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From Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter, Barnsley's borough archives have been made available on family history website Ancestry... It is the first time the material has been accessible digitally and means researchers no longer have to visit the archives in person. It is hoped the records will provide "a rich source of information" and "a fascinating glimpse" into the lives and struggles of ordinary people. The Barnsley Archives and Local Studies [https://www.experience-barnsley.com/our-archives] service supplied 100,000 entries from baptism, marriage and burial registers to Ancestry, as well as transcriptions of more than a million cases heard in Barnsley Magistrates' Court between 1841 and 1923. The two databases were collated and can now be viewed by Ancestry users worldwide. The parish registers include more than 100 different churches and chapels that existed across the Barnsley area. The colourful court records detail the petty criminals charged over matters such as theft, poaching and drunkenness. The archives were previously only available to browse at Barnsley Town Hall.

Hi I would welcome your thoughts in finding Thomas FLETCHER’s baptism in 1756. Below is what I know: When I found the baptism for my 4x Gt Grandfather Thomas FLETCHER bap 1782 at Sherburn in Elmet, Yorks. it contained such a lot of ancestral information below: ‘Thomas 2nd son of Thomas of Bishop-dikeside Labourer son of William of Barlow farmer by Mary his wife, daughter of ….. (presumably unknown to the registrar) Mary daughter of John Dent of Little Fenton farmer by Ann his wife daughter of Joseph Jaqueman of Bramham - Gardener Born Sunday 27th January 1782 Baptised Monday 11th February’ I found his parent’s marriage: Thomas FLETCHER of Birchin (Birkin?) & Mary DENT of Sherburn (in Elmet) married 30 Jan 1778 by Licence with consent of parents. Knowing that Thomas’ father was William I searched for a baptism for Thomas. I could not find an obvious baptism for Thomas about 1756. There was one baptism for Thomas whose father was William, 21 Feb 1722 Sherburn in Elmet. Rather early I think. Thomas would have been an older man when he married Mary DENT who needed her parent’s consent to marry. It is possible that Mary was Thomas’ 2nd wife. Of course, he could have required looking after later in life and Mary may have been his ‘housekeeper’ but Mary gave birth to Thomas Jnr in 1782. I found several baptisms around 1753-1761 with father William. One included mother Mary at Lythe. 17 Feb 1760. The others were in Birstall, Ecclesfield, Luddenden, Barnsley. Yesterday, Ancestry came up with 1758 Rothwell , father Robert. Today it is suggesting William FLETCHER & Mary THRESH are his parents and they married 21 Nov 1742 Wm bap either 1718 Brayton OR 12 Oct 1718 Sherburn in Elmet, Yorks. I found Thomas Snr on the 1841 census living with a son Matthew and his grandchildren. So I then found a baptism for Matthew. Another breakthrough as it gave the same details of his ancestry matching his brother Thomas Jnr bap 1782. Then I found another 9 bap for Thomas & Mary DENT. So I had found the correct Thomas in 1841 which meant I found a death record for him. Thanks to digital GRO records I had both Thomas & Mary’s death records within minutes! From his death & burial records I am certain that Thomas was definitely born in 1756. I would welcome thoughts in finding his baptism in 1756. Thinking about possible parents of Thomas Snr: William FLETCHER & Mary THRESH married 21 Nov 1742. Their burials are at Brayton. Wm was a farmer of Barlow, as also mentioned in Thomas Jnr ’s bap. and Mary was wife of Wm of BARLOW, farmer & dau of Wm THRESH. BUT still I cannot find a bap for Thomas 1756. I did find 2 bap at Wessell with Wm as father 1752 & 1748. Since the burials match the info to bap of grandson Thomas Jnr 1782 I think I have found the correct Wm & Mary BUT no evidence of their children OR more importantly Thomas. Margaret

