Re: Varney PRR L1
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John,
? ?? Yeah, I agree. Not a Varney drive for sure but it isn't Bowser or Penn Line either. The front steps are different. The air tank is different. Similar, yes, but that's because of the same prototype. Maybe a scratch build? Did you see both examples? I think there are Varney components on both locos. At least the cross heads and the steam chest appear to be Varney. The double screws on the bottom to hold the chest to the frame are an indicator. If that complete loco was being sold separately, I would have tried to get it. Not interested in the auction for just the chassis. Thanks for your time!
--Jeff
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From: John Hagen via Groups.Io <sprinthag@...> To: YardbirdTrains <YardbirdTrains@groups.io> Sent: Tue, Feb 26, 2019 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1 Jeff,
From what I’ve been able to dig up on hoseeker, it looks to be a Bowser. They are both rather similar but not alike. Based on what I’ve seen, and considering that the illustrations in hoseeker are drawings, not photos, the Bowser looks closer than the Penn Line.
It is not a Varney drive.
John Hagen
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From: YardbirdTrains@groups.io <YardbirdTrains@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Pellas via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:01 PM To: YardbirdTrains@groups.io Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1 ?
John,
? ?? Thanks for the info but I never said it was a production Varney. It appears to be a kit bash that utilized a Varney chassis to make something else. My question was whether or not there was a kitbashing article about doing this or if, possibly, there was a conversion kit such as the John English kit that turned a Mantua 2-8-0 into a PRR 2-8-0? The one auction that had a complete loco has expired so I'll have to do a little digging to find those images but here is a link to a current auction. At first glance, it appears to be a Penn Line L1 chassis but, upon further examination, you can see that it is something else. It is a guess but it probably predates Penn Line because it looks really old and why would you kit bash an L1 when you could buy one from Penn Line?
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Jeff
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From: John Hagen via Groups.Io <sprinthag@...> To: YardbirdTrains <YardbirdTrains@groups.io> Sent: Tue, Feb 26, 2019 3:43 am Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1 No. That was originally a Bowser as it remained until production was discontinued.
The only Varney 2-8-2’s were the decidedly not Pennsy “Economy” and “Super” Mikado’s that began around 1938 and ran into the 1950’s.
Per Varney’s 1938 set of steam loco instructions (hoseeker.net), the original rigid frame Mikado’s were based of freelance design and based on an extended Consolidation I do not know when the “Super” Mikado’s were first produced but per hoseeker.net there was one in 1951.
While there are many differences between the original version that became the “Economy” and the “Super” versions that included sprung drivers among it’s numerous up-grades, they were still freelanced. Nice looking but freelanced non the less.
Bowser and Penn Line both had several Pennsy steam locos and MDC/Roundhouse had a Pennsy Atlantic and Consolidation. Overall Bowser eventually led the way in Pennsy steam.
Bowser did produce some former Varney steamers but that was limited to their “Lil Joe” B&O 0-4-0T, the “old Lady” Consolidation and the “Casey Jones” 4-6-0.
John Hagen
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From: YardbirdTrains@groups.io <YardbirdTrains@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Macklin
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:21 AM To: YardbirdTrains@groups.io Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1 ?
Is it really a Varney?
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Bob Macklin
K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. "Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
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Jeff Pellas