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Expansion Track on eBay

 

For those in need of 8592 expansion tracks at a reasonable price, I found
some posted on eBay.

See item number 6034041223 (just copy that number into the search box).

I've done business with this seller before. He's OK.

Regards,
Bill K.
Houston


Re: Z Scale: Micro-Trains: Husky Stack

 

Correction--Thatz Timothy Buehring - I think it' Hobo Tim--
web sight is correct.
Fred

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Subject: [Z-Bend_Track] Z Scale: Micro-Trains: Husky Stack


Is there anyone offering Decal Set for MTL Husky Stack containers.
Aaron






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Re: Z Scale: Micro-Trains: Husky Stack

 

Aaron,
Sgt Tim, of TNT makes great decals at resonable price.
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Best,
Fred

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Aaron






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Z Scale: Micro-Trains: Husky Stack

Aaron Poscovsky
 

Is there anyone offering Decal Set for MTL Husky Stack containers.
Aaron


Micro-Trains Video NOW ONLINE from Springfield, Mass

Richard Einhorn
 

We have finished a ONLINE VIDEO segment that features Eric Smith, President
of Micro-Trains Lines.

This one is exclusively targeted to the Z scale community and was videotaped
at the train show
in Springfield Massachusetts.

Eric shows us the Santa Fe Geep, NEW Depressed Flat Car with Double Stacks
& the prototype Z scale switch that will be released this summer 2006.

Eric was very kind to give us this exclusive presentation for our web video
and tv show.

Thank You very much Eric, and a special thanks to Mike Hilliard and his NY
Metro Z Club,
for their efforts in sharing the hobby they love so much.

You must have a DSL, Cable or High Speed Connection.


On this page are some stills and links to the video (so you don't have to
hunt around!)
<>


Z Ya!

-richie


Re: Micro-Trains Z Gauge Switch, Turnout or Points

SJ-BAZ man
 

I don't see the Z turnout (and you don't even have an MT icon, only the text
link at the bottom).

Jeff

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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:18 PM
To: nyzmetromail@...; z_scale@...;
Z-Bend_Track@...
Subject: [Z-Bend_Track] Micro-Trains Z Gauge Switch, Turnout or Points


I have posted a photo on our website's front page of the Micro-Trains
Switch.
Feel free to copy it and post it to any of the Yahoo Albums.

-richie

www.TheTrainShow.com








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Micro-Trains Z Gauge Switch, Turnout or Points

Richard Einhorn
 

I have posted a photo on our website's front page of the Micro-Trains
Switch.
Feel free to copy it and post it to any of the Yahoo Albums.

-richie

www.TheTrainShow.com


Re: Micro-Trains Z Gauge Switch, Turnout or Points

 

Jeff:

I don't see the Z turnout (and you don't even have an MT icon, only the
text
link at the bottom).
Try this:


Bill K.
Houston


Thanks

Aaron Poscovsky
 

I am glad I asked about the 20 x 30. I was going to use the 20 x 30
inch board for another project, but starting thinking a z scale would
work. I go with plan B, a 2' x 4'.
Aaron


Re: would this work?

Howard Shute
 

A figure of eight plan would require either an over-and-under crossing or a 90 degree crossing which has been designed by Peter Wright and works very well. Using Marklin 145 mm radius curved track yields a diameter of about 12 inches and length of about 28 inches so your plan is marginal.

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Subject: [Z-Bend_Track] would this work?


I have a sheet 30" x 20" and was thinking about a firgure 8 for this
sheet. Can this be done?








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would this work?

Aaron Poscovsky
 

I have a sheet 30" x 20" and was thinking about a firgure 8 for this
sheet. Can this be done?


Re: would this work?

 

AJ:

I have a sheet 30" x 20" and was thinking about a figure 8 for this
sheet. Can this be done?
If you idea is for a flat and level figure 8, you'll have to work with Peter
Wright () to get a crossover made up for you.
Other than that, it can be done with off-the-shelf products.

Bill K.
Houston


Nn3 module standards use Z-Bend Track concepts

 

Hi All:

The new webpage for Nn3 standards () gives some
passing credit to the Z-Bend Track standard for the interface between modules.
I was at that National Train Show in 2001 in St. Louis. It was the first year
that Z-Bend Track was shown at an NTS.

