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Hull - cemeteries and crematorium

 

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For anyone interested:

The latest records available on are from Hull’s cemeteries and crematorium, owned and run by . The cemeteries and crematorium included here are:

  • Eastern Cemetery: over 27,000 records, from 1931 to 2000
  • Hedon Road Cemetery: over 86,000 records, from 1875 to 2000
  • Northern Cemetery: over 77,400 records, from 1929 to 2000
  • Western Cemetery: over 98,000 records, from 1889 to 2000
  • Western Old Cemetery: over 17,000 records, from 1861 to 1991
  • Chanterlands Crematorium: over 135,000 records, with early records from the Hedon Road cremation site, from 1902 to 1997

By using the above to find a person's date of death and cemetery, most of them should be available to view for free using the catalogue for Hull cemeteries on familysearch.org?

Lin
Re: 1931 Electoral Register

 

Hi Colin
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Thanks for the info.
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As regards Bradford Voting Registers I'm still in recovery :>)
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Lin
Re: 1931 Electoral Register

 

Hi Lin,
If you have a look at the Bradford Voting Registers (which I know you are familiar with), you will find that they give the qualification address and the abode.


If you pick the Exchange Wards (the centre of Bradford), there are very few people living there but lots of qualified addresses, such as

or


Can't explain how the voting system actually worked though.

Best wishes,
Colin Hinson.
In the village of Blunham, Bedfordshire.
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1931 Electoral Register

 

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On the following record 1931 Electoral Register? John WILKINSON's address is 125 Anlaby Road - he is qualified to vote in Parliamentary elections through a business premises qualification and in local elections through occupation of property qualification and his abode is given as Inglenook, Ellerby.?

If he is eligible to vote through the business premises and occupation of the property why mention his abode?

Can anyone please explain how the voting system worked in 1931?

Lin
Re: 1841 Census

 

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Thanks Sue that is what I think as well.

Maureen

On 10 Oct 2024, at 5:06?PM, Sue Herrington via groups.io <sue.herrington9@...> wrote:

I think it says "Ind" as in "of Independent means".

Sue

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024, 06:11 Maureen Farrer via , <maureenfarrer71=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Listers,

Could someone please look at the link below and see if they can understand the wording beside Elizabeth WILSON aged 80
under profession.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: 1841 Census

 

I think it says "Ind" as in "of Independent means".

Sue

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024, 06:11 Maureen Farrer via , <maureenfarrer71=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Listers,

Could someone please look at the link below and see if they can understand the wording beside Elizabeth WILSON aged 80
under profession.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
1841 Census

 

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Hi Listers,

Could someone please look at the link below and see if they can understand the wording beside Elizabeth WILSON aged 80
under profession.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: Quaker burials Camp Lane Court, Leeds

 

Hi Chris,
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What a wiz you are. I wish I had your knowledge to find this information. Will digest it all and see where it leads me.
How come you are such an expert on the Quakers ? It has been interesting finding all this information as Mary b.1785 and married Josiah WILSON,
it is her mother called Hannah who was the Quaker and married John FARRER (not a Quaker) but went on to have `10 children.
Have found some, but when John FARRER died in 1825 and left his will which he wrote in 1824 the only one not mentioned was
Benjamin. b.1803, but cant find his death.
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Regards,
Maureen in Oz.

On 6 Oct 2024, at 12:33?AM, Chris Pitt Lewis via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:

I found Mary's burial on FMP by searching England & Wales, Society Of Friends (Quaker) Burials 1578-1841 for Mary WILSON buried 1825 +/- 2 years. This produced 10 results and it was easy to identify the 2 in Brighouse Monthly Meeting and one Yorkshire Quarterly Meeting entry that relate to her.

Searching for the burial of Josiah WILSON ?in 1824 produced a blank. I could have searched all WILSON ?burials in that year, but what in fact I did was look at the tabular register of Brighouse MM (RG6/888) where Jarvis WILSON ?is at the top of the same page that has Mary WILSON ?near the bottom. (There is a John FARRER on the page as well.) Alternatively, you could simply search for the burial of Jarvis WILSON . He is the only one, though he appears in three registers (the same three as Mary).

