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Re: AH3 vs FC40

raimo ilkka
 

Ok Jan. Thanks for reply.

Your system in the boat sounds Good.
I have tried sometimes "resonating" counterpoises.
At the moment there is only one for 20m.

Some years ago I had wooden motorboat abt 7m long with cabin
for sleeping and driving. I wish to have that time this kind
modern radios with auto ATUs that time.I was using IC730 with
HomeMade ATU, Antenna was 4 m long fiberglass stick.
Ground was done by seweral connections to engine and steels outside.
Now I am driving small fiberglass boat with windscreen and 30 hp outboard.
There is no space for radios..


part of 80m. To make it tune 80m I have to add a 0.4m
pigtail to the
antenna connection of the tuner, parallel to the antenna
wire.
How is that pigtail positioning when it is working, how did you found
idea to use it ? That is intresting!

As I have told, winter is soon here, this weekend goeing to cottage
to empy all water tanks and pots. There is only IC730 and G5RV, my
20 years old base station, still working very well.

FT897/FC40 are already at town QTH. FT897 is now connected to multiband vertical on the top of roof. Inv L antenna is fed by IC706/AH3 .
After you writing, I have to make fast some counterpoises with L ant,
before snow and ice comes.

73s es gl dx de rami, oh6bi


--- On Mon, 27/10/08, fil_jds <fil_jds@...> wrote:

From: fil_jds <fil_jds@...>
Subject: [YaesuTuner] Re: AH3 vs FC40
To: YaesuTuner@...
Date: Monday, 27 October, 2008, 3:53 PM
Rami,

yes indeed you might need a good counterpoise system. The
best
starting point is at least 1 tuned (cut for 1/4 wave
length) radial
per frequency you want to use, and stretch them on the
ground,
starting from a central ground bus bar point close to your
antenna
tuner.
Of course even better is a system with 16 or 32 radials in
a star
formation, but who has the available and free garden
surroundings to
do so....
On my sailing boat, the FC40 is working quite well with
following
counterpoise:
1. wide copper tape running from atu to a bronze underwater
object
(coupling to the seawter)
2. copper tape from atu ground connected to the stainless
steel "lifelines" that run along both sides of
the boat and are
about 8 m long
3. 2 tuned radials for 20 m and 2 tuned radials for 40m
running
along both sides of the boat on the deck, strapped to the
aluminium
toerails

The wire antenna is 9.60m long, and tunes all freq but only
upper
part of 80m. To make it tune 80m I have to add a 0.4m
pigtail to the
antenna connection of the tuner, parallel to the antenna
wire.

With this the FC40 tunes perfectly with SWR's lower
than 1.5:1 on
all ham bands. So when the FC40 cán tune a frequency, then
it works
super super fast.
I've made good DX contacts with this system on 20m and
on 17 m (even
japan) from the boat with only 100Watts.

Jan


--- In YaesuTuner@..., raimo ilkka
<oh6bi@...> wrote:

Thanks for your reply Jan.

When I bought FC40 I believed that it is as the
competitors.

After three months testing I finally found some wire
lengths
which were quite good, but even founded lengths were
not stable.

I checked many times my wiring and nothing was changed
after
earlier
weekend. Then it came two weeks "rains
season" and 23m wire
started behave same way as I got it working in the middle
of testing
period. Almost all bands were tuned again.. So, how was my
ground ?

I did plenty of works for ground system and still same
situation,
I didnt know what was goeing on ??
Making several tests and "speakings" through
HAM groups, no
explains.

My ground is not the best one but quite good anyway, I
really know
that.
I have told through this group how it is built, so I
am not goeing
to write that all agn.

My "final" feelings with FC40 are OK, if not
expecting that it can
tune whatever...

Like manual "standard" ATUs there are many
different types for
different antennas and bandwidths.

With FC40 5 or 10 percents away from the half wave
length is not
enough.
I have learned that it suppose to be at least 15 to 20
percents.

