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Re: Qy100 blank screen

 

Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Contrast adjuster could be flaky... but otherwise my bet would be capacitor plaque...which unfortunately can be rather hard to diagnose, which is why people will often replace all the capacitors if it is strongly suspected. ?Google ¡°Capacitor Plaque Wikipedia¡± for more detailed info and pics on what to look for.

However, before going that route, I would open it up and check to see if you have had any significant battery leaks any/or corrosion... you will need to take the entire back off to be certain, since the battery compartment can sometimes not gove an accurate picture.

If you have corrosion then cleaning the PCBs thoughly (and carefully) with alcohol (or electronic cleaner) might resolve the issue.

Cheers,
Eric?
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Re: Don¡¯t forget to give yourself a Display Names

 

How is that done. Can¡¯t find it?


Qy100 blank screen

 

Hi everyone I m Dan and I¡¯m new here ,also thanks in advance
So I decided to dust off my old qy100
Plugged it in and no problems ,ran fine
and had fun
On then 2nd time I turned it on the screen lite up as usual with the exploding graphics
But then went dark
Is there anyone here who can give insight
to the issue?
Much appreciation for any info
Thanks
Dan


Re: QY100 display light

 


Nicely done! ?

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Re: QY100 display light

 

Hope the photos are clear enough to place the soldering iron in the right spot... ;)

Re: OLED: you bet it! it would be the perfect solution (i.e. longer battery life). Problem is that research for an equivalent takes ages: at present I prefer investing my lockdown spare time (since February 23, greetings from Lombardy, N Italy) in playing on the QY instead of tinkering with it ;)

anyway, any advice on a potential (and cheap!) substitute is warmly welcome!

PS my mod also holds for the QY70 I hope... just hook to the +3.3V rail!


Re: QY100 display light

 

great ! distinct improvement, and thanks for the project photos.
are you still thinking about hunting down an OLED display?


Re: QY100 display light

 
Edited

Well, gents, it worked! Just a half-hour affair, now that I'm sure on where to tap the 3.3V. Made a bunch of pictures, check in the Photos section!

...let there be light! :)


Re: QY100 display light

 
Edited

Just an update... after 52 days, the parcel with the Game Boy Advance front light kit arrived! Normally, from China to Italy it takes 30-40 days, in these times, kudos to the international mail services!

First thing, the acrylic light guide panel fits perfectly the QY100 display. Next steps:

  • test for frontlight placement: the frontlight panel by design is more illuminated near the LED strip, I think to place that at display bottom, since is the most "crowded" zone (pattern names, "grid" display, mixers, etc..);

  • I'm eyeballing the schemes on QY100 Service Manual to find a good spot where to solder the two LED wires: I'll test tapping form the HOST SELECT switch, since it is of scarce use and when in "MIDI" position (i.e. its normal position) there is a not connected pin that is driven to ground via a 10K resistor: almost perfect, just need to find a +3.3V (nearby pin on same switch): soldering on IC33 (3.3V regulator) should be the simplest option.

Any other ideas are welcome on i) where to tap 3.3V and (optionally) ii) using something different to the micro (tiny indeed!) switch present in the kit, intended to be placed in the battery compartment.

Mote to come... with photos, if needed.


Re: SmartMedia Card unreadable in QY100 after opening in Win10

 

Update on this for reference. It's not a full step-by-step because there are many floating variables. I've had to resort to using Archive.org a lot to track down the correct info and files, I felt like a detective.

I ordered the MicroTech USB CameraMate reader on eBay. It's possible to use Sandisk SDDR-09 or MicroTech ZiO!, whatever's available.
I then installed Windows 98SE on VirtualBox 6.0, there are plenty of tutorials online on how to to that, along with the Extension Pack to enable USB, I used a Windows 7 host computer, the Linux machine wouldn't detect the reader, and I had issues with the Windows 10 installation. The Windows 7 machine was running on an Intel which might be better for virtualization. To get the Windows 98SE virtual install to communicate with its host, I needed to set up Folder Sharing from within Win98SE, and share a folder that would show up in the Win7 host. This folder was used to transfer the files needed for fixing the card from Win7 to Win98. The first issue was installing the reader as the default driver that was on the CD did not work with the smprep.exe "fix". The driver is called

Once the driver is installed and you can read your card (it will say that it needs to be formatted), use smprep.exe to fix and format the card, then reformat in the QY100 as per the user manual. .


