Maureen
The easiest way to order birth and death certificates prior to 1924 at least is to use the GRO's own search at
If you do the search for Ann Whitley died 1875 in Bradford it will fail
But change the option to "phonetically similar variations" for the surname you will find her
She is indexed by the GRO as WHITTEY (You can suggest a change to that )
Once you have found her there Click on the dot beside her name and you can order the digital certificate for ?3
Remember that the indexes here are totally independent of those on any other site
Most of the others are taken from one of the many microfiche versions of the old paper indexes
The digital version as in the GRO's new indexes were taken from new images of the original records submitted to them
Regards
John Hanson FSG
Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust -
Research website -
And my own study of FOSKER
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Maureen Farrer Sent: 07 November 2024 00:42 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Death Index Thanks Nivard, did sort it all out and have ordered the will. I also have on my tree a family spelt WHITELY, so that was my confusion. Still cant get the death certificate for Ann WHITLEY even though I have all the right details. I have had this happen before and wrote to GRO to tell them but no reply. Regards, Maureen
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Thanks Nivard, did sort it all out and have ordered the will. I also have on my tree a family spelt WHITELY, so that was my confusion.
Still cant get the death certificate for Ann WHITLEY even though I have all the right details. I have had this happen before and wrote
to GRO to tell them but no reply.
Regards,
Maureen
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Thanks John,?
Have sorted it out and ordered the will.
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Regards,
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Maureen
You need to be careful when entering the dates and be careful because
the first date required is the date of probate which is 19 Oct 1869
the second date is the date of death 13 Sep 1869
Also make sure that what you enter is EXACTLY what is on the probate not what you think it should be
Regards
John Hanson FSG
Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust -
Research website -
And my own study of FOSKER
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Maureen Farrer Sent: 06 November 2024 20:56 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Death Index thanks John will try again. As when I tried before I put the month in as they said as 09 but it came back wrong, but will give it another go. Regards, Maureen On 6 Nov 2024, at 10:20?pm, John Hanson via groups.io <john.hanson@...> wrote:
Maureen
For wills post 1858 the best place is
Cost ?1.50 and normally less than a week to be notified of the
download being available
Make sure that you order both the will and the grant - grant tells you
exactly who were the executors and the details of the death
Regards
John Hanson FSG
Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the
Halsted Trust - Research website -
And my own study of FOSKER
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Maureen
Farrer
Sent: 06 November 2024 10:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Death Index
Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs.
Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield.
Maureen
On 6 Nov 2024, at 7:36?pm, Nivard Ovington via groups.io <ovington.one@...> wrote:
Note slight spelling difference
WHITELEY, ANN 23
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B
Page
49
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
On 06/11/2024 08:18, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Hi Listers,
I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER
Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford
Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding,
Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826.
I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield.
How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I
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You do not need to put in all the details, thats why its not coming up for you
All you need is the year, the surname and key words Four Lanes
Nothing else is needed
And as I said you don't need to even search for it, you have the details to order it (where you do need to fill in the detail)
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On 06/11/2024 20:56, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: thanks John will try again. As when I tried before I put the month in as they said as 09 but it came back wrong, but will give it another go.
Regards,
Maureen
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As in the case of the wills, you don't need to put all the details in
Search for the year 1875
The surname = WHITTEY
Forename = Ann
Select Female
District if Death = Bradford
That is all you need to enter, then search, one hit as I posted earlier
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On 06/11/2024 21:09, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: Nivard, still no results ???
Maureen I suspect the death you require is this one
WHITTEY, ANN 74
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 161
Although it looks wrong, if you check the GRO index on freebmd its indexed twice with the same reference there but only the above on the GOV GRO site
Ann WHITLEY 74 Bradford 9b 161
Ann WHITTEY 74 Bradford 9b 161
The GROs indexes on their own site were compiled completely differently to the GRO index on Freebmd
But given the evidence I suspect this is her death reg
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Hi Maureen
I can assure you it is spelled WHITLEY in the probate calendar
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And as its the same probate calender on the GOV site where you order it, its also spelled the same way as WHITLEY
So thats the spelling you need to use to order the will
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On 06/11/2024 20:58, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: Thanks Nivard will try that, but in the extract it is spelt WHITELY.