Maybe FC40 is built (or programmed) different way than
AH3 (or4),
because changes with the ground or soil are more
effective.

I have FT897 and I like it much. FC40 is the best
friend of that
Rig
and good thing them together is FC40s memory,,but,,
when antenna
system is stable.
I should have more time to continue testing after I
have got
some experience, but winter and other type of antennas
(magloop)
are taking my time now, maybe next summer at the cottage
agn.

I think best way to get FC40 working is against of
counterpoise,
then soil doesnot effect so much as straight
connection to gnd.

best regards and 73?s de rami, oh6bi


--- On Fri, 24/10/08, fil_jds <fil_jds@...>
wrote:

From: fil_jds <fil_jds@...>
Subject: [YaesuTuner] Re: AH3 vs FC40
To: YaesuTuner@...
Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 7:23 PM
Well Rami, this is what I was complaining about.
Apparently
the
tuning range (impedance matching range) of the
FC40 is
quite narrow
as compared to other ATU's. I think it is
only 15-600
Ohms Z. Don't
know about reactance tuning.
THis is why it mostly does not tune well on all
bands for a
given
wire length. One thing that can help id putting a
4:1 or
9:1 UNUN
between the wire and the ATU.

Jan
ON3ZTT

--- In YaesuTuner@...,
"oh6bi"
<oh6bi@> wrote:

Hi.

It was week ago I had HAM weekend with my
friend at
cottage.
My friend wanted to test his Icom rig in low
level QRM
QTH.

So, I took my AH3 tuner (almost similar as
FC40) to
cottage for him.
The 23 meter wire I found good during my
earlier tests
was used
with
AH3 and Icom radio.

I dont member exactly how 23wire was working
during
last year
tests,
but there was some frequencies where FC40
didnt tune.
Those FRGs
were
tuned perfectly with AH3. And FRGs what I
never tested
with FC40
was
tuned well by AH3. Even the down end 1.8 MHz
was tuned
nicely.

This FC 40 compared to AH3 has smaller coils
and
should be compare
with icom AH4. Unfortunately I dont have
AH4, just 2
pcs
AH3 and one FC40.

I am not telling that FC40 is not good. I
try to tell
that the HAM
has to know his stuff and make the things
working.
There is NO Perfect tuner what can tune
everything.

FC40 is goog stuff for Yaesu radios, but
have to think
how to use
it.

73s es GL DX de rami, oh6bi


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Re: AH3 vs FC40

fil_jds
 

Rami,

yes indeed you might need a good counterpoise system. The best
starting point is at least 1 tuned (cut for 1/4 wave length) radial
per frequency you want to use, and stretch them on the ground,
starting from a central ground bus bar point close to your antenna
tuner.
Of course even better is a system with 16 or 32 radials in a star
formation, but who has the available and free garden surroundings to
do so....
On my sailing boat, the FC40 is working quite well with following
counterpoise:
1. wide copper tape running from atu to a bronze underwater object
(coupling to the seawter)
2. copper tape from atu ground connected to the stainless
steel "lifelines" that run along both sides of the boat and are
about 8 m long
3. 2 tuned radials for 20 m and 2 tuned radials for 40m running
along both sides of the boat on the deck, strapped to the aluminium
toerails

The wire antenna is 9.60m long, and tunes all freq but only upper
part of 80m. To make it tune 80m I have to add a 0.4m pigtail to the
antenna connection of the tuner, parallel to the antenna wire.

With this the FC40 tunes perfectly with SWR's lower than 1.5:1 on
all ham bands. So when the FC40 cán tune a frequency, then it works
super super fast.
I've made good DX contacts with this system on 20m and on 17 m (even
japan) from the boat with only 100Watts.

Jan


--- In YaesuTuner@..., raimo ilkka <oh6bi@...> wrote:

Thanks for your reply Jan.

When I bought FC40 I believed that it is as the competitors.

After three months testing I finally found some wire lengths
which were quite good, but even founded lengths were not stable.