I found around 80 tracks that were made by the person who owned the unit before me. They're mostly old rock classics with that karaoke vibe, so mostly interesting for educational purposes.


Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

@Jim. Sorry I am using a QY70 with no SM slot. So good there is an option on the '100

and yes Prea input was useful for me too. Ive not tried to record MIDI (since I had no compooter back in 1999 when I used the QY daily) but now I have a Mac and getting Abelton Lite with my Korg ES2.

Happy MIDI-ing :D
On Wednesday, 4 March 2020, 23:08:13 CET, jbjorklun via Groups.Io <jbjorklun@...> wrote:


Okay - now it's finally becoming as clear as I need it to be!

Thanks squishy for mentioning that ... going back to the manual (page 259), it shows the full range of saving options (including SMF) are available when saving to SmartMedia card.

So apparently that is how Yamaha wanted this to happen, while the Data Filer was meant for just backing up a QY itself.

That said, it's interesting to hear Prea's suggestion that recording a song over MIDI into a DAW application is actually easier since you don't have to 're-expand' the SMF back to its individual tracks.

At this point, it's probably best for me to try out both scenarios and see which I prefer.

Thanks again,
Jim
On Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 1:24:48 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:


To transfer MIDI files from and to the QY100 I use the functions provided by the Data Filer program, in particular to move pieces of material to be assembled in phrases or to export small MIDI chunks to work on a DAW (or other sequencer).Often, to "dump" a finished song I enslave the QY to the DAW (Reaper, in my case) and record all the MIDI at high bpm. Then in Reaper set all back to the right bpm and separtate tracks by MIDI channel.I borrowed this from my workflow with the QY700, although there you can save a MIDI file on an USB thumbdrive, direct MIDI playback saves time, saves leaving half of the tracks empty for the "expand backing" job... and is more fun.:)


Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

Okay - now it's finally becoming as clear as I need it to be!

Thanks squishy for mentioning that ... going back to the manual (page 259), it shows the full range of saving options (including SMF) are available when saving to SmartMedia card.

So apparently that is how Yamaha wanted this to happen, while the Data Filer was meant for just backing up a QY itself.

That said, it's interesting to hear Prea's suggestion that recording a song over MIDI into a DAW application is actually easier since you don't have to 're-expand' the SMF back to its individual tracks.

At this point, it's probably best for me to try out both scenarios and see which I prefer.

Thanks again,
Jim
On Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 1:24:48 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:


To transfer MIDI files from and to the QY100 I use the functions provided by the Data Filer program, in particular to move pieces of material to be assembled in phrases or to export small MIDI chunks to work on a DAW (or other sequencer). Often, to "dump" a finished song I enslave the QY to the DAW (Reaper, in my case) and record all the MIDI at high bpm. Then in Reaper set all back to the right bpm and separtate tracks by MIDI channel. I borrowed this from my workflow with the QY700, although there you can save a MIDI file on an USB thumbdrive, direct MIDI playback saves time, saves leaving half of the tracks empty for the "expand backing" job... and is more fun. :)


Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

To transfer MIDI files from and to the QY100 I use the functions provided by the Data Filer program, in particular to move pieces of material to be assembled in phrases or to export small MIDI chunks to work on a DAW (or other sequencer). Often, to "dump" a finished song I enslave the QY to the DAW (Reaper, in my case) and record all the MIDI at high bpm. Then in Reaper set all back to the right bpm and separtate tracks by MIDI channel. I borrowed this from my workflow with the QY700, although there you can save a MIDI file on an USB thumbdrive, direct MIDI playback saves time, saves leaving half of the tracks empty for the "expand backing" job... and is more fun. :)


Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

" I'm not seeing in the manual where it shows an option to select 'SMF' ... but I'll assume it's there in the (UTILITY) Bulk Dump area."