As I recall, after fooling around all morning with cut pieces of track, the
Nn3 folks took note of how easy it was for the Z-Bend Track modules to
interconnect. Within minutes, every piece of 8592 expandable track the vendors had
brought with them was sold out and in-place on the Nn3 layout. <grin>

That's OK. We stole back a lot of visual images of what "good" track layouts
look like from their display.

Do note their "requirement" for a short piece of Marklin snap track at the
actual interface. Its a "recommended practice" with Z-Bend Track, not a
"requirement."

* Its easier to replace a 1" piece of damaged track, than a long piece of
flex track (if damage occurs)
* Marklin snap track seems to be built a lot stronger than Peco or MTL when
it comes to physical impact and stresses (every tieplate grips the rail and
doesn't allow the rail to slip)
* Some folks just plain have trouble cutting rails the same length...which
causes one rail to stick out a silly millimeter longer than the other...that
problem goes away with snap track which is precut.

The last issue is a non-issue, provided you remove the first and last
tie/sleeper on the 8592 track section, which allows all four rails to move
independently.

Regards,
Bill K.
Houston

- - - - text from the Nn3 website - - - -

Track on NVNTRAK Nn3 modules Track begins 55mm from the edge of modules with
a piece of Z-Scale Marklin 8503 (55mm piece) track at the end of all track
within the body of the module. When modules are clamped together the gap allows a
piece of Marklin 8592 (100-120mm flex piece) track to easily slip into place,
making a smooth connection between pieces of Marklin track. Peco Z-scale
flex-track is used within the module between the Marklin 8503 pieces at either end
of the module.

We adopted this use of Marklin 8503 track after seeing the advantages of
having the Marklin piece in position to receive connecting track on Mike
Chenowith.s Nn3 oNeTRAK modules at the St. Louis NMRA meet in 2001, and Steve Zutter.s
discovery of the Marklin 8592 connector based on conversations with Z-modular
groups at the same convention.


Re: Z-Bend Track Modules - Painted track and Track Cleaning

SJ-BAZ man
 

I only use the 70% alcohol even though I have 90 and 100% available to me,
unless it is unpainted.

Many in our group use Rail Zip ( the pink stuff) which says you have to wipe
it off the tracks after cleaning ! We use lint-free wipes or a push stick.

I STRONGLY discourage sand paper, even 800 grit (normally used wet for
polishing glass, available in most paint and hardware stores and is black).
It simply takes too much rail off, slowly lowering your track. One may
notice that Marklin's steam engines are barely, and I mean 1000th's of an
inch off the top of the turnouts. And that is DEFINITELY what you'll take
off EACH time you sand. Simply look at a rail joint where it likely will be
dirtier, especially after weeks or months of not running or, after a club or
show run. Put your sand paper on a FLAT piece of stock and slide it a few
times over the joint area (like /- 3") and look carefully how you slowly
reach cleaning the "dip" in the joint area will only take a few stokes or
dozen strokes. To get there, you had to take off the surrounding rail
surface !

Stick to light AND SAFE chemicals !!! DO NOT EVER USE GASOLINE OR ETHYL /
METHYL ALCOHOL as it is too flammable, especially the alcohols which you
cannot see burning !

Jeff
SJ Bay Area Z
the "BAZ BoyZ"

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:38 AM
To: Z-Bend_Track@...
Subject: [Z-Bend_Track] Z-Bend Track Modules - Painted track and Track
Cleaning


Hi All:

It hasn't gone unnoticed that a LOT of Z-Bend Track folks are starting to
paint their track and ties/sleepers. And it REALLY looks good.

However, it does bring up an issue when it comes to track cleaning. In
the
past, with only your own home layout to consider, any satisfactory
solution
that removed the oxides and oils off the track...but didn't remove the
paint on
the rail...was a great solution.

But what about at shows? Rails can be painted with a wide, wide range of
paints, both water and solvent based. What affects will your favorite
cleaner
have on someone else's unknown paint on the rails?

It sure would be a sad feeling to see your "perfect" solution strip the
paint
off someone else's rails.