Both Jarvis and Mary are said to be "Not in Membership" on their burial notes. This means that one or both of Josias and Mary had some connection with Friends, and may have continued to attend Quaker meetings for worship, but were not members. A likely possibility (not the only one) is that one of them was a member of the society of friends before their marriage; a Quaker marrying a non Quaker would in those days have been "disowned", that is lost their membership, and would have had to marry in an Anglican church. The meetings of the monthly meeting where they had their membership - presumably either Knaresborough or Brighouse - would show a disownment in the months after the marriage, but this could only be checked in the original records in Leeds University Library.
Re: Quaker burials Camp Lane Court, Leeds

 

I found Mary's burial on FMP by searching England & Wales, Society Of Friends (Quaker) Burials 1578-1841 for Mary WILSON buried 1825 +/- 2 years. This produced 10 results and it was easy to identify the 2 in Brighouse Monthly Meeting and one Yorkshire Quarterly Meeting entry that relate to her.

Searching for the burial of Josiah WILSON in 1824 produced a blank. I could have searched all WILSON burials in that year, but what in fact I did was look at the tabular register of Brighouse MM (RG6/888) where Jarvis WILSON is at the top of the same page that has Mary WILSON near the bottom. (There is a John FARRER on the page as well.) Alternatively, you could simply search for the burial of Jarvis WILSON . He is the only one, though he appears in three registers (the same three as Mary).

Both Jarvis and Mary are said to be "Not in Membership" on their burial notes. This means that one or both of Josias and Mary had some connection with Friends, and may have continued to attend Quaker meetings for worship, but were not members. A likely possibility (not the only one) is that one of them was a member of the society of friends before their marriage; a Quaker marrying a non Quaker would in those days have been "disowned", that is lost their membership, and would have had to marry in an Anglican church. The meetings of the monthly meeting where they had their membership - presumably either Knaresborough or Brighouse - would show a disownment in the months after the marriage, but this could only be checked in the original records in Leeds University Library.

I suppose the marriage in 1812 you refer to is that on 5 April 1812 in Leeds Parish Church between Josias WILSON , grocer, and Mary FARRER spinster, both of this parish. It was by licence. FMP has an image of the Bishop's Transcript in a collection it calls Yorkshire Marriages. The BT actually has "James" which has been deleted and "Josias" written above. It says the marriage was by licence. FMP also has an index entry of a licence for Josias WILSON , 34, of Leeds, to marry Jane (not Mary) FARRER, 26, of Leeds, in Leeds parish Church. It gives you a link to order the original documents from the Borthwick Institute in Leeds which would be worth doing to check if it actually says Mary rather than Jane - you may have done this already.

If the age in the marriage licence is accurate it fits precisely a Quaker birth in Knaresborough Monthly Meeting, of Josias, son of James WILSON , husbandman, and Elizabeth his wife born 8 12th month (December) 1777 at Rawden in the parish of Guiseley. As with the burials above, there are three register entries, in registers of Yorkshire Quarterly Meeting, Knaresborough Monthly Meeting and Rawdon Preparative Meeting.

There is a Josias WILSON at Fennell's Yard, Wakefield in the 1851 census (HO 107/2327 fo.262 p.34)? He is 73, described as retired grocer, born Rawdon, Yorkshire. He is living with his unmarried daughters Hannah, 28, born Rawdon and Sarah, 24, born Leeds, both confectioners.

There is a possible birth for Hannah in Knaresborough Monthly Meeting on 5th of 9th month (September) 1817 at Rawdon to Josias WILSON farmer there and Mary his wife. This would mean the 1851 census age is wrong though.

The Josias in the 1851 census died aged 81 on 4 dec 1858 at Wakefield leaving a will proved 22 January 1859. The entry in the England and Wales probate calendar states that the executor affirmed rather than swearing an oath in order to prove the will, very probably meaning he (the executor) was a Quaker.

It would be well worth ordering a copy of the will to see who the beneficiaries are. You can do this at You may need to put in the year of death as 1859 rather than 1858 to bring up the relevant page of the calendar which you need to do before ordering.

The key to all this was looking for Josias not Josiah. Of course they are fundamentally the same name, Josias being a Greek spelling (used in the New Testament at Matthew 1:10)? for the Hebrew Josiah. Whether Josias the grocer thought of them as the same is another matter.

I hope I have not repeated too much that you have already done, but it was an interesting puzzle.

Chris Pitt Lewis

On 04/10/2024 23:14, Maureen Farrer wrote:
Hi Chris,

Thanks again for your valuable information. I have also a marriage for their son John Farrer WILSON his marriage in 1838 to
Ann WARRENER. Can’t find his birth but assume he might have been born around 1813 after the parents marriage in 1812.
Can’t find any other children. I assume Mary died not long after giving birth to Josiah. The father Josiah was a Grocer but
Again can’t find anything else on him, i.e. death or re-marriage. Just to confuse me there is another Josiah WILSON from Leeds
But he is a farmer so not mine.