Im not sure there is, not afaik. I think there arent many options in the Utility bulk dump. I think you can select songs/patterns or all...IIRC but Im not 100%, more 92 :D

I did try to fathom out the whole SMF thing decades ago but gave up on it.
On Wednesday, 4 March 2020, 00:10:17 CET, jbjorklun via Groups.Io <jbjorklun@...> wrote:


Thanks Prea for the further help with my 2 questions, and it's been fun reading the discussion that's followed as well ...

And looking again at the QY100 manual (page 250), I now see this: "To ensure reliable data transfer we recommend that you use the supplied 'QY100 Data Filer' application for bulk data transmission and reception."

So now I see what you're saying about the QY100 Data Filer application receiving the data - it was right there in front of me! Also, I did go ahead and order both a USB - Serial adapter and a glorious Apple Laser Printer serial cable :) I totally understand why most people are using a USB - MIDI solution, but I'm going to try this path first and see how it goes ...

By the way, it's good to realize that the default QY dumps can only be used by QY100s. In my case, I'm looking to move these songs away from the QY100, so I'll definitely want to use the SMF option. Interestingly, I'm not seeing in the manual where it shows an option to select 'SMF' ... but I'll assume it's there in the (UTILITY) Bulk Dump area.

Lastly, when I'm finally ready to try this, I'll be sure to configure the QY to use an external clock. That's a detail that I probably would have missed!

Best regards,
Jim
On Monday, March 2, 2020, 8:01:53 AM CST, squishy via Groups.Io <squishmusik@...> wrote:


You are right and I added that factor into my research before buying one. One Amazon review by a musician stated that it worked ok for SysEx and I took a punt on his word being correct and so far it hasnt been an issue for me. A full QY is a small xxxkb file IIRC.

I made an error with the name. It was TIE not TiTo.
Anyway here is the link since I can confirm this works with a Mac and QY70.
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01487ZA3C
On Monday, 2 March 2020, 14:56:48 CET, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Cheap USB-to-MIDI are excellent!

The only problem is that many of them have small buffers and cannot
sustain high transfer rates, that is, cannot do SYSEX dumps.

Unfortunately, as far as I know it doesn't exist a list of "working"
converters, I've seen also converters sold on eBay for 5€...

IMHO, any USB-MIDI cable in the price range you cited (>15€) can do the job.



On 02/03/20 14:51, squishy via Groups.Io wrote:
> I forgot to add that I use a TiTo USB-MIDI interface. That was a 15€
> amazon purchase. Works grand. I chose that though bcoz of MscOS
> constraints.
> On Monday, 2 March 2020, 14:48:18 CET, squishy <squishmusik@...>
> wrote:
>
>
> FYI: I use a QY70 with my Mac. It connects fine via OSX core MIDI Audio
> Setup app. I then use the freeware app SysEx Lib to save/send QY70 bulk
> dumps between Mac and QY. But this is all Ive attempted.
>
> On Monday, 2 March 2020, 01:49:11 CET, jbjorklun via Groups.Io
> <jbjorklun=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the advice Prea - it is appreciated. After looking into this
> some more, it sounds like there are 3 general ways to approach
> connecting the QY100 to a computer:
>
> 1) Serial - adding a physical serial port ... via a serial model add-on
> card (or pci adapter) + then a serial cable + a serial midi i/o
>
> 2) USB -? using any compatible USB midi device
>
> 3) USB serial - adding a USB device that adds a serial port that's
> connected with a cable to a serial midi interface (thereby converting
> the serial device to USB basically)
>
> It sounds like you're ~ following option #2, and I'm going to try option
> #3 (which seemingly should also work)... I guess the biggest question
> now is what software to use for receiving and storing the Data Filer data?
>
> The user guide doesn't mention anything about this, but I assume there
> must be something on the computer side to accept the data stream...
>
> So if anyone has any suggestions / recommendations for this (especially
> on the Mac side), that would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks again,
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:03:51 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jim although coupling vintage with vintage is fascinating indeed, I
> recommend using a cheapish MIDI-to-USB adapter: I also tried for both
> 100 and 700, and something like this
> solve the
> problem.Keep the switch on 100's back set to MIDI.I'm conveniently using
> this and a Windows 7 laptop with the 100 Data Filer.
>
> Best
>
>




Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

Thanks Prea for the further help with my 2 questions, and it's been fun reading the discussion that's followed as well ...

