WILSON West Leeds 1800 to 1900

Barry Wilson All Messages By This Member #39 Josiah Wilson born Oct 1856.? Richmond Court (Banks area). My GGF.? Having trouble confirming his parents, John Wilson (B 1822) (my GGGF) and Ann Wilson (nee Akeroyd B:1823).? Problem: John and Ann married 1841, first child 1856? Unusually long time.? Can't find records of any other children alive/dead. Maybe John in Gaol, Military, Sailor, can't find any records.? Also John's father (Thomas Wilson, my GGGGF) listed as "Hairdresser".? Not sure he was doing coiffure in those days, so maybe something to do with cloth making etc? Any ideas?? Many Thanks,? Barry Wilson Queensland Australia.?
Lin All Messages By This Member #41 Hi Barry This is Josiah's birth registration from GRO (General Record Office) ?Registered 1856 Dec Q Leeds, mother's maiden name AKEROYD, VOL 9b Page 302 ? This one may also be connected John William 1859 Mar Q Leeds, mother's maiden name AKEROYD Vol 9b Page 367 I couldn't find any others using the surname WILSON mother's maiden name AKED Just a thought - have you looked into the possibility that John married two women called AKEROYD?? I've come across similar couples where this has happened which could explain the long gap. Lin
Barry Wilson All Messages By This Member #43 Thanks Lin,? I have copy birth certs for 3 brothers, Josiah 1856, John William 1859, Harry 1862.? All show John as father (Dyer or Dyer's Labourer) and Ann Wilson (nee Akeroyd) as mother.? ?From other sources, docs and census etc, this Josiah is 100% my GGF.? In the 1851 Census, there is Ann Akeroyd living in the household of Elizabeth Akeroyd (Widow). But if she married in 1841 to John Wilson, why use her maiden name in 1851.?? In the same 1851 census, there is a John Wilson, Living with sister, Mary Ann Wilson, in Richmond Court (this is where Josiah is born in 1856).? In the 1861 census there is a Josiah Wilson, 4years, Grandson, living with Elizabeth Akeroyd, (Ann's mother?) in Burley St West Leeds. In the same census Ann Wilson, Living with Josiah Wilson, in Baker St West Leeds, just around the corner. With Josiah (4) and John William (2). I was suspecting 2 x Wilson families, with John and Ann as parent, and Josiah as first born in 1856.? But extensive searching and investigation does NOT show any other Josiahs born anywhere in Leeds in 20 year period, there's only ONE of them.? So maybe you are correct Lin, there looks like there could be 2 x Ann Akeroyd. Or it could be one big mixed up family.? Barry Wilson Queensland (no fires here at present)? toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 11 Jan. 2020 09:47, Lin Duke <dml5481@...> wrote: Hi Barry This is Josiah's birth registration from GRO (General Record Office) ?Registered 1856 Dec Q Leeds, mother's maiden name AKEROYD, VOL 9b Page 302 ? This one may also be connected John William 1859 Mar Q Leeds, mother's maiden name AKEROYD Vol 9b Page 367 I couldn't find any others using the surname WILSON mother's maiden name AKED Just a thought - have you looked into the possibility that John married two women called AKEROYD?? I've come across similar couples where this has happened which could explain the long gap. Lin
Rosemary All Messages By This Member #54 Hairdresser = barber? Rosemary rosemary@... toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 10/01/2020 21:40, adsl5j3w@... wrote: Also John's father (Thomas Wilson, my GGGGF) listed as "Hairdresser". Not sure he was doing coiffure in those days, so maybe something to do with cloth making etc? Any ideas?
Chris1943 All Messages By This Member #55 I see no reason why he should not be a hairdresser. My ggggrandfather was a hairdresser/wigmaker/perfumier in Sheffield in the 1830s. His son was also a hairdresser? aa was HIS son. The old man became latterly a pyrotechnist giving firework displays. In addition there? are many references in literature to hairdressers who normally visited clients houses rather than having a shop?
