On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 9:58 AM, Dan Pritts

<danno@...> wrote:

Another vote for big George’s, although I haven’t been 100% satisfied with their installers. ?

The topic came up on Reddit /r/AnnArbor within the last week as well. Big George had mixed reviews. ?Heydlauff had a few positive votes and no negatives ?that I remember.?

And yes, you’re right, a different brand of soap did not break your circuit board.?

Sent from phone, please excuse typos and/or brevity

On Aug 26, 2024, at 7:25?PM, mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:

?

True although they claim “no heavy perfumes”.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 7:04?PM, dan freidus via groups.io <freidus@...> wrote:

?

I've seen that but also noted that despite calling it "free & clear" Cascade does say that it's lemon-scented.

Dan

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 6:20?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:

Cascade Free & Clear ActionPacs is Wirecutter’s top pick for dishwasher detergent.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 5:23?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?

Hi, all,?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

And here's the vent.?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

--

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Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 7:25?PM, mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:

?

True although they claim “no heavy perfumes”.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 7:04?PM, dan freidus via groups.io <freidus@...> wrote:

?

I've seen that but also noted that despite calling it "free & clear" Cascade does say that it's lemon-scented.

Dan

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 6:20?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:

Cascade Free & Clear ActionPacs is Wirecutter’s top pick for dishwasher detergent.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 5:23?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?

Hi, all,?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

And here's the vent.?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

--

PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 7:04?PM, dan freidus via groups.io <freidus@...> wrote:

?

I've seen that but also noted that despite calling it "free & clear" Cascade does say that it's lemon-scented.

Dan

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 6:20?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:

Cascade Free & Clear ActionPacs is Wirecutter’s top pick for dishwasher detergent.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 5:23?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?

Hi, all,?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

And here's the vent.?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

--

PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

On 08/26/2024 6:04 PM EDT Mark Dobbie <mark.a.dobbie@...> wrote:

?

?

1. We’ve gotten great service from Heydlauff’s on this particular appliance and others. They show up when they say they’re going to.?

?

2. Dishwashers break a lot. I promise it’s not your soap. ??♂??

?

On Aug 26, 2024, at 5:23?PM, PF Anderson via groups.io <pfa@...> wrote:

Hi, all,?

?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

?

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

?

And here's the vent.?

?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

?

--

PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

Hi, all,?

?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

?

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

?

And here's the vent.?

?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

?

--

PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 5:23?PM, PF Anderson via groups.io <pfa@...> wrote:

?

Hi, all,?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

And here's the vent.?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

--

PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

On 08/26/2024 6:04 PM EDT Mark Dobbie <mark.a.dobbie@...> wrote:

?

?

1. We’ve gotten great service from Heydlauff’s on this particular appliance and others. They show up when they say they’re going to.?

?

2. Dishwashers break a lot. I promise it’s not your soap. ??♂??

?

On Aug 26, 2024, at 5:23?PM, PF Anderson via groups.io <pfa@...> wrote:

Hi, all,?

?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

?

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

?

And here's the vent.?

?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

?

--

PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 5:23?PM, PF Anderson via groups.io <pfa@...> wrote:

?

Hi, all,?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

And here's the vent.?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

--

PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 17:23, PF Anderson

<pfa@...> wrote:

Hi, all,?

This question is going to come in two parts.?

1) Is there an appliance store in town that includes *installation* of dishwashers??

2) I have been told by a repairman (but not one that inspires confidence) that the reason the dishwashers fail is because I am not using the officially approved soap from Cascade (which is because Cascade doesn't offer a scent-free variety and my household includes folk with?epipen-worthy fragrance allergies). So I'd appreciate either options for scent-free dishwasher packets that are better than "Seventh Generation", or a dishwasher recommendation that can cope with cheap gritty soap packets?

And here's the vent.?

I know the?soap isn't the problem this time, because the start button is sticking and the repair dude said it needs a new circuit board,?which would?cost more than buying a new washer. I figure I might as well see if anyone has helpful thoughts for the other problem before I try to buy a new?one.?

I've had horrific experiences buying from several (most recently Menard's and Maytag direct, previously Lowe's and Home Depot), and my patience with this is well past its expiration date. I buy the?dishwasher, I add installation, they schedule?delivery, then they show up and say there is no installation in my area.? I've lived here 26 years, and have had to replace the dishwasher 5 times. I used to be able to arrange installation, but the last two times I've tried to buy a new dishwasher, I've run into problems with that part, and it's a huge HUGE hassle. I'm a person with disabilities, and they expect to leave the dishwasher in my driveway and have me sort it out later. I tried that once, and the second time I tried returning it to the warehouse (after which it took several MONTHS to be reimbursed).?

The dishwasher that needs a new circuit board is a Maytag that was purchased in February 2019 with a 10-year-warranty, but I don't know that I want to fight the battle to try to get them to honor the warranty. Honestly, right now, I'm so fed up with Maytag, I wouldn't be happy with a replacement if they gave it to me for free. However, my son and I both have disabilities that make it basically impossible for us to do dishes by hand, so I need to find a solution. I'm kind of at my wit's end. I've spent a lot of hours over the past year trying to find a solution.?

Thoughts? THANK YOU in advance!?

/PF /Patricia /Pat?

--

PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?

ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324

Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable

My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.

The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.

On Aug 26, 2024, at 3:40?PM, Spencer W. Thomas <spencer@...> wrote:

?

Planning to attend, probably a bit late.

=Spencer

On 8/26/24 3:05 PM, Roy Richter via groups.io wrote:

Last week, we met at Evergreen Downtown, 6 people attended.? This week, we plan on going to York on Packard.? We were there last on 26 June 2024.??

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Please RSVP if you know your plans so we know how many seats to save.? Menus for each are available in advance at?,??and?.? I hope you can make it.

Forecast is in the mid-high 80's, so we will have an inside table.

York/Ricewood/Bao Boys
1928 Packard

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Last week, we met at Evergreen Downtown, 6 people attended.? This week, we plan on going to York on Packard.? We were there last on 26 June 2024.??

?

Please RSVP if you know your plans so we know how many seats to save.? Menus for each are available in advance at?,??and?.? I hope you can make it.

Forecast is in the mid-high 80's, so we will have an inside table.

York/Ricewood/Bao Boys
1928 Packard