I am reading this book (see below) I thought I would mention Evelyn (Eve) APPLEYARD She was the second wife of Joe HOBBS who owned several distilleries, the Great Glen Cattle Ranch and Inverlochy Castle Hotel. She was born in Bawtry, near Doncaster, in 1900. So I thought she might be of interest to someone here. She was the elder of two daughters of George Henry (Harry) SNOW, a coachman and his wife Flora. They moved to London before the 1911 Census, with Harry still working as a coachman and living in Kensington. She travelled back and forth between England, Scotland and Canada. There is more in the book and probably online. Not Your Average Joe A Biography of Joseph William Hobbs (1891–1963), Whisky Entrepreneur by Tim Smith Released: 28th August, 2024Format: Paperback, eBook ISBN: 9781805144250 eISBN: 9781836286417 Joseph William HobbsJoe Hobbs Family Tree Matching Person details Spouse Mabel Della Bush Father Joseph William Hobbs Mother Elizabeth Jane Morgan Children Mabel Patricia Birth 29 Jan 1891 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England Death 19 Aug 1963 Inverlochy, Inverness-shire, Scotland Residence 1935 Aldford, Cheshire, England https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/181836871/person/192365265402/facts?_phsrc=wkz2727&_phstart=successSource Martin Briscoe martin@... Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507), MyHeritage MH-4MN878 https://sites.google.com/view/edmund-otoole-vc/

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Hi listers, I live in Australia and would like to search the registers for births (1641-1837), marriages (1650-1836), and deaths (1656-1837). for the Brighouse Quakers, but as they are held in West Yorkshire archives, makes it impossible for me to search. I am interested in finding a Hannah HOLMES born in 1771 to Joseph and Magdalene. She married John FARRER in 1798 in Ilkley but not sure where it took place. I have all their children and her husband death being registered in Bradford Quakers. If by chance anyone could help with either having the records or perhaps visiting the Archives soon, it would be appreciated. Thanks, Maureen in Oz

Hello everyone, I was once told that for a child to be baptized at a particular church, the family either had to have lived within the parish or have a strong connection to the parish. That person was someone I had reason to trust, but it also makes sense to me. For the sake of the following, I hope it’s true. I have some common surnames for the Saddleworth area, so I follow any and all possibilities. The one in question in this case is WHITEHEAD. There is a William WHITEHEAD, who I’ve been following for years as a possible uncle. My William was born in 1810 in Saddleworth to John and Mary WHITEHEAD. After Mary died young, John and most of the kids moved to Stalybridge. One of the sons was James WHITEHEAD*, who I found in Stalybridge in 1841. Next door was William WHITEHEAD, who was in the correct age range and not born in Lancashire, so I was hopeful. He also had the same occupation as John, John’s sons, and grandsons. William’s first 3 children were baptized at St. Chad’s in Uppermill. In 1851, William’s age was perfect – 41. The disappointing part was that he was born in Stalybridge. [*I’m certain that James is John’s son. I ordered John’s death registration and James was the informant, and his street address correct.] Since I’ve had other cases where the birth place was the place where the person lived rather than where they were born, it didn’t bother me at first. Although I’ve invested time and money into this William, I have also kept notes detailing why he might not be the correct man. I like to error check periodically as new records are available, so I started going back over this branch last week. I included Family Search in my search. Yesterday I saw that someone else is also following this William as the son of Benjamin and Elizabeth WHITEHEAD, who was baptized in Dukinfield on 27 Sep 1811. It could be correct. I have reservations because that is also not a perfect fit. His age would have been wrong on the 1851 Census and his death registration. William’s occupation and proximity to James WHITEHEAD in 1841 can easily be written off as coincidental. But what about his children’s baptisms? According to the person who added his to a FamilySearch.org tree, neither branch of his family has a connection to Saddleworth. If that is true, then why would he have 3 children baptized there? Any ideas? I can handle negative feedback. ? My objective is accuracy. Regards, Diane

Only 2 new surnames added this month: BIRD CHILD If you would like to add your surname(s) to the list, please use the form at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/submit.htm **PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY REGARDING SUBMISSION OF NAMES BEFORE HITTING THE SUBMIT BUTTON Lin Duke Yorkshire Surnames List Administrator https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/index.htm