And looking again at the QY100 manual (page 250), I now see this: "To ensure reliable data transfer we recommend that you use the supplied 'QY100 Data Filer' application for bulk data transmission and reception."

So now I see what you're saying about the QY100 Data Filer application receiving the data - it was right there in front of me! Also, I did go ahead and order both a USB - Serial adapter and a glorious Apple Laser Printer serial cable :) I totally understand why most people are using a USB - MIDI solution, but I'm going to try this path first and see how it goes ...

By the way, it's good to realize that the default QY dumps can only be used by QY100s. In my case, I'm looking to move these songs away from the QY100, so I'll definitely want to use the SMF option. Interestingly, I'm not seeing in the manual where it shows an option to select 'SMF' ... but I'll assume it's there in the (UTILITY) Bulk Dump area.

Lastly, when I'm finally ready to try this, I'll be sure to configure the QY to use an external clock. That's a detail that I probably would have missed!

Best regards,
Jim
On Monday, March 2, 2020, 8:01:53 AM CST, squishy via Groups.Io <squishmusik@...> wrote:


You are right and I added that factor into my research before buying one. One Amazon review by a musician stated that it worked ok for SysEx and I took a punt on his word being correct and so far it hasnt been an issue for me. A full QY is a small xxxkb file IIRC.

I made an error with the name. It was TIE not TiTo.
Anyway here is the link since I can confirm this works with a Mac and QY70.
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01487ZA3C
On Monday, 2 March 2020, 14:56:48 CET, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Cheap USB-to-MIDI are excellent!

The only problem is that many of them have small buffers and cannot
sustain high transfer rates, that is, cannot do SYSEX dumps.

Unfortunately, as far as I know it doesn't exist a list of "working"
converters, I've seen also converters sold on eBay for 5€...

IMHO, any USB-MIDI cable in the price range you cited (>15€) can do the job.



On 02/03/20 14:51, squishy via Groups.Io wrote:
> I forgot to add that I use a TiTo USB-MIDI interface. That was a 15€
> amazon purchase. Works grand. I chose that though bcoz of MscOS
> constraints.
> On Monday, 2 March 2020, 14:48:18 CET, squishy <squishmusik@...>
> wrote:
>
>
> FYI: I use a QY70 with my Mac. It connects fine via OSX core MIDI Audio
> Setup app. I then use the freeware app SysEx Lib to save/send QY70 bulk
> dumps between Mac and QY. But this is all Ive attempted.
>
> On Monday, 2 March 2020, 01:49:11 CET, jbjorklun via Groups.Io
> <jbjorklun=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the advice Prea - it is appreciated. After looking into this
> some more, it sounds like there are 3 general ways to approach
> connecting the QY100 to a computer:
>
> 1) Serial - adding a physical serial port ... via a serial model add-on
> card (or pci adapter) + then a serial cable + a serial midi i/o
>
> 2) USB -? using any compatible USB midi device
>
> 3) USB serial - adding a USB device that adds a serial port that's
> connected with a cable to a serial midi interface (thereby converting
> the serial device to USB basically)
>
> It sounds like you're ~ following option #2, and I'm going to try option
> #3 (which seemingly should also work)... I guess the biggest question
> now is what software to use for receiving and storing the Data Filer data?
>
> The user guide doesn't mention anything about this, but I assume there
> must be something on the computer side to accept the data stream...
>
> So if anyone has any suggestions / recommendations for this (especially
> on the Mac side), that would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks again,
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:03:51 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jim although coupling vintage with vintage is fascinating indeed, I
> recommend using a cheapish MIDI-to-USB adapter: I also tried for both
> 100 and 700, and something like this
> solve the
> problem.Keep the switch on 100's back set to MIDI.I'm conveniently using
> this and a Windows 7 laptop with the 100 Data Filer.
>
> Best
>
>




Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

You are right and I added that factor into my research before buying one. One Amazon review by a musician stated that it worked ok for SysEx and I took a punt on his word being correct and so far it hasnt been an issue for me. A full QY is a small xxxkb file IIRC.