Maureen
On 6 Nov 2024, at 11:13?pm, Nivard Ovington via groups.io <ovington.one@...> wrote:
Hi Maureen
The only difference between the available probate calendars on Ancestry & Findmypast is if there is a folio number on the Probate sites copy
In this case there isn't so you don't really need to find it on the GOV site, just order using the information on the probate calendar from Ancestry or Findmypast
However if you want to find it, search the GOV site for WHITLEY year 1869 and key word Four Lanes, result one page with your entry on it
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Hi Nivard,
Thank you very much that will be her as she has a granddaughter called Ann DALBY.
Will apply for the certificate.
Maureen
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On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:19?am, Nivard Ovington via groups.io <ovington.one@...> wrote:
Hi Maureen
On your Anns death , she is still alive in 1871 Manningham, enumerated as Hannah WHITLEY aged 71 born Idle YKS a widow
With her is a granddaughter Ann DABBY? aged 18 born Allerton
I suspect the death you require is this one
WHITTEY, ANN 74
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 161
Although it looks wrong, if you check the GRO index on freebmd its indexed twice with the same reference there but only the above on the GOV GRO site
Ann WHITLEY 74 Bradford 9b 161
Ann WHITTEY 74 Bradford 9b 161
The GROs indexes on their own site were compiled completely differently to the GRO index on Freebmd
But given the evidence I suspect this is her death reg
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
On 06/11/2024 10:39, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs.
Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield.
Maureen
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Nivard, still no results ???
Maureen
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On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:19?am, Nivard Ovington via groups.io <ovington.one@...> wrote:
Hi Maureen
On your Anns death , she is still alive in 1871 Manningham, enumerated as Hannah WHITLEY aged 71 born Idle YKS a widow
With her is a granddaughter Ann DABBY? aged 18 born Allerton
I suspect the death you require is this one
WHITTEY, ANN 74
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 161
Although it looks wrong, if you check the GRO index on freebmd its indexed twice with the same reference there but only the above on the GOV GRO site
Ann WHITLEY 74 Bradford 9b 161
Ann WHITTEY 74 Bradford 9b 161
The GROs indexes on their own site were compiled completely differently to the GRO index on Freebmd
But given the evidence I suspect this is her death reg
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
On 06/11/2024 10:39, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs.
Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield.
Maureen
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Thanks Nivard will try that, but in the extract it is spelt WHITELY.
Maureen
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On 6 Nov 2024, at 11:13?pm, Nivard Ovington via groups.io <ovington.one@...> wrote:
Hi Maureen
The only difference between the available probate calendars on Ancestry & Findmypast is if there is a folio number on the Probate sites copy
In this case there isn't so you don't really need to find it on the GOV site, just order using the information on the probate calendar from Ancestry or Findmypast
However if you want to find it, search the GOV site for WHITLEY year 1869 and key word Four Lanes, result one page with your entry on it
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
On 06/11/2024 10:39, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs.
Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield.
Maureen
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thanks John will try again. As when I tried before I put the month in as they said as 09 but it came back wrong, but will give it another go.
Regards,
Maureen
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On 6 Nov 2024, at 10:20?pm, John Hanson via groups.io <john.hanson@...> wrote:
Maureen
For wills post 1858 the best place is
Cost ?1.50 and normally less than a week to be notified of the download being available
Make sure that you order both the will and the grant - grant tells you exactly who were the executors and the details of the death
Regards
John Hanson FSG
Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust -
Research website -
And my own study of FOSKER
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Maureen Farrer
Sent: 06 November 2024 10:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Death Index
Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs.
Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield.
Maureen
On 6 Nov 2024, at 7:36?pm, Nivard Ovington via groups.io <ovington.one@...> wrote:
Note slight spelling difference
WHITELEY, ANN 23
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page
49
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
On 06/11/2024 08:18, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Hi Listers,
I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER
Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford
Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding,
Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826.
I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield.
How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I
search Maureen In Oz
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Hi Maureen
On your Anns death , she is still alive in 1871 Manningham, enumerated as Hannah WHITLEY aged 71 born Idle YKS a widow
With her is a granddaughter Ann DABBY? aged 18 born Allerton
I suspect the death you require is this one
WHITTEY, ANN 74
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 161
Although it looks wrong, if you check the GRO index on freebmd its indexed twice with the same reference there but only the above on the GOV GRO site
Ann WHITLEY 74 Bradford 9b 161
Ann WHITTEY 74 Bradford 9b 161
The GROs indexes on their own site were compiled completely differently to the GRO index on Freebmd
But given the evidence I suspect this is her death reg
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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On 06/11/2024 10:39, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs.
Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield.
Maureen
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Hi Maureen
The only difference between the available probate calendars on Ancestry & Findmypast is if there is a folio number on the Probate sites copy
In this case there isn't so you don't really need to find it on the GOV site, just order using the information on the probate calendar from Ancestry or Findmypast
However if you want to find it, search the GOV site for WHITLEY year 1869 and key word Four Lanes, result one page with your entry on it
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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On 06/11/2024 10:39, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs.
Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield.
Maureen
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Maureen
For wills post 1858 the best place is
Cost ?1.50 and normally less than a week to be notified of the download being available
Make sure that you order both the will and the grant - grant tells you exactly who were the executors and the details of the death
Regards
John Hanson FSG
Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust -
Research website -
And my own study of FOSKER
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Maureen Farrer Sent: 06 November 2024 10:39 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Death Index Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs. Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield. Maureen On 6 Nov 2024, at 7:36?pm, Nivard Ovington via groups.io <ovington.one@...> wrote:
Note slight spelling difference
WHITELEY, ANN 23
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page
49
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
On 06/11/2024 08:18, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Hi Listers,
I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER
Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford
Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding,
Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826.
I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield.
How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I
search Maureen In Oz
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Thank you Lesley and Carole. I dont think this death is mine as my Ann WHITELY was definitely born in 1800., so would be about 64yrs.
Nivard Thomas died 13 September 1869. He lived in Four Lane Ends Manningham. Probate was in Wakefield.
Maureen
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On 6 Nov 2024, at 7:36?pm, Nivard Ovington via groups.io <ovington.one@...> wrote:
Note slight spelling difference
WHITELEY, ANN 23
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 49
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
On 06/11/2024 08:18, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote:
Hi Listers,
I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford
Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding, Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the
death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found
her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826.
I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield.
How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I search
Maureen In Oz
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I didn't see your mention of a will at first
When did Thomas die? and where? Bradford?
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On 06/11/2024 08:18, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: Hi Listers,
I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford
Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding, Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the
death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found
her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826.
I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield.
How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I search
Maureen In Oz
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Hi Maureen,
Try ordering your certificates with the reference numbers you have. Don't bother with a search, just go straight to the ordering a certificate page.? Put in the minimum they ask for and the year along with the GRO reference. Sometimes less is more.? They may have a slightly different spelling.
Check the reference numbers you have before you put the order in.
Lesley
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On 06/11/2024 08:18, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: Hi Listers,
I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford
Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding, Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the
death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found
her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826.
I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield.
How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I search
Maureen In Oz
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On the GRO index the surname is spelled WHITELEY - but can't help with the will, sorry
Carole
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On 06/11/2024 08:18, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: Hi Listers,
I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford
Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding, Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the
death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found
her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826.
I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield.
How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I search
Maureen In Oz
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The registration has her surname as WHITELEY - try again. It gives her age as 23.
Ruth
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Maureen Farrer Sent: 06 November 2024 08:18 To: [email protected]Subject: [yorksgen] Death Index Hi Listers, I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding, Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826. I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield. How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I search Maureen In Oz
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Note slight spelling difference
WHITELEY, ANN 23
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 49
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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On 06/11/2024 08:18, Maureen Farrer via groups.io wrote: Hi Listers,
I have found a death in Ancestry of Ann WHITELY nee FARRER Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Bradford
Death Date Mar 1864, Interred Death Place Yorkshire West Riding, Volume 9b Page 49. But I cant get a copy of the
death certificate from GRO as I tried to put all details in and it came back no results. Ann was a Quaker but have only found
her birth to parents John and Hannah HOLMES and she got married to Thomas WHITELY in Bradford Parish Church in 1826.
I have also found on Ancestry will for Thomas but again cant get a copy of the full will. Probate was in Wakefield.
How do I go about getting the above when I get “no result” which I search
Maureen In Oz
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Nivard Ovington