I checked many times my wiring and nothing was changed after
earlier
weekend. Then it came two weeks "rains season" and 23m wire
started behave same way as I got it working in the middle of testing
period. Almost all bands were tuned again.. So, how was my ground ?

I did plenty of works for ground system and still same situation,
I didnt know what was goeing on ??
Making several tests and "speakings" through HAM groups, no
explains.

My ground is not the best one but quite good anyway, I really know
that.
I have told through this group how it is built, so I am not goeing
to write that all agn.

My "final" feelings with FC40 are OK, if not expecting that it can
tune whatever...

Like manual "standard" ATUs there are many different types for
different antennas and bandwidths.

With FC40 5 or 10 percents away from the half wave length is not
enough.
I have learned that it suppose to be at least 15 to 20 percents.

Maybe FC40 is built (or programmed) different way than AH3 (or4),
because changes with the ground or soil are more effective.

I have FT897 and I like it much. FC40 is the best friend of that
Rig
and good thing them together is FC40s memory,,but,, when antenna
system is stable.
I should have more time to continue testing after I have got
some experience, but winter and other type of antennas (magloop)
are taking my time now, maybe next summer at the cottage agn.

I think best way to get FC40 working is against of counterpoise,
then soil doesnot effect so much as straight connection to gnd.

best regards and 73?s de rami, oh6bi


--- On Fri, 24/10/08, fil_jds <fil_jds@...> wrote:

From: fil_jds <fil_jds@...>
Subject: [YaesuTuner] Re: AH3 vs FC40
To: YaesuTuner@...
Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 7:23 PM
Well Rami, this is what I was complaining about. Apparently
the
tuning range (impedance matching range) of the FC40 is
quite narrow
as compared to other ATU's. I think it is only 15-600
Ohms Z. Don't
know about reactance tuning.
THis is why it mostly does not tune well on all bands for a
given
wire length. One thing that can help id putting a 4:1 or
9:1 UNUN
between the wire and the ATU.

Jan
ON3ZTT

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "oh6bi"
<oh6bi@> wrote:

Hi.

It was week ago I had HAM weekend with my friend at
cottage.
My friend wanted to test his Icom rig in low level QRM
QTH.

So, I took my AH3 tuner (almost similar as FC40) to
cottage for him.
The 23 meter wire I found good during my earlier tests
was used
with
AH3 and Icom radio.

I dont member exactly how 23wire was working during
last year
tests,
but there was some frequencies where FC40 didnt tune.
Those FRGs
were
tuned perfectly with AH3. And FRGs what I never tested
with FC40
was
tuned well by AH3. Even the down end 1.8 MHz was tuned
nicely.

This FC 40 compared to AH3 has smaller coils and
should be compare
with icom AH4. Unfortunately I dont have AH4, just 2
pcs
AH3 and one FC40.

I am not telling that FC40 is not good. I try to tell
that the HAM
has to know his stuff and make the things working.
There is NO Perfect tuner what can tune everything.

FC40 is goog stuff for Yaesu radios, but have to think
how to use
it.

73s es GL DX de rami, oh6bi


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Re: AH3 vs FC40

raimo ilkka
 

Thanks for your reply Jan.

When I bought FC40 I believed that it is as the competitors.

After three months testing I finally found some wire lengths
which were quite good, but even founded lengths were not stable.

I checked many times my wiring and nothing was changed after earlier
weekend. Then it came two weeks "rains season" and 23m wire started behave same way as I got it working in the middle of testing period. Almost all bands were tuned again.. So, how was my ground ?

I did plenty of works for ground system and still same situation,
I didnt know what was goeing on ??
Making several tests and "speakings" through HAM groups, no explains.

My ground is not the best one but quite good anyway, I really know that.
I have told through this group how it is built, so I am not goeing to write that all agn.

My "final" feelings with FC40 are OK, if not expecting that it can
tune whatever...