I made an error with the name. It was TIE not TiTo.
Anyway here is the link since I can confirm this works with a Mac and QY70.
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01487ZA3C
On Monday, 2 March 2020, 14:56:48 CET, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Cheap USB-to-MIDI are excellent!

The only problem is that many of them have small buffers and cannot
sustain high transfer rates, that is, cannot do SYSEX dumps.

Unfortunately, as far as I know it doesn't exist a list of "working"
converters, I've seen also converters sold on eBay for 5€...

IMHO, any USB-MIDI cable in the price range you cited (>15€) can do the job.



On 02/03/20 14:51, squishy via Groups.Io wrote:
> I forgot to add that I use a TiTo USB-MIDI interface. That was a 15€
> amazon purchase. Works grand. I chose that though bcoz of MscOS
> constraints.
> On Monday, 2 March 2020, 14:48:18 CET, squishy <squishmusik@...>
> wrote:
>
>
> FYI: I use a QY70 with my Mac. It connects fine via OSX core MIDI Audio
> Setup app. I then use the freeware app SysEx Lib to save/send QY70 bulk
> dumps between Mac and QY. But this is all Ive attempted.
>
> On Monday, 2 March 2020, 01:49:11 CET, jbjorklun via Groups.Io
> <jbjorklun=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the advice Prea - it is appreciated. After looking into this
> some more, it sounds like there are 3 general ways to approach
> connecting the QY100 to a computer:
>
> 1) Serial - adding a physical serial port ... via a serial model add-on
> card (or pci adapter) + then a serial cable + a serial midi i/o
>
> 2) USB -? using any compatible USB midi device
>
> 3) USB serial - adding a USB device that adds a serial port that's
> connected with a cable to a serial midi interface (thereby converting
> the serial device to USB basically)
>
> It sounds like you're ~ following option #2, and I'm going to try option
> #3 (which seemingly should also work)... I guess the biggest question
> now is what software to use for receiving and storing the Data Filer data?
>
> The user guide doesn't mention anything about this, but I assume there
> must be something on the computer side to accept the data stream...
>
> So if anyone has any suggestions / recommendations for this (especially
> on the Mac side), that would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks again,
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:03:51 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jim although coupling vintage with vintage is fascinating indeed, I
> recommend using a cheapish MIDI-to-USB adapter: I also tried for both
> 100 and 700, and something like this
> solve the
> problem.Keep the switch on 100's back set to MIDI.I'm conveniently using
> this and a Windows 7 laptop with the 100 Data Filer.
>
> Best
>
>




Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

Cheap USB-to-MIDI are excellent!

The only problem is that many of them have small buffers and cannot
sustain high transfer rates, that is, cannot do SYSEX dumps.

Unfortunately, as far as I know it doesn't exist a list of "working"
converters, I've seen also converters sold on eBay for 5€...

IMHO, any USB-MIDI cable in the price range you cited (>15€) can do the job.

On 02/03/20 14:51, squishy via Groups.Io wrote:
I forgot to add that I use a TiTo USB-MIDI interface. That was a 15€
amazon purchase. Works grand. I chose that though bcoz of MscOS
constraints.
On Monday, 2 March 2020, 14:48:18 CET, squishy <squishmusik@...>
wrote:


FYI: I use a QY70 with my Mac. It connects fine via OSX core MIDI Audio
Setup app. I then use the freeware app SysEx Lib to save/send QY70 bulk
dumps between Mac and QY. But this is all Ive attempted.

On Monday, 2 March 2020, 01:49:11 CET, jbjorklun via Groups.Io
<jbjorklun@...> wrote:


Thanks for the advice Prea - it is appreciated. After looking into this
some more, it sounds like there are 3 general ways to approach
connecting the QY100 to a computer:

1) Serial - adding a physical serial port ... via a serial model add-on
card (or pci adapter) + then a serial cable + a serial midi i/o

2) USB -? using any compatible USB midi device

3) USB serial - adding a USB device that adds a serial port that's
connected with a cable to a serial midi interface (thereby converting
the serial device to USB basically)

It sounds like you're ~ following option #2, and I'm going to try option
#3 (which seemingly should also work)... I guess the biggest question
now is what software to use for receiving and storing the Data Filer data?