Hi Listers, I need help in my searching. I am trying to find William FARRER b.1758 (maybe) ) and his brother Joseph b. 1764 Parents were Henry FARRER and Sussanah FARRER married in Bradford Cathedral in 1757 Children were. William b. 1758 John b.1759 in Bradford Benjamin b.1761 in Bradford Christiana b.1762 in Bradford Joseph b. 1764 ibn Bradford. Henry and Sussanah lived in Apple Hall in Barkerend near Bradford and were comfortably off. Then in 1784 Henry left and went to London and became a fruit seller in Spitalfield Market. He had another 5 sons to his housekeeper and even though his wife was still living in Bradford. Henry wrote a will in 1795 (which I have a copy) saying he was leaving his house in Bradford to his wife and various money to his five children, in this order, William, John, Benjamin, Joseph and Christiana, He died in1800. Sussanah his wife in Bradford died in 1818 but no will. Maybe he assumed they were all still alive as maybe there wouldnt be any contact. I found a William FARRER b. in 1758 to Henry in Guiseley. Farrers were all from there originally but not sure if this one is mine as Henry and Sussanah were living in Eccleshill at the time of their marriage and birth of the other children. I only have found Joseph’s baptism in Bradford Cathedral but nothing else. There is a few marriages with Joseph to various people but he would have been about 30 so not sure again if this is him. Sussanah was nee JOBSON who had money and most of her brothers didnt marry so her father and brothers wrote wills - 1759, 1770 and 1784 and neither William or Joseph were mentioned, whereas John b. 1759 was and then in 1784, Benjamin. Christiana and John were mentioned. Then the last Jobson who died 1826 in his will all the estate went to Benjamin. Hope the above isnt too confusing. Maureen in Oz.

Hi All; I had a chuckle when I read today that Thomas Whitehead: b ca 1783 in either Saddleworth (resided here) or Anston, Yorkshire, was listed as a Quack Surgeon. If I have the correct Thomas in 1841 he was a Butcher. Being a butcher I believe is plausible to becoming a surgeon at least in that time-frame. However, never saw the term Quack used with it. Nothing comes up in search for "quack surgeon" except references to what I believe is a video game: "Quack Surgeon is a Charisma-based perk in Fallout 76" All thoughts, suggestions welcomed. Fran in Canada

Hi Listers, I am trying to track down David HAGUE b.1788 in Guiseley in either the 1851 census or the 1871 census. I know there are a lot of them around, but his wife was Elizabeth and the was a papermaker. Two of their children were Christiana b. 1807 and John b. 1819 in Guiseley both unmarried. Thanks, Maureen in Oz.

New surnames added this month: COATES DOCKERTY HAMMOND PEARSON POUNDER If you would like to add your surname(s) to the list, please use the form at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/submit.htm **PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY REGARDING SUBMISSION OF NAMES BEFORE HITTING THE SUBMIT BUTTON Lin Duke Yorkshire Surnames List Administrator https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/index.htm

Looks like House Nurse to me. On 25/06/2024 8:57 am, barry woolner via groups.io wrote:

I am trying to track down Robert LIEVESLEY b. 1817 to William and Harriett LIEVESLEY. in Leeds He could have married in Canada circa 1850 to Elizabeth FRASER, but cant find his immigration from UK. I have found them in the 1855 New York Census. Thanks, Maureen inb Oz

Hi Listers, I am trying to track down, William Farrer LIEVESLEY b. 1796 in Leeds. His parents were John LIEVESLEY and Sarah FARRER. Have found a William LIEVESLEY but not with the middle name Farrer. I would think he would have used this in marriage etc. Cant find anything else on a William LIEVESLEY with Farrer as a middle name. Thanks, Maureen in Oz.

Hi I have just rejoined the group and hope someone can help me. I am trying to find a plan of the churchyard at St James Tong, Yorks but not having much luck so far. Margaret Sent from Mail for Windows

New surnames added this month: BOLEYN, (BOYLING, BOILING, BYLIN, BOYLYNN) BROADLEY HEPTON OUTHET (OUTHWAITE) If you would like to add your surname(s) to the list, please use the form at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/submit.htm **PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY REGARDING SUBMISSION OF NAMES BEFORE HITTING THE SUBMIT BUTTON Lin Duke Yorkshire Surnames List Administrator https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/index.htm

Help!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for quite sometime for my Grandparents place of burial. I have looked on Ancestry, Find My Past, My Heritage, Family search, to no avail. They were living in Stocksbridge at the time of their death, Ellen ASHTON died 1957, Laurance ASHTON died 1959, some family members are either buried, married, christened at Holy Trinity Thurgoland I just thought that they maybe there but no luck. If anyone comes across these names if you could drop me a line where, I would be truly grateful. (I might even remember you at Christmas)? thank you for any help, Brynda P.S there was a daughter that died in 1925 Elizabeth in Grenoside Hospital.

I have seen a person listed in Baines Directory in 1822 in the Hull area as an “underwriter”, and would appreciate some local advice about what this occupation would have been, there and at that time. I doubt that he was involved in insurance or investments, but can not rule these out. Ken Harrison