Like manual "standard" ATUs there are many different types for
different antennas and bandwidths.

With FC40 5 or 10 percents away from the half wave length is not enough.
I have learned that it suppose to be at least 15 to 20 percents.

Maybe FC40 is built (or programmed) different way than AH3 (or4),
because changes with the ground or soil are more effective.

I have FT897 and I like it much. FC40 is the best friend of that Rig
and good thing them together is FC40s memory,,but,, when antenna system is stable.
I should have more time to continue testing after I have got
some experience, but winter and other type of antennas (magloop) are taking my time now, maybe next summer at the cottage agn.

I think best way to get FC40 working is against of counterpoise,
then soil doesnot effect so much as straight connection to gnd.

best regards and 73?s de rami, oh6bi

--- On Fri, 24/10/08, fil_jds <fil_jds@...> wrote:

From: fil_jds <fil_jds@...>
Subject: [YaesuTuner] Re: AH3 vs FC40
To: YaesuTuner@...
Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 7:23 PM
Well Rami, this is what I was complaining about. Apparently
the
tuning range (impedance matching range) of the FC40 is
quite narrow
as compared to other ATU's. I think it is only 15-600
Ohms Z. Don't
know about reactance tuning.
THis is why it mostly does not tune well on all bands for a
given
wire length. One thing that can help id putting a 4:1 or
9:1 UNUN
between the wire and the ATU.

Jan
ON3ZTT

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "oh6bi"
<oh6bi@...> wrote:

Hi.

It was week ago I had HAM weekend with my friend at
cottage.
My friend wanted to test his Icom rig in low level QRM
QTH.

So, I took my AH3 tuner (almost similar as FC40) to
cottage for him.
The 23 meter wire I found good during my earlier tests
was used
with
AH3 and Icom radio.

I dont member exactly how 23wire was working during
last year
tests,
but there was some frequencies where FC40 didnt tune.
Those FRGs
were
tuned perfectly with AH3. And FRGs what I never tested
with FC40
was
tuned well by AH3. Even the down end 1.8 MHz was tuned
nicely.

This FC 40 compared to AH3 has smaller coils and
should be compare
with icom AH4. Unfortunately I dont have AH4, just 2
pcs
AH3 and one FC40.

I am not telling that FC40 is not good. I try to tell
that the HAM
has to know his stuff and make the things working.
There is NO Perfect tuner what can tune everything.

FC40 is goog stuff for Yaesu radios, but have to think
how to use
it.

73s es GL DX de rami, oh6bi


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Re: AH3 vs FC40

fil_jds
 

Well Rami, this is what I was complaining about. Apparently the
tuning range (impedance matching range) of the FC40 is quite narrow
as compared to other ATU's. I think it is only 15-600 Ohms Z. Don't
know about reactance tuning.
THis is why it mostly does not tune well on all bands for a given
wire length. One thing that can help id putting a 4:1 or 9:1 UNUN
between the wire and the ATU.

Jan
ON3ZTT

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "oh6bi" <oh6bi@...> wrote:

Hi.

It was week ago I had HAM weekend with my friend at cottage.
My friend wanted to test his Icom rig in low level QRM QTH.

So, I took my AH3 tuner (almost similar as FC40) to cottage for him.
The 23 meter wire I found good during my earlier tests was used
with
AH3 and Icom radio.

I dont member exactly how 23wire was working during last year
tests,
but there was some frequencies where FC40 didnt tune. Those FRGs
were
tuned perfectly with AH3. And FRGs what I never tested with FC40
was
tuned well by AH3. Even the down end 1.8 MHz was tuned nicely.

This FC 40 compared to AH3 has smaller coils and should be compare
with icom AH4. Unfortunately I dont have AH4, just 2 pcs
AH3 and one FC40.

I am not telling that FC40 is not good. I try to tell that the HAM
has to know his stuff and make the things working.
There is NO Perfect tuner what can tune everything.

FC40 is goog stuff for Yaesu radios, but have to think how to use
it.