The user guide doesn't mention anything about this, but I assume there
must be something on the computer side to accept the data stream...

So if anyone has any suggestions / recommendations for this (especially
on the Mac side), that would be much appreciated.

Thanks again,
Jim



On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:03:51 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Hi Jim although coupling vintage with vintage is fascinating indeed, I
recommend using a cheapish MIDI-to-USB adapter: I also tried for both
100 and 700, and something like this
solve the
problem.Keep the switch on 100's back set to MIDI.I'm conveniently using
this and a Windows 7 laptop with the 100 Data Filer.

Best


Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

I forgot to add that I use a TiTo USB-MIDI interface. That was a 15€ amazon purchase. Works grand. I chose that though bcoz of MscOS constraints.
On Monday, 2 March 2020, 14:48:18 CET, squishy <squishmusik@...> wrote:


FYI: I use a QY70 with my Mac. It connects fine via OSX core MIDI Audio Setup app. I then use the freeware app SysEx Lib to save/send QY70 bulk dumps between Mac and QY. But this is all Ive attempted.

On Monday, 2 March 2020, 01:49:11 CET, jbjorklun via Groups.Io <jbjorklun@...> wrote:


Thanks for the advice Prea - it is appreciated. After looking into this some more, it sounds like there are 3 general ways to approach connecting the QY100 to a computer:

1) Serial - adding a physical serial port ... via a serial model add-on card (or pci adapter) + then a serial cable + a serial midi i/o

2) USB -? using any compatible USB midi device

3) USB serial - adding a USB device that adds a serial port that's connected with a cable to a serial midi interface (thereby converting the serial device to USB basically)

It sounds like you're ~ following option #2, and I'm going to try option #3 (which seemingly should also work)... I guess the biggest question now is what software to use for receiving and storing the Data Filer data?

The user guide doesn't mention anything about this, but I assume there must be something on the computer side to accept the data stream...

So if anyone has any suggestions / recommendations for this (especially on the Mac side), that would be much appreciated.

Thanks again,
Jim



On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:03:51 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Hi Jim although coupling vintage with vintage is fascinating indeed, I recommend using a cheapish MIDI-to-USB adapter: I also tried for both 100 and 700, and something like this would solve the problem.Keep the switch on 100's back set to MIDI.I'm conveniently using this and a Windows 7 laptop with the 100 Data Filer.

Best


Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

FYI: I use a QY70 with my Mac. It connects fine via OSX core MIDI Audio Setup app. I then use the freeware app SysEx Lib to save/send QY70 bulk dumps between Mac and QY. But this is all Ive attempted.

On Monday, 2 March 2020, 01:49:11 CET, jbjorklun via Groups.Io <jbjorklun@...> wrote:


Thanks for the advice Prea - it is appreciated. After looking into this some more, it sounds like there are 3 general ways to approach connecting the QY100 to a computer:

1) Serial - adding a physical serial port ... via a serial model add-on card (or pci adapter) + then a serial cable + a serial midi i/o

2) USB -? using any compatible USB midi device

3) USB serial - adding a USB device that adds a serial port that's connected with a cable to a serial midi interface (thereby converting the serial device to USB basically)

It sounds like you're ~ following option #2, and I'm going to try option #3 (which seemingly should also work)... I guess the biggest question now is what software to use for receiving and storing the Data Filer data?

The user guide doesn't mention anything about this, but I assume there must be something on the computer side to accept the data stream...

So if anyone has any suggestions / recommendations for this (especially on the Mac side), that would be much appreciated.

Thanks again,
Jim



On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:03:51 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Hi Jim although coupling vintage with vintage is fascinating indeed, I recommend using a cheapish MIDI-to-USB adapter: I also tried for both 100 and 700, and something like this would solve the problem.Keep the switch on 100's back set to MIDI.I'm conveniently using this and a Windows 7 laptop with the 100 Data Filer.

Best


Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

Hi again Jim
I see two independent issues here, and I'va found a way to sort both out.

