, we will return to the buffet at Shalimar (last visit 12 June 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at? .
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Shalimar Restaurant
307 South Main St
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Lunch This Wednesday 8/14/2024 11:45am at Shalimar on Main St
Last week we went to First Bite, 5 people attended. ?Next week, we will return to the buffet at Shalimar (last visit 12 June 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at? .
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Shalimar Restaurant
307 South Main St
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Update on Ann Arbor LED streetlights
Last night, the Ann
Arbor City Council voted to install the brighter 58W streetlights
throughout the city.? One mitigating factor that only emerged at the
11th hour is that they can actually be implemented as 48W lights, which
is what was verbally agreed upon.? Council Member Briggs offered an
amendment to enforce the 48W implementation, but the City Administrator
said it was not necessary.? This will now require holding their feet to
the fire.
A
HUGE thank-you to everyone who helped fight for the right thing.?
Although we didn't fully succeed, you were heard, and you made waves,
and we made some significant gains.? Special thanks to Jim Sheerin, Rita
Turmer-Sheerin, Leslie Mason, and Heidi Trudell for drumming up public
support, and to John Mirsky, Rita Mitchell, and Steve Brown for
continued work with the city commissions and elsewhere.? Huge thanks to
everyone who spoke at the Council meetings and wrote emails to Council.
What
became clear at last night's meeting is that the city staff had no
interest in looking at other options, and effectively stonewalled
Council's requests to explore alternatives.? In response to the original
charge from the July 15 meeting to explore options with DTE, the formal
response was a Staff Memo?that provided false reasoning* to stick with
the original plan.? In response to additional Council questions that
were read out at last night's meeting, staff provided no substantive
answers.? In particular, they failed to provide any details for why they
claim 1.5 FTE are needed to maintain the 2-fixture solution (i.e., how
many people does it take to screw in 2 light bulbs), and they claimed
that the amount of money saved by that solution was "nominal" according
to a vague statement by DTE in 2023.? This is unlikely to be true, since
the wattage saved by the 2-fixture solution is about 33% more, and DTEs
rates are set by the Michigan Public Services Commission.? The money
saved is probably substantial, and must be the driving reason why DTE
has fought tooth and nail, through our City Staff, to prevent the
2-fixture solution. ?
In response to the final question, staff stated that they
believed the 29W lights were too dim to be appropriate -- a baseless
statement that directly contradicts the ANSI standards, which they
avoided mentioning.? Why would our city staff believe that? ?despite the
large amount of information that our group and others have provided??
Because, as they stated during the meeting, they've had "near daily"
meetings with DTE.
The
lack of staff responsiveness to Council's charge and requests for
information prevented Council from their stated intention to explore
alternatives -- on behalf of what you, the taxpayers, had loudly
requested, and which was based on solid science. ?
To
end on a positive note, the new LEDs, if implemented at 48W, will be
only 200 - 300% brighter than ANSI standards in residential
neighborhoods, and they'll be a good color temperature of 2700 K and
shielded.? Lighting along arteries should be generally dark-sky
compliant.? We can thank staff for obtaining these partial wins.? We
especially owe a huge thanks to Council Members Erica Briggs (Ward 5) and Dharma Akmon (Ward 4). ?Both
of them?fully engaged with this issue at a technical level, and did a
great deal of work behind the scenes to try to shift course.? Had staff
worked with them in good faith, Council might have had a viable
alternative to consider.? Please consider sending them a note ( EBriggs@..., DAkmon@...).
Thanks again to all.
Sally Oey ?(she/her; ) University of Michigan, Department of Astronomy 323 West Hall,?1085 S. University Ave,?Ann Arbor, MI ?48109-1107 phone: +1-734-936-7885,? fax: +1-734-763-6317
The University of Michigan is a founding member of the MDM consortium, which operates telescopes on ,
Arizona, via the permission and generous lease to the National Science
Foundation by the Tohono O'odham Nation, on whose ancestral and current
lands this observatory is sited.
