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Re: hello

 

hey julien

thanx for your feedback.?

if you are on linux try hexter fm synthesizer

as far as i understood it a dx7 software version that can also exchange patches with real dx7

have fun?

nikola



hello

julien
 

hello i read you since few month and it's interesting,i have heard your works nikolaie and it's really awesome especially the fm album.
here i've not rewired my tx 7 to my computer since i move on linux indeed i search agood editor for linux(i have the dx herr mueller but i will do really quickly) i'm impress to your capacities to talk about fm

julien


Re: Quick Help (please)

 

Thanks Bruce,

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Thats very interesting and i appreciate your help and adivce.

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i received an automated-reply from the Yahoo?Team saying someone will respond in due course.

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i was thinking, have you never considered creating/running your OWN Yamaha DX Forum ??? i am sure you could do a much better job than Yahoo are doing !!? Just a thought.

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Best,

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Paul

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Re: Re : Quick Help (please)

Daniel Forró
 

That's bad... I don't know how to avoid similar problems. But members of other groups where I am also member complained a lot about new system.

I visit group page only when I want to download some file. Normally I use standard mail software in my computer (which is Mail under OSX on Mac) - I can receive messages and reply to them, that's enough.

Good luck, maybe somebody will find solution later. We can't expect Yahoo will return to the older system.?

Daniel


On 14 Dec, 2013, at 12:45 AM, <paulseaman1@...> <paulseaman1@...> wrote:



Thanks a lot Daniel.

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Yes, it sounds like the very same issues you experienced (only worse !!).

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It is so frustrating because i can hardly do anything on this forum now and i wanted to make a few posts/replies etc.

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i have just email Yahoo asking them to look into it.? Even that took several attempts to send successfully because the submission process would not load and i recieved several Error messages.

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i tried also posting a Screenshot in the DXFiles forum but the system will not allow me to upload it !!

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Cheers,

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Paul





Re: Re : Quick Help (please)

Bruce Wahler
 

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Hi Paul,

Have you tried using an email address for sending and receiving mail in this forum?? If you have no other means, Google (gmail), Microsoft (hotmail) and Yahoo all provide free email accounts, along with online means to send/receive emails.

Frankly, I think that trying to get Yahoo Groups to correct your online problems is a waste of your time.? As owner and moderator of a couple of other forums -- and former moderator of a very large one -- I can tell you that support for Yahoo Groups is practically non-existent.? Even moderators and owners have no means of contacting Yahoo for proper support.? (If you actually receive a reply from Yahoo in less than a couple of weeks, I will be very pleasantly surprised.)? And as Daniel pointed out, it's unclear if Yahoo developers contacted anyone to ask if a) they wanted the new interface; and b) if there were any problems they would like to have seen fixed during the process.

Yahoo Groups is worth at least what we pay for it -- which, unfortunately, is nothing ...

Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
Ashby Solutions.com?
bw@...

877.55.ASHBY ?(877.552.7429)


Re : Quick Help (please)

 

Thanks a lot Daniel.

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Yes, it sounds like the very same issues you experienced (only worse !!).

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It is so frustrating because i can hardly do anything on this forum now and i wanted to make a few posts/replies etc.

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i have just email Yahoo asking them to look into it.? Even that took several attempts to send successfully because the submission process would not load and i recieved several Error messages.

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i tried also posting a Screenshot in the DXFiles forum but the system will not allow me to upload it !!

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Cheers,

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Paul


Re: Quick Help (please)

Daniel Forró
 

Do you mean our yahoo group?

Yes, the design (and unfortunately also functionality) was changed some time ago to NEO look, which is accompanied by many complaints from the side of members of?
many groups who have problems with it (including me).

Not the best idea from the side of yahoo.

I have no idea how to help with this, they didn't ask us if we want such change.

For one of my personal problems with NEO look, very long time to open some page and not load at all, I have found a solution. After clicking on some folder name, when I see "loading" alert ?I immediately click on small cross at right side in the window where is written address of that page, and then that page opens.

So do you use yahoo group page for reading the messages and answering them? It was not much friendly even before, and now... near to the impossible.?

Daniel Forro ?

On 13 Dec, 2013, at 8:08 AM, <paulseaman1@...> <paulseaman1@...> wrote:

i am not sure if something has changed on here but the site won't load pages (sometimes) and also, in general, pages are extremely slow to load ??

i am also not able to view (ie?scroll down to or 'search' for) previous?posts or call up my own threads ??
Any help would be very much appreciated !!


Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks

Daniel Forró
 

Hi, Nikola,

thanks for your sounds. I have answered your PM :-)

All the best!

Daniel


On 13 Dec, 2013, at 4:26 AM, <njeremic@...> <njeremic@...> wrote:



Hey group

Really lots of thanx for a great docs, list and documents.

ill compare this with my dx27s and update it

until the i uploaded my dx27 sysex bank of 24 presets

its in the group files uner "niko dx27 patches" file niko_dx27.syx

or here




my personal naming of the patches so sory for that :)

many sounds use extensively mod wheel-lfo thing


Daniel, can i write u a private message?

best?

nikola



Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks

Daniel Forró
 

Him Eb,

thanks for tips, I will study it.