First, connectivity.
the QYs (the 70 on the right side, the 100 at back right) have a switch
to choose among _four_ (!) different connection possibilities.
Three out of four simply deal with the kind of serial cable that can be
connected on the "to host" mini DIN. In all three cases we're dealing
with basic RS-232 cables. Both 70 and 100 manuals have cable schematics.

Nowadays, having a computer (PC or MAC doesn't matter) with an RS-232
connection is rather unlikely, whereas USB is ubiquitous.

So, instead of buying an USB<-->RS232 converter, then plug tne
appropriate cable (BTW for Apple is it the glorious LaserPrinter serial
cable!), it is better to buy an USB<-->MIDI converter and go via the
MIDI connectors.

I tried first with a cheap USB<-->MIDI, see my previous email.
I use the QY100 mostly away from the studio, but when I need to hook it
up I either plug the two MIDI ports in the MIDI to USB or straight into
an Edirol UM880 that I recently added as the "MIDI-USB" hub.

Note that there is no difference at all among the four possible hardware
connections.


Second issue is what software and format to use.
Dealing with the software, I use the Data Filer software under Windows 7.
I save "dumps" both for the whole memory and also for single styles.
Mind that dumps can only be restored on the QY itself (or moved from one
QY100 to another). Actually, I use dumps just for backup.

More than often, instead, I download a finished song as a SMF (Standard
Midi File), to open it in a DAW, or load MIDI files from PC to the QY to
slice them into patterns and phrases.

This way, I can use the MIDI<-->USB connection both to drive external
gear, as well as to interface with a DAW, and also to
backup/restore/upload/download MIDI data.

Just a last note: remember to configure the QY to use an external clock,
or the Data Filer won't work. More on this later, since now I'm away
from the studio and my notes.

Best

On 02/03/20 01:49, jbjorklun via Groups.Io wrote:
Thanks for the advice Prea - it is appreciated. After looking into this
some more, it sounds like there are 3 general ways to approach
connecting the QY100 to a computer:

1) Serial - adding a physical serial port ... via a serial model add-on
card (or pci adapter) + then a serial cable + a serial midi i/o

2) USB -? using any compatible USB midi device

3) USB serial - adding a USB device that adds a serial port that's
connected with a cable to a serial midi interface (thereby converting
the serial device to USB basically)

It sounds like you're ~ following option #2, and I'm going to try option
#3 (which seemingly should also work)... I guess the biggest question
now is what software to use for receiving and storing the Data Filer data?

The user guide doesn't mention anything about this, but I assume there
must be something on the computer side to accept the data stream...

So if anyone has any suggestions / recommendations for this (especially
on the Mac side), that would be much appreciated.

Thanks again,
Jim



On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:03:51 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Hi Jim although coupling vintage with vintage is fascinating indeed, I
recommend using a cheapish MIDI-to-USB adapter: I also tried for both
100 and 700, and something like this
would solve the
problem. Keep the switch on 100's back set to MIDI. I'm conveniently
using this and a Windows 7 laptop with the 100 Data Filer.

Best


Re: Connecting QY100 to Computer Via USB to Serial Adapter?

 

Thanks for the advice Prea - it is appreciated. After looking into this some more, it sounds like there are 3 general ways to approach connecting the QY100 to a computer:

1) Serial - adding a physical serial port ... via a serial model add-on card (or pci adapter) + then a serial cable + a serial midi i/o

2) USB -? using any compatible USB midi device

3) USB serial - adding a USB device that adds a serial port that's connected with a cable to a serial midi interface (thereby converting the serial device to USB basically)

It sounds like you're ~ following option #2, and I'm going to try option #3 (which seemingly should also work)... I guess the biggest question now is what software to use for receiving and storing the Data Filer data?

The user guide doesn't mention anything about this, but I assume there must be something on the computer side to accept the data stream...

So if anyone has any suggestions / recommendations for this (especially on the Mac side), that would be much appreciated.

Thanks again,
Jim



On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:03:51 AM CST, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Hi Jim although coupling vintage with vintage is fascinating indeed, I recommend using a cheapish MIDI-to-USB adapter: I also tried for both 100 and 700, and something like this would solve the problem. Keep the switch on 100's back set to MIDI. I'm conveniently using this and a Windows 7 laptop with the 100 Data Filer.

Best