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Getting QY100 Songs into an Rm1x

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Hello QY group!

A long time ago, I recorded some real-time 'jamming' on a Rm1x into a QY100. Basically, I had a style (in Pattern Mode) ready on the Rm1x, and connected the MIDI out from the Rm1x into the MIDI in on the QY100 ...

And then I recorded the MIDI output of the Rm1x into the QY100 while using the real-time controls on the Rm1x ... So I was essentially using the QY100 like a Roland MC-50 or Alesis MMT-8 to simply record what was happening on the Rm1x.

I recorded a handful of performances like this, until such point as I finished one of these 'songs' and noticed that the QY100 had stopped recording and was showing a message saying that it was full.

And now I'm ready to (finally) revisit these performances and see what I actually have. I figure the most logical (and easiest) option will be to import these files into the Rm1x ...

But I'm curious about how this would be done. I've been having a look online and at the QY100 manual, and it looks like I'd want to use the 'Save' function and save as a SMF to a memory card. Alternately, it appears I could use the 'Bulk Dump' function and import to my computer ...

So first I'd be curious if anyone has advice on which of these options will be best in this case. And then after that, I'm not sure how I would get this data back into the Rm1x. Although I do have a USB 2.5" floppy drive that I can connect to an old MacBook Pro ...

But before going further, I'm hoping someone on this list has done a similar thing and can provide some insight. Since I've only really used the QY for this purpose, any advice will be appreciated!

Thanks,
Jim
 

Hi Jim I guess it depends on whether the RM1X can import SMF .
You could try by exporting a QY100 song in SMF format to a PC/Macbook (maybe via smart media card slot in the QY100) and then try and import via the USB floppy drive to the RM1X.
If the RM1X doesn't like the SMF format you could change the format on your macbook using a free software like GNMDFMT and try to import again
 

here is a link about getting midi files into RM1X
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Hi Mark,

Thanks so much for the replies - and especially for digging up that Gearslutz link I should have found w/ Google myself!? As it happens, the Rm1x can import SMF files, and if the file is Type 0 it includes a job that will 'explode' that file out to separate tracks ...

I guess the only QY-specific question now is whether a multi-track performance on the Rm1x would be recorded onto 1 track on the QY or retain its multi-track nature while recording. If it's the latter, then I expect the QY should export as SMF Type 1. And if it's all on 1 track, then it appears some extra steps will be needed to get back to multi-track format on the Rm1x.

In any case, this is helpful info. and I'm glad that one way or another it looks like these long-lost song ideas might actually be retrievable :)

Thanks again,
Jim
On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 3:36:37 AM CST, SeqMark via Groups.Io <markbarratt6@...> wrote:


here is a link about getting midi files into RM1X
 
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Jim,
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The QY will record/playback to multiple tracks simultaneously if you have it set up properly… Or more specifically if you had it set up properly when you used it as a MIDI recorder.
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The settings in particular that you need to look at are via the following button sequences:
1) Set MIDI Channel to ALL
(From song view)
Menu->F4 (Utility)
Menu-F4 (Fingered Zone)
Then Right Arrow to
MIDI Channel (should be set to ALL by hitting Minus(-) button several times as needed...Range is ALL, 1,2,3....16)
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2) Set Echo Back to OFF:
(From Song view)
Menu->F4 (Utility)
Menu-F2 (MIDI)
Arrow to Echo Back and set to OFF
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3) You may also need to change some other settings in the MIDI screen in step two depending on your setup. ?
? ? ?For example, if you recorded to a pattern, you would need to set Pattern out channel to 1-8 or 9-16 (but only if the RM1X cannot handle the pattern’s normal record/playback channels (which are 17 to 24)).
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4) ALWAYS Double-Check the hardware switch on the QY and make sure it is set to MIDI. ?(It can get switched by accident so it is always a good idea to check it).
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Lastly, since the RM1X was also made by Yamaha, you may need to similarly setup the above on that unit (particularly Midi-channel/OMNI mode). Of course, the steps would very likely be different on the RM1X. ?The most important is that the REC-Monitor field NOT be set to YES/TRUE, since doing that will force all incoming MIDI data to the currently selected track on the RM1X.
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It should be noted that if the QY70 was not setup similarly to the above during the recording phase (to the QY70) then the data might all be located in one track, if that is the case then I am not sure how to split it back up into multiple tracks/channels (beyond doing it manually). ??
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Hope this helps.
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Cheers,
Eric
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Jim,?

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I just wanted to clarify something ?in my previous instructions:

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REC-Monitor is one of the options in the ECHO-BACK field on the QY70, but some Yamaha equipment might have a check box for REC-Monitor instead (though I would hope not for consistency sake)...?

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In anycase, the main thing to keep in mind is that the two concepts (Echo-Back and REC-Monitor) are related with generally REC-Monitor being just one of the options for the ECHO-BACK field (the other options being THRU and OFF).

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Cheers,

Eric

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Hi Eric,

Thanks so much for the excellent information. I wish I would have known all this back in 2004, since I would've wanted to record in multi-track format.

In my naivety, though, I just turned on the QY and started recording without changing anything ... So unless what you're describing are the default settings, then I guess I'm looking at one bloated track...

I'll know for sure soon enough (hopefully), but in any case this is super helpful to know whenever I want to try this again!

Best regards,
Jim
On Sunday, February 16, 2020, 4:04:32 PM CST, Eric <erichemingway@...> wrote:



Jim,?


I just wanted to clarify something ?in my previous instructions:


REC-Monitor is one of the options in the ECHO-BACK field on the QY70, but some Yamaha equipment might have a check box for REC-Monitor instead (though I would hope not for consistency sake)...?


In anycase, the main thing to keep in mind is that the two concepts (Echo-Back and REC-Monitor) are related with generally REC-Monitor being just one of the options for the ECHO-BACK field (the other options being THRU and OFF).


Cheers,

Eric





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