Daniel Forro


On 10 Dec, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Eb Mayat wrote:



Hello Daniel

Hi, Eb,

I think that the most practical table should have the value of instrument setting, value in Hz and maybe additionally value in BPM (which can be easily derived from Hz).?
The last one is not so important to me, I don't need synced modulations for my music. Besides different values can be used for the same tempo in dependance which rhythmic density we want to get - so 30, 60, 120 or 240 is same tempo, just different density. With some simple math it's easy to obtain triplets, quintuplets, sextuplets...

Absolutely correct!?

I know something about VST plugins and use some but I always thought they are special Mac versions. When Nikola emphasizes?his plugin is for Windows I'm not sure if it can work on Mac.

I haven't Cubase nor Studio One, only MOTU Digital Performer V5 under OSX which I don't use. To be able to use old Korg cards Oasys PCI and 1212 I/O I still keep old PPC G4 machines and use OS9 for most of my music software (I like a lot the old sequencer Opcode Studio Vision Pro). I can boot only OSX 10.5.8, so I can't use lot of new programs.?

Oh I see, right if you have a PPC Mac then you would need specially compiled VSTs. The following links should be of special interest to you.
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Best wishes,
Eb



Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks

Daniel Forró
 

Very good job you did indeed! Thanks for description.

Daniel Forro

On 10 Dec, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:

- Very low frequencies where measured by measuring the time of a cycle in
a wave editor or with a stopwatch.

- Normal low frequencies where measured simply by counting the number
of "beats" in a certain timespan (one minute for example)

- Higher frequencies where measured using a wave editor and viewing the
starting points of the cycles.

- In the case of for example the FB01 I have reverse-engineered a formula
that produced a table that (almost) matched my measurements.

LFO_freq_Hz = 48. * (2 ^ (1. / 16.)) ^ (i - 250)

the number '48' was the frequency I measured for i=250, where i is in the
range 0 to 255 (8 bits).

(If anyone can reverse-engineer a similar formula for the DX7, DX11, etc:
that would be nice so let us know!)

- Missing values where calculated using interpolation and extrapolation

- The precision that my tablevalues suggest is probably higher than the
real precision.

- As extra study material I used a specification doc for one of the Yamaha
FM chips (google seacrh for ym2151synthesis.pdf) that contained a table
with values. I have attached a page from this document to this mail.

MT


Re: Quick Help (please)

 

Thanks vbrotz,

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i have done those things just now ta.

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But i am still not even able to reply to your message directly using the 'Reply' function ??? i keep getting a ERROR ON PAGE message.

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Thanks a lot.

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Paul


Re: Quick Help (please)

 

It works fine for me ,may need to clean up your computer.Do a disk clean up ,delete browsing history ,and cookies ect,ect than try it.



Quick Help (please)

 

Hi folks,

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i really appreciate all the help from everyone this year !!?

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i am not sure if something has changed on here but the site won't load pages (sometimes) and also, in general, pages are extremely slow to load ??

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i am also not able to view (ie?scroll down to or 'search' for) previous?posts or call up my own threads ??

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Any help would be very much appreciated !!

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Thanks guys.........

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Paul


Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks

 

Hey group

Really lots of thanx for a great docs, list and documents.

ill compare this with my dx27s and update it

until the i uploaded my dx27 sysex bank of 24 presets

its in the group files uner "niko dx27 patches" file niko_dx27.syx

or here


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B74jIqd_amgYT3l0TmVXUmh0Z28/edit?usp=sharing


my personal naming of the patches so sory for that :)

many sounds use extensively mod wheel-lfo thing


Daniel, can i write u a private message?

best?

nikola


Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks

 

- In the case of for example the FB01 I have reverse-engineered a formula?
that produced a table that (almost) matched my measurements.

LFO_freq_Hz = 48. * (2 ^ (1. / 16.)) ^ (i - 250)

the number '48' was the frequency I measured for i=250, where i is in the?
range 0 to 255 (8 bits).

(If anyone can reverse-engineer a similar formula for the DX7, DX11, etc:?
that would be nice so let us know!)

Hello Martin et al,

In the case of the DX11, the formula is?
LFO_frequency(Hz) = 0.0057192*x.^2 - 0.0033085*x - 0.0171263
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where x is the LFO setting ranging from 0 - 99.

(Attachment enclosed).

Regards, Eb


On Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:47 AM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
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This might be helpful too:

http://testtone.com/calculators/lfo-speed-calculator

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MT



Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks

 

This might be helpful too:




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MT


Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks

 

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Eb Mayat wrote:

Hello Martin
Many thanks for the LFO parameter tables.
With regards to the DX11, on page 9 of the manual, the LFO --> Speed section
states:
"At a setting of 35, the LFO will make 6.7 cycles per second and at 99, 55
cycles per second."
So looking at your table, the Hz value for the LFO setting of 35 concurs
with that in the manual. There is, however, a slight discrepancy for the Hz
values corresponding to the LFO setting of 99. Did you calculate the values
according to some equation ? . . . or was this table obtained from a certain
source ?
If I look at the table 97, 98, 99 all have 52.91Hz. If I remember correctly this table was created using handmade measurements, guesses, and calculations. The highest values were probably missing or difficult to measure. if 97=52.91Hz, a value 99=55 Hz could be well right. 53 vs 55 Hz is not really bad IMO.