I am so grateful for the information you send me and it is so interesting. Wish I could just “pop” over there and go through it all.
I have both Ancestry and FindMyPast but not sure what info to put in on FindMyPast -re Meeting Place, Monthly Meeting etc. etc.

Regards,
Maureen In Oz.

On 5 Oct 2024, at 4:04?am, Chris Pitt Lewis via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:

In the 1820s Camp Lane Court was the address of the Quaker Meeting house in Leeds, and the burial ground will have been adjacent to it.

The relevant registers are in class RG6 at the National Archives, and are indexed online by both Ancestry and FindMyPast, with images of the registers. These indexes show three registrations each for Mary (died 1st of 4th month (April) 1825 and buried the 4th) and for the child, whose name is given as Jarvis, not Josiah (and the father's name is given as Josias), died 25th of 9th month (September) 1824 and buried the 27th, aged 6 months.

The primary document in each case is the original "burial note", which after having its information copied by the monthly meeting to which Leeds belonged (Brighouse Monthly Meeting) into a tabular register, was sent up to Yorkshire Quarterly Meeting and bound by them in their register. In this case the local meeting at Leeds (called a "Preparative Meeting") also kept a transcript of the Note; hence the three registrations of the same event.

Chris Pitt Lewis

On 04/10/2024 10:01, Maureen Farrer wrote:
Hi Listers,

Is there anywhere I could find online a index for the Quaker burial ground called Camp Lane Court Leeds. I have a death for
Josiah WILSON buried September 1824 and said birth same year. His mother Mary WILSON was buried there in 1825.
His father was also Josiah WILSON and he was a grocer.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: Quaker burials Camp Lane Court, Leeds

 

Hi Chris,

Thanks again for your valuable information. I have also a marriage for their son John Farrer WILSON his marriage in 1838 to
Ann WARRENER. Can’t find his birth but assume he might have been born around 1813 after the parents marriage in 1812.
Can’t find any other children. I assume Mary died not long after giving birth to Josiah. The father Josiah was a Grocer but
Again can’t find anything else on him, i.e. death or re-marriage. Just to confuse me there is another Josiah WILSON from Leeds
But he is a farmer so not mine.

I am so grateful for the information you send me and it is so interesting. Wish I could just “pop” over there and go through it all.
I have both Ancestry and FindMyPast but not sure what info to put in on FindMyPast -re Meeting Place, Monthly Meeting etc. etc.

Regards,
Maureen In Oz.

On 5 Oct 2024, at 4:04?am, Chris Pitt Lewis via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:

In the 1820s Camp Lane Court was the address of the Quaker Meeting house in Leeds, and the burial ground will have been adjacent to it.

The relevant registers are in class RG6 at the National Archives, and are indexed online by both Ancestry and FindMyPast, with images of the registers. These indexes show three registrations each for Mary (died 1st of 4th month (April) 1825 and buried the 4th) and for the child, whose name is given as Jarvis, not Josiah (and the father's name is given as Josias), died 25th of 9th month (September) 1824 and buried the 27th, aged 6 months.

The primary document in each case is the original "burial note", which after having its information copied by the monthly meeting to which Leeds belonged (Brighouse Monthly Meeting) into a tabular register, was sent up to Yorkshire Quarterly Meeting and bound by them in their register. In this case the local meeting at Leeds (called a "Preparative Meeting") also kept a transcript of the Note; hence the three registrations of the same event.

Chris Pitt Lewis

On 04/10/2024 10:01, Maureen Farrer wrote:
Hi Listers,

Is there anywhere I could find online a index for the Quaker burial ground called Camp Lane Court Leeds. I have a death for
Josiah WILSON buried September 1824 and said birth same year. His mother Mary WILSON was buried there in 1825.
His father was also Josiah WILSON and he was a grocer.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: Quaker burials Camp Lane Court, Leeds

 

In the 1820s Camp Lane Court was the address of the Quaker Meeting house in Leeds, and the burial ground will have been adjacent to it.

The relevant registers are in class RG6 at the National Archives, and are indexed online by both Ancestry and FindMyPast, with images of the registers. These indexes show three registrations each for Mary (died 1st of 4th month (April) 1825 and buried the 4th) and for the child, whose name is given as Jarvis, not Josiah (and the father's name is given as Josias), died 25th of 9th month (September) 1824 and buried the 27th, aged 6 months.

The primary document in each case is the original "burial note", which after having its information copied by the monthly meeting to which Leeds belonged (Brighouse Monthly Meeting) into a tabular register, was sent up to Yorkshire Quarterly Meeting and bound by them in their register. In this case the local meeting at Leeds (called a "Preparative Meeting") also kept a transcript of the Note; hence the three registrations of the same event.