*See our previous email regarding the misleading staff memo
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Re: action requested on Ann Arbor City Council review of streetlights
Hi Jennifer,
Thanks for sharing this! I
often struggle to generate a message to send to government
representatives, so I'm sharing a generic copy of what I just sent to my
councilmembers, with the hope that it might make it faster for others
to write their own, given the time sensitivity.
Katherine
SUBJECT:
Concern about LED Streetlight Conversion project
BODY:
Hello
Councilmembers ___ and ___,
I am a constituent in Ward ___, with an interest and concern about light
pollution, which not only affects our ability to enjoy the night sky but
also affects wildlife behavior, health, and movement.
I am writing about the current efforts on the part of DTE to replace the
streetlight bulbs with LED equivalents. It has come to my attention
that the supplemental information recently provided by DTE is not
accurate and is misleading, as it is comparing different measurement
systems for lumens (specifically visible light vs. total spectrum light
output).
Fundamentally, the problem is that the proposed 58W LED replacements
will be 300-400% brighter than the IES/ANSI national recommended
standards for residential neighborhoods. These IES/ANSI standards are
based on the brightness received on the ground, and these are the
standards that Ann Arbor should work to meet.
I encourage you to consider postponing any decisions on this matter
until accurate information is available for evaluation and constituent
voices are heard.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
__YOUR NAME___
YOUR STREET ADDRESS, Ward ___
J Dye wrote on 8/7/2024 10:37
AM:
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This came from Michigan Dark Skies. If you are
concerned about addressing light pollution in Ann Arbor, you might take
some of the proposed actions.
Jennifer
This Thursday, August 8 at 7pm, Ann
Arbor City Council will again review the LED streetlight conversion
project.? Thanks to your
feedback, they postponed the approval and asked staff to renegotiate
with DTE.? The materials were posted today, and show that their efforts
were unsuccessful.? Instead, DTE persuaded them that 58W LEDs are just
as bright as the existing 100W high-pressure sodium (HPS) lights.? This
is false and misleading.? The states:
the lumen output with shielding?(5,843 lumens) is the
more relevant value for comparison. This lumen output represents a 22%
reduction from?the 100W HPS baseline
This statement is false*.? Moreover, we
have field data that demonstrates that 58W LEDs are much brighter than
existing 100W HPS lights in Ann Arbor, and that the LEDs are 300-400%
brighter than the IES/ANSI national recommended standards in residential
neighborhoods.? DTE is manipulating the narrative to focus on lumens,
whereas the IES/ANSI standards are based on the brightness received on
the ground, i.e., footcandles (or lux).? The discussion needs to refocus
on getting Ann Arbor compliant with the ANSI standards.? These
standards are carefully developed by the lighting industry to consider
all uses, including pedestrians, bicycles, cars, etc.
We have 2 Action requests:
- Before the meeting this Thursday night:??we
need people to ?email
the City Council?to again protest the existing plan.?
Nothing has changed, except that DTE is misrepresenting the data: ? CityCouncil@...
If you know your Council reps, please also contact them
individually --.
- This Thursday, August 8, 7pm:???Is anyone interested in speaking up at the?session?at
the start of the meeting?? You can do so by zoom or phone or
in-person.? You?must call?734-794-6140?sign
up in advance on the day of the meeting.? The item is?, but you
don't have to stay for the Council discussion.? The?.?
Instructions and call-in numbers are on.? You can also
ask for the direct Zoom link. ??
Please let City Council know that you
are watching
and that you still care about this.? The City should focus on enabling
an alternative plan.? Please express concern that nothing has changed
since July 15 and feel free to reuse any of the information below in
your email to Council.
Many thanks -- let's do it again!
Sally Oey ?(she/her; ?)