But maybe I can smoothen the table a bit more. Suggestions for improvements are always welcome.

I have attached PDF and Excel version of the table (same values as the previously posted txt version) to this message.

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MT


Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks

 

Hello Daniel

Hi, Eb,

I think that the most practical table should have the value of instrument setting, value in Hz and maybe additionally value in BPM (which can be easily derived from Hz).?
The last one is not so important to me, I don't need synced modulations for my music. Besides different values can be used for the same tempo in dependance which rhythmic density we want to get - so 30, 60, 120 or 240 is same tempo, just different density. With some simple math it's easy to obtain triplets, quintuplets, sextuplets...

Absolutely correct!?

I know something about VST plugins and use some but I always thought they are special Mac versions. When Nikola emphasizes?his plugin is for Windows I'm not sure if it can work on Mac.

I haven't Cubase nor Studio One, only MOTU Digital Performer V5 under OSX which I don't use. To be able to use old Korg cards Oasys PCI and 1212 I/O I still keep old PPC G4 machines and use OS9 for most of my music software (I like a lot the old sequencer Opcode Studio Vision Pro). I can boot only OSX 10.5.8, so I can't use lot of new programs.?

Oh I see, right if you have a PPC Mac then you would need specially compiled VSTs. The following links should be of special interest to you.

Best wishes,
Eb



On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:00 PM, Daniel Forró wrote:
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Hi, Eb,

I think that the most practical table should have the value of instrument setting, value in Hz and maybe additionally value in BPM (which can be easily derived from Hz).?
The last one is not so important to me, I don't need synced modulations for my music. Besides different values can be used for the same tempo in dependance which rhythmic density we want to get - so 30, 60, 120 or 240 is same tempo, just different density. With some simple math it's easy to obtain triplets, quintuplets, sextuplets...

I suppose values will be different for different Yamaha synths, as almost each of them has different minimal value... It's also quite expectable that we'll get only some tempo values, not all values continuously.

I know something about VST plugins and use some but I always thought they are special Mac versions. When Nikola emphasizes?his plugin is for Windows I'm not sure if it can work on Mac.

I haven't Cubase nor Studio One, only MOTU Digital Performer V5 under OSX which I don't use. To be able to use old Korg cards Oasys PCI and 1212 I/O I still keep old PPC G4 machines and use OS9 for most of my music software (I like a lot the old sequencer Opcode Studio Vision Pro). I can boot only OSX 10.5.8, so I can't use lot of new programs.?

Daniel Forro


On 10 Dec, 2013, at 5:53 AM, Eb Mayat wrote:

I would guess that 120 bpm would be equivalent to 2 Hz.?

Wow, you have very interesting ideas using just a 4OP synth.

I only regret I'm on Mac so probably I can't try your excellent plugin.

Daniel, VSTs can be loaded in Cubase and perhaps also Presonus Studio One running on an Apple Mac.

Regards,?
Eb





Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks [1 Attachment]

 

Okay right, I have just read your next message. Eb


On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:16 AM, Eb Mayat wrote:
Hello Martin

Many thanks for the LFO parameter tables.
With regards to the DX11, on page 9 of the manual, the LFO --> Speed section states:

"At a setting of 35, the LFO will make 6.7 cycles per second and at 99, 55 cycles per second."

So looking at your table, the Hz value for the LFO setting of 35 concurs with that in the manual. There is, however, a slight discrepancy for the Hz values corresponding to the LFO setting of 99. Did you calculate the values according to some equation ? . . . or was this table obtained from a certain source ?

Many thanks,
Eb


On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:26 AM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
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[ from Martin Tarenskeen included below]


On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:

> - As extra study material I used a specification doc for one of the Yamaha
> FM chips (google seacrh for ym2151synthesis.pdf) that contained a table
> with values. I have attached a page from this document to this mail.

Attached now :-)

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MT





Re: LFO Speed in BPM and some LFO tricks [1 Attachment]

 

Hello Martin

Many thanks for the LFO parameter tables.
With regards to the DX11, on page 9 of the manual, the LFO --> Speed section states:

"At a setting of 35, the LFO will make 6.7 cycles per second and at 99, 55 cycles per second."

So looking at your table, the Hz value for the LFO setting of 35 concurs with that in the manual. There is, however, a slight discrepancy for the Hz values corresponding to the LFO setting of 99. Did you calculate the values according to some equation ? . . . or was this table obtained from a certain source ?

Many thanks,
Eb


On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:26 AM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
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[ from Martin Tarenskeen included below]


On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:

> - As extra study material I used a specification doc for one of the Yamaha
> FM chips (google seacrh for ym2151synthesis.pdf) that contained a table
> with values. I have attached a page from this document to this mail.

Attached now :-)

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MT