Chris Pitt Lewis

On 04/10/2024 10:01, Maureen Farrer wrote:
Hi Listers,

Is there anywhere I could find online a index for the Quaker burial ground called Camp Lane Court Leeds. I have a death for
Josiah WILSON buried September 1824 and said birth same year. His mother Mary WILSON was buried there in 1825.
His father was also Josiah WILSON and he was a grocer.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Quaker burials Camp Lane Court, Leeds

 

Hi Listers,

Is there anywhere I could find online a index for the Quaker burial ground called Camp Lane Court Leeds. I have a death for
Josiah WILSON buried September 1824 and said birth same year. His mother Mary WILSON was buried there in 1825.
His father was also Josiah WILSON and he was a grocer.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
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FARRER

 

Hi Listers,

I am trying to find the death of Benjamin FARRER who was baptised 1803 in Bradford Church his parents were John and Hannah FARRER.
Benjamin’s father John wrote a will in 1824 (died 1825) and mentions all his children except Benjamin so I assume he died between
1803 - 1824 but cant find anything. I have found the other childrens birth in Quakers Registration in Brighouse.

Thanks,
Maureen
Locked Yorkshire Surnames List - September update

 

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New names added last month

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If you would like to add your surname(s) to the list, please use the form at: 

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**PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY REGARDING SUBMISSION OF NAMES BEFORE HITTING THE SUBMIT BUTTON*****
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FARRER

 

Hi Listers,

I am trying to track down Benjamin FARRER b.1803 to John FARRER and Hannah in Bradford. I wonder if anyone has parish
records as cant find him anywhere in the usual onsite websites. His father died in 1825 and left a will and mentioned his children but
not Benjamin, so maybe he might have died by then.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: FARRER

 

Maureen

No, Leeds and Bradford, although not far apart, are two separate cities.

Sue

On Sat, 21 Sep 2024, 16:03 Maureen Farrer via , <maureenfarrer71=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Sue,

Have searched through Ancestry, but come up with nothing except Joseph’s christening. Also have found records for various people and
they were from Bradford, but various records said St.Peters Leeds, so is that the same name as St.Peters Bradford ?

Maureen

On 21 Sep 2024, at 1:48?AM, Sue Herrington via <sue.herrington9=[email protected]> wrote:


Ancestry have the parish registers, which include baptisms, for Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral) from 1596 & Bradford, Wibsey Chapel from 1674. There was no civil registration of births prior to July 1837.

Sue

From:?[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Maureen Farrer via <maureenfarrer71=[email protected]>
Sent:?Friday, September 20, 2024 8:26 AM
To:?[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?[yorksgen] FARRER
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Hi Listers,

I am trying to verify the birth /baptism of the following children who were born to Henry FARRER and Sussanah FARRER (neeJOBSON)
They were married in Bradford Church in 1757.

The children were.
William
Benjamin b.1761
Christiana
John
Joseph.

I have verified the death of both Benjamin and John and marriages of both John and Christiana. Benjamin never married.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: FARRER

 

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Thanks Sue,

Have searched through Ancestry, but come up with nothing except Joseph’s christening. Also have found records for various people and
they were from Bradford, but various records said St.Peters Leeds, so is that the same name as St.Peters Bradford ?

Maureen

On 21 Sep 2024, at 1:48?AM, Sue Herrington via groups.io <sue.herrington9@...> wrote:


Ancestry have the parish registers, which include baptisms, for Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral) from 1596 & Bradford, Wibsey Chapel from 1674. There was no civil registration of births prior to July 1837.

Sue

From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Maureen Farrer via groups.io <maureenfarrer71@...>
Sent:?Friday, September 20, 2024 8:26 AM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?[yorksgen] FARRER
?
Hi Listers,

I am trying to verify the birth /baptism of the following children who were born to Henry FARRER and Sussanah FARRER (neeJOBSON)
They were married in Bradford Church in 1757.

The children were.
William
Benjamin b.1761
Christiana
John
Joseph.

I have verified the death of both Benjamin and John and marriages of both John and Christiana. Benjamin never married.

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.
Re: Mayors of Ripon, Yorkshire

 

Steve
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Try the attached.? I got it some years ago when there was and old story that one of my ancestors was the first Lady Mayoress of Ripon (not proven now).? I believe I got it from the Ripon Police Museum or some such place on one of my trips back to the UK.
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Regards
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David

Wakemen and Mayors of Ripon.docx
Wakemen and Mayors of Ripon.docx

Re: FARRER

 

Maureen
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Joseph baptised 13 May 1764 Bradford
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?? William baptised 21 Aug 1759 Guiseley
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Lin
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