This summer at the National Train Show, I noted a number of "favorite"
cleaners in folk's toolboxes. If search the Rec.Models.Railroad newgroup,
you'll
find "hits" on the following "favorite cleaners" folks out there use:

Bright Boy (abrasive rubber cleaner)
Sandpaper
Razor blades (as a scraper)
Alcohol 70%
Alcohol 90%
Lighter Fluid
Charcoal lighter fluid
Automotive degreasers (various kinds)
Goo Gone
Goof Off
Balsa wood sticks
White pine sticks
Various brands of "track cleaners" sold in model shops
Gasoline (yes, gasoline)
Lacquer thinner and Acetone (now that's frightening, those will even
dissolve
ties)

Some of the "favorite" products I saw at the NTS were clearly marked on
the
container: "removes paint." It didn't go unnoticed that the owners of the
products also had modules without painted track. So for them, it probably
would
be a perfectly acceptable cleaner.

Now, I'm not about to recommend you change the combinations or chemical
you
use at home on your own layout or modules. If it works, and you like it,
please continue to use it.

But I will suggest you consider 70% alcohol on a lint-free cotton rag (or
coffee filters) for shows, even if you don't prefer it at home. In the
many
years on this list (and my 40 years in the hobby) I've not heard of any
interaction between 70% alcohol and anyone's painted rails.

Interesting enough, 90% alcohol is commonly used as a paint stripper, so
I'd
not recommend that concentration.

Alternative suggestions are encouraged for posting.

Regards,
Bill K.
Houston






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Z-Bend Track Modules - Painted track and Track Cleaning

 

Hi All:

It hasn't gone unnoticed that a LOT of Z-Bend Track folks are starting to
paint their track and ties/sleepers. And it REALLY looks good.

However, it does bring up an issue when it comes to track cleaning. In the
past, with only your own home layout to consider, any satisfactory solution
that removed the oxides and oils off the track...but didn't remove the paint on
the rail...was a great solution.

But what about at shows? Rails can be painted with a wide, wide range of
paints, both water and solvent based. What affects will your favorite cleaner
have on someone else's unknown paint on the rails?

It sure would be a sad feeling to see your "perfect" solution strip the paint
off someone else's rails.

This summer at the National Train Show, I noted a number of "favorite"
cleaners in folk's toolboxes. If search the Rec.Models.Railroad newgroup, you'll
find "hits" on the following "favorite cleaners" folks out there use:

Bright Boy (abrasive rubber cleaner)
Sandpaper
Razor blades (as a scraper)
Alcohol 70%
Alcohol 90%
Lighter Fluid
Charcoal lighter fluid
Automotive degreasers (various kinds)
Goo Gone
Goof Off
Balsa wood sticks
White pine sticks
Various brands of "track cleaners" sold in model shops
Gasoline (yes, gasoline)
Lacquer thinner and Acetone (now that's frightening, those will even dissolve
ties)

Some of the "favorite" products I saw at the NTS were clearly marked on the
container: "removes paint." It didn't go unnoticed that the owners of the
products also had modules without painted track. So for them, it probably would
be a perfectly acceptable cleaner.

Now, I'm not about to recommend you change the combinations or chemical you
use at home on your own layout or modules. If it works, and you like it,
please continue to use it.

But I will suggest you consider 70% alcohol on a lint-free cotton rag (or
coffee filters) for shows, even if you don't prefer it at home. In the many
years on this list (and my 40 years in the hobby) I've not heard of any
interaction between 70% alcohol and anyone's painted rails.

Interesting enough, 90% alcohol is commonly used as a paint stripper, so I'd
not recommend that concentration.

Alternative suggestions are encouraged for posting.

Regards,
Bill K.
Houston


Re: [Z_Scale] Marklin Expansion Track

 

Don:

Great questions. Some of the solutions we use down South are:

1 what is the proper way to grab the track or ties when I want to
make a disconnection??
We use curved needle nose pliers to gently pull the expansion track rails out
of the rail joiner (which stays with the stationary track). Pull one rail
out at time. If you have removed the first and last tie/sleeper from the
expansion track then all four rails will move independently (very high recommended).