University of Michigan, Department of Astronomy
323 West Hall,?1085 S. University Ave,?Ann Arbor, MI ?48109-1107 phone:
+1-734-936-7885,? fax: +1-734-763-6317
*The 5843 lumen value is the?visible?light
output, whereas the value used for the HPS baseline (7486 lumens) is
the?total?light
output that includes non-visible light (IR and UV).? The comparison is
apples to oranges: ?would you read a book by the light of your 1000-W
toaster oven?? It outputs a LOT more lumens than your light bulb.?
Standard HPS to LED that a standard 100W
HPS light should be replaced by a 30-ish W LED. ?
Also, shielding does not change the lumen
output, confirming that one can't compare values across columns in the
staff memo table.
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action requested on Ann Arbor City Council review of streetlights
This came from Michigan Dark Skies. If you are concerned about addressing light pollution in Ann Arbor, you might take some of the proposed actions.
Jennifer
This Thursday, August 8 at 7pm, Ann Arbor City Council will again review the LED streetlight conversion project.? Thanks to your
feedback, they postponed the approval and asked staff to renegotiate
with DTE.? The materials were posted today, and show that their efforts
were unsuccessful.? Instead, DTE persuaded them that 58W LEDs are just
as bright as the existing 100W high-pressure sodium (HPS) lights.? This
is false and misleading.? The states:
the lumen output with shielding?(5,843 lumens) is the more relevant value for comparison. This lumen output represents a 22% reduction from?the 100W HPS baseline
This statement is false*.? Moreover, we
have field data that demonstrates that 58W LEDs are much brighter than
existing 100W HPS lights in Ann Arbor, and that the LEDs are 300-400%
brighter than the IES/ANSI national recommended standards in residential
neighborhoods.? DTE is manipulating the narrative to focus on lumens,
whereas the IES/ANSI standards are based on the brightness received on
the ground, i.e., footcandles (or lux).? The discussion needs to refocus
on getting Ann Arbor compliant with the ANSI standards.? These
standards are carefully developed by the lighting industry to consider
all uses, including pedestrians, bicycles, cars, etc.
We have 2 Action requests:
- Before the meeting this Thursday night:??we need people to ?email the City Council?to again protest the existing plan.? Nothing has changed, except that DTE is misrepresenting the data: ? CityCouncil@...
If you know your Council reps, please also contact them individually --.
- This Thursday, August 8, 7pm:???Is anyone interested in speaking up at the?session?at the start of the meeting?? You can do so by zoom or phone or in-person.? You?must call?734-794-6140?sign up in advance on the day of the meeting.? The item is?, but you don't have to stay for the Council discussion.? The?.? Instructions and call-in numbers are on.? You can also ask for the direct Zoom link. ??
Please let City Council know that you are watching
and that you still care about this.? The City should focus on enabling
an alternative plan.? Please express concern that nothing has changed
since July 15 and feel free to reuse any of the information below in
your email to Council.
Many thanks -- let's do it again!
Sally Oey ?(she/her; ?)
University of Michigan, Department of Astronomy
323 West Hall,?1085 S. University Ave,?Ann Arbor, MI ?48109-1107 phone: +1-734-936-7885,? fax: +1-734-763-6317
*The 5843 lumen value is the?visible?light output, whereas the value used for the HPS baseline (7486 lumens) is the?total?light
output that includes non-visible light (IR and UV).? The comparison is
apples to oranges: ?would you read a book by the light of your 1000-W
toaster oven?? It outputs a LOT more lumens than your light bulb.?
Standard HPS to LED that a standard 100W HPS light should be replaced by a 30-ish W LED. ?
Also, shielding does not change the lumen
output, confirming that one can't compare values across columns in the
staff memo table.
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/7/2024 11:45am at First Bite on Main
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We tried the Broadway Cafe last week, 8 people attended.? The consensus was there was no reason to return given all the other options we have in town.
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Next week, we will return to First Bite (last visit 22 May 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at .
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First Bite
108 S. Main Street
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(Picture Courtesy of Annie Warnock via Google)
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/7/2024 11:45am at First Bite on Main
I plan to be there.