Mel Smith #56 I can think of a couple of answers Why did she use her maiden name in 1851 Possibly the enumerator asked who is liveinh here and Elizabeth responded with myself and my daughter Ann without stating her married name Alternatively I have a family where the father died in 1879 and in the 1881 census the mother used her maiden name and the entire family is listed under that name in spite of it not being their registered surname.? As for two Josiah's - It's possible that Josiah was actually staying overnight of for a few days with his grandmother so he is listed with her AND the parents also included him with their family group in spite of the fact that he was not there that specific night. I have seen that in several cases where people were enumertaed twice in different residences. Mel Smith toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 22:32, <adsl5j3w@...> wrote: Thanks Lin,? I have copy birth certs for 3 brothers, Josiah 1856, John William 1859, Harry 1862.? All show John as father (Dyer or Dyer's Labourer) and Ann Wilson (nee Akeroyd) as mother.? ?From other sources, docs and census etc, this Josiah is 100% my GGF.? In the 1851 Census, there is Ann Akeroyd living in the household of Elizabeth Akeroyd (Widow). But if she married in 1841 to John Wilson, why use her maiden name in 1851.?? In the same 1851 census, there is a John Wilson, Living with sister, Mary Ann Wilson, in Richmond Court (this is where Josiah is born in 1856).? In the 1861 census there is a Josiah Wilson, 4years, Grandson, living with Elizabeth Akeroyd, (Ann's mother?) in Burley St West Leeds. In the same census Ann Wilson, Living with Josiah Wilson, in Baker St West Leeds, just around the corner. With Josiah (4) and John William (2). I was suspecting 2 x Wilson families, with John and Ann as parent, and Josiah as first born in 1856.? But extensive searching and investigation does NOT show any other Josiahs born anywhere in Leeds in 20 year period, there's only ONE of them.? So maybe you are correct Lin, there looks like there could be 2 x Ann Akeroyd. Or it could be one big mixed up family.? Barry Wilson Queensland (no fires here at present)? On 11 Jan. 2020 09:47, Lin Duke <dml5481@...> wrote: Hi Barry This is Josiah's birth registration from GRO (General Record Office) ?Registered 1856 Dec Q Leeds, mother's maiden name AKEROYD, VOL 9b Page 302 ? This one may also be connected John William 1859 Mar Q Leeds, mother's maiden name AKEROYD Vol 9b Page 367 I couldn't find any others using the surname WILSON mother's maiden name AKED Just a thought - have you looked into the possibility that John married two women called AKEROYD?? I've come across similar couples where this has happened which could explain the long gap. Lin -- Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada
[email protected] #71 Hairdresser can also refer to the person 'dressing' horse hair for use in furniture making. Diane de.wilson@... toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Probert Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 3:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yorksgen] #SURNAMES WILSON West Leeds 1800 to 1900 Hairdresser = barber? Rosemary rosemary@... On 10/01/2020 21:40, adsl5j3w@... wrote: Also John's father (Thomas Wilson, my GGGGF) listed as "Hairdresser". Not sure he was doing coiffure in those days, so maybe something to do with cloth making etc? Any ideas?
Nivard Ovington All Messages By This Member #73 A hair man possibly but a hairdresser cut hair ie a barber Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 12/01/2020 19:04, bellmail wrote: Hairdresser can also refer to the person 'dressing' horse hair for use in furniture making. Diane
Judy Schor #74 Hi Wilson descendants, My William WILSON comes from Scotland (maybe) and died aft 1794. He married Esther (--?--) and they had James WILSON, my 4th great grandfather, who was born 7 Feb 1781 in Leeds and died 29 Jun 1865 in Peru, Clinton, NY, USA. James married Elizabeth BURROW, born 14 Nov 1787 in Roundhay, Yorks, died 19 Apr 1825 in Peru, NY, USA. They had eight children, the second of whom is my 3rd great grandmother, Sarah WILSON, born 22 Jan 1811 in Leeds, died 21 Nov 1874 in Plattsburgh, Clinton, NY, USA. Sarah married 1828/29 in (Peru), Clinton Co., NY, Lyman BRIDGES. I would love to hear from anyone who is related to these folks. I have lots of info on them. Judy St. Eve Schor Kirkland, WA USA toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: bellmail <de.wilson@...> To: Yorksgen <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2020 11:12 am Subject: Re: [yorksgen] #SURNAMES WILSON West Leeds 1800 to 1900 Hairdresser can also refer to the person 'dressing' horse hair for use in furniture making. Diane de.wilson@... -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Probert Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 3:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yorksgen] #SURNAMES WILSON West Leeds 1800 to 1900 Hairdresser = barber? Rosemary rosemary@... On 10/01/2020 21:40, adsl5j3w@... wrote: > > Also John's father (Thomas Wilson, my GGGGF) listed as "Hairdresser".? Not > sure he was doing coiffure in those days, so maybe something to do with > cloth making etc? Any ideas?

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WILSON West Leeds 1800 to 1900