2 What do you do or how do you do any ballasting in the area of both
the track that moves and also the mating track so you can hook onto
the track connectors?? I assume you have to be able to lift the
mating track slightly so you cn attach the expansion track.
The cork under the expansion track should be 1/16" lower than the cork under
the fixed track. You can sand down the cork, or use cork of a different
thickness for the 2 and 1/8" setback. The expansion track will not bow up if you
do this. The expansion track should NEVER be lifted up vertically for any
reason while its connected to fixed track. That could deform the rail joiners
and/or the expansion track itself. Or even put stress on the fixed track.
Always keep the insertion/removal forces horizontal. Only lift the expansion track
after all four rails are free.

This 1/16" lowered area includes any ballast you may have on the cork. Here's
some thoughts that may help:

* Use a fine mesh sifter to get just some fine "ballast dust" from the
ballast you use on the fixed track. Paint a thin coating of white glue on the
lowered cork (where the expansion track goes) and dust the glue with the "ballast
dust." No one is likely to notice the absence of ballast between the ties if
the roadbed is the identical color and texture to the ballasted track next to
it.

* If you are good artist, just mix up a batch of paint that matches your
ballast color and paint the cork where the expansion track goes. Again, the
color match completes the illusion.

3 How many ties back do you keep loose [i.e. not affixed to the
roadbed cork]
None. There should be just enough "free rail" to get the rail joiner on, and
the first tie/sleeper should be glued down just like all the rest of the
ties/sleepers on the fixed track.

Suggestion: If you are concerned about track damage to the very end of your
fixed track (that CAN happen at setups) then make the last inch of your fixed
track out of a short one inch piece of Marklin snap track. Its tie plates
grip the track more firmly than flex track (of any brand) and take abuse better.
If it gets damaged, just replace the last inch of track, not a whole stick of
flex track that's glued down and hard to work with.

4 Do you do anything to the rail connectors to make the connections
easier?
Rail joiners by: Peco, Atlas (code 55) and Micro Engineering (code 55). The
insulated rail joiners by these folks are MUCH cheaper than those from
Marklin as well as being much stronger and easier to work with. Once you ballast
your track, all rail joiners (insulated or not) tend to disappear.

And make a tool make for installing rail joiners. See the Z_Bend_Track Yahoo
group for the who-to-make-one PDF file.

Does any of this help?
Bill K.
Houston


zttrak

 

I started a new group for those interested in doing some z t-trak modules. It is at . If you know of any proposed standards, post it there.


Re: Peco rail ...definitely at Walthers

 

Walthers has a hobby shop in the front of the huge warehouse, and they
will be more than happy to assist you. Their number is 414-461-1050.
Talk to Chris or Jerry and tell them Dave the pharmacist told you to
call. You won't get a deal, but you will get great service.

They always have PECO joiners in stock when I go, and they even broke
down a box of PECO flex track because I only wanted one piece to
compare it to Microtrains. Microtrains flex is still the best for
cigar box layouts- it flex's better on real tight curves.

Another member of our group states that the Atlas code 55 track
joiners are better than PECO's. I think this is under N scale track,
but I could look it up for you if need be. I have a package, but have
not tried it yet.

Dave H.


Re: Peco rail joiners

Robin
 

I get my Peco track from the Hobby Smith in Portland, Oregon. Web
address is www.hobbysmith.com

Thanks, Robin


--- In Z-Bend_Track@..., "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@u...>
wrote:

--- In Z-Bend_Track@..., Bill K. wrote:
.
.
.
- Use Peco rail joiners, not Marklin or MTL, on the modules.
Bill (or anyone),

Please reveal a reliable source for Peco track and joiners. My
local hobby shops are woefully
inadequate and I can't find an Internet source with confirmed
stock.

Thanks,
Gary


Frappr maps and Z-Bend Track followers

 

Hi all:

Google offers a map service which enables folks to put a "push pin"
in a world map showing where you live. One of those fun things in
life.

You might be surprised how close you live to other Z-Bend Track
modelers.

No personal information is required or requested. No spam will
result.

If you have a favorite photo, you can add that, too.

Chick here:

Happy New Year,
Bill K.
Houston