Michael Fried https://michaelfried.com
On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 01:18:53 PM EDT, Roy Richter via groups.io <richter@...> wrote:
We tried the Broadway Cafe last week, 8 people attended.? The consensus was there was no reason to return given all the other options we have in town.
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Next week, we will return to First Bite (last visit 22 May 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at .
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First Bite
108 S. Main Street
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(Picture Courtesy of Annie Warnock via Google)
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/7/2024 11:45am at First Bite on Main
Hoping to be there for lunch on Wednesday, with stories of the Farmers Market in Portland Oregon and the recent conference FOSSY 2024 that I went to there (heading home now). Ed On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 10:18?AM Roy Richter via groups.io <richter@...> wrote:
We tried the Broadway Cafe last week, 8 people attended. The consensus was there was no reason to return given all the other options we have in town.
Next week, we will return to First Bite (last visit 22 May 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown. Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here. You can see the menu in advance at .
First Bite
108 S. Main Street
(Picture Courtesy of Annie Warnock via Google)
-- Edward Vielmetti +1 734 330 2465 edward.vielmetti@...
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Re: Lunch This Wednesday 8/7/2024 11:45am at First Bite on Main
Planning to be there late
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On Aug 5, 2024, at 1:18?PM, Roy Richter via groups.io <richter@...> wrote:
? We tried the Broadway Cafe last week, 8 people attended.? The consensus was there was no reason to return given all the other options we have in town.
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Next week, we will return to First Bite (last visit 22 May 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at .
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First Bite
108 S. Main Street
<First Bite.jpg> <First Bite map.jpg> ?
(Picture Courtesy of Annie Warnock via Google)
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Lunch This Wednesday 8/7/2024 11:45am at First Bite on Main
We tried the Broadway Cafe last week, 8 people attended.? The consensus was there was no reason to return given all the other options we have in town.
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Next week, we will return to First Bite (last visit 22 May 2024) downtown on Main street, while we can still easily go downtown.? Please RSVP if you are planning on coming, since seating is somewhat tight here.? You can see the menu in advance at .
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First Bite
108 S. Main Street
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(Picture Courtesy of Annie Warnock via Google)
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Re: Lunch Next Wednesday 7/31/2024 11:45am at Broadway Cafe on Broadway
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2024, at 8:25 AM, Mike Fried via groups.io wrote:
I wiil be there.?
Mike
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 9:38 PM, Brian Rice
<berice53@...> wrote:
I plan to be there, too.
Last week, we met at Madras Masala, 6 people attended.? This week, we go to the Broadway Cafe for the first time.? It is close to the lower intersection of Broadway and Plymouth Rd.? Spencer found, scouted, and recommended this place.? It serves BeeBimBop.
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Please RSVP if you know your plans.? If you want to see the menu in advance, it is at .
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1139 Broadway
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Re: Lunch Next Wednesday 7/31/2024 11:45am at Broadway Cafe on Broadway
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 9:38 PM, Brian Rice <berice53@...> wrote: I plan to be there, too.
Last week, we met at Madras Masala, 6 people attended.? This week, we go to the Broadway Cafe for the first time.? It is close to the lower intersection of Broadway and Plymouth Rd.? Spencer found, scouted, and recommended this place.? It serves BeeBimBop.
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Please RSVP if you know your plans.? If you want to see the menu in advance, it is at .
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1139 Broadway
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Re: Lunch Next Wednesday 7/31/2024 11:45am at Broadway Cafe on Broadway
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Last week, we met at Madras Masala, 6 people attended.? This week, we go to the Broadway Cafe for the first time.? It is close to the lower intersection of Broadway and Plymouth Rd.? Spencer found, scouted, and recommended this place.? It serves BeeBimBop.
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Please RSVP if you know your plans.? If you want to see the menu in advance, it is at .
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1139 Broadway
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