73s es GL DX de rami, oh6bi


AH3 vs FC40

oh6bi
 

Hi.

It was week ago I had HAM weekend with my friend at cottage.
My friend wanted to test his Icom rig in low level QRM QTH.

So, I took my AH3 tuner (almost similar as FC40) to cottage for him.
The 23 meter wire I found good during my earlier tests was used with
AH3 and Icom radio.

I dont member exactly how 23wire was working during last year tests,
but there was some frequencies where FC40 didnt tune. Those FRGs were
tuned perfectly with AH3. And FRGs what I never tested with FC40 was
tuned well by AH3. Even the down end 1.8 MHz was tuned nicely.

This FC 40 compared to AH3 has smaller coils and should be compare
with icom AH4. Unfortunately I dont have AH4, just 2 pcs
AH3 and one FC40.

I am not telling that FC40 is not good. I try to tell that the HAM
has to know his stuff and make the things working.
There is NO Perfect tuner what can tune everything.

FC40 is goog stuff for Yaesu radios, but have to think how to use it.

73s es GL DX de rami, oh6bi


Re: Testing starts Again !

oh6bi
 

First partly copy from the message I wrote to Jan, maybe it is
intresting to others:

About the FC40 testing, this summer was somehow more busy and not
enough time for one vawelenght loop testing, some tests I did but not
enough to store results to the web. You should member from my
messages that I am doing tests in the summercottage, not useful in
the wintertime.

One tricky test I did when camping at SRAL summerhappening (SRAL is
like ARRL here in OH country ). I got thought abt G5RV what I have
been using all my RadioTime.. abt 25 yrs, idea was to use the
standard G5RV length 31,5 meters straight from the FC40 and it was
working nicely with several bands, I didnt write up the results
because test was done in the bush.

I didnt hear enough OH stations with that G5RV mod and I made
horisontal one vawlength loop to 3,7 MHz , that one didnt work, I
dont know why ? Tuner did his work and SWR was OK, but no QSOs,
it still questionmark.

When I was in ZamBia ( 9j2bi) , I got better results with temporary
G5RV, than with 23 m long wire what I told in my earlier messages.
but it still good idea jusgt to throw wire over tree and start QSOs.
should be realistic.. it is not so easy ****
... and the ground is needed too

One thing more I have to tell you, at town qth I have inv L antenna,
horisontal length abt 42 meters and vertical part 21 meters,
horisontal part abt 18 meters high , free space.
After coming back from that camping I told, I was thinking maybe
something wrong in FC40. I installed FC40 instead of my AH3 (icom
similar stuff) and FC40/FT897 was working OK
all bands.. not so good as IC706/AH3, but good anyway.

--------
Now back to Reply itself.

Ok Jan, good reply.

OCF Dipole can be fed different ways as you described, always
have to find best way to fit your needs and what are possibilities.
I did some OCF tests, but they were not perfectly documented,
thatswhy I didnt wrote results here. It was working OK in some bands,
the 23m wire is better, Maybe because of better ground.
Longer wire was connected to FC40 output and shorter wire to Ground
connector, the "real" ground connection was only in my ground bar,
where all my stuff is grounded, FC40 was not connected there during
this test. Suppose to do more testing with OCF..

Once I made windom to my AH3 / IC706 so that feeding was one third
from "shorter" side and single feeding wire length abt 8 to 10 m .
Cottage ground was there in the AH3 gnd connector. Whole system was
like inverted V, shorter line to town direction and longer part to DX
direction. It was GOOD antenna, but also no documentation. I did it
abt 8 years ago. What to learn from this:

DOCUMENTATION IS IMPORTANT !!!!

After years you can member just something !

73s de rami, oh6bi




--- In YaesuTuner@..., "fil_jds" <fil_jds@...> wrote:

Hi Rami,

I am also "forced" to use the FC40 and in reality I regret not
having
bought the SGC-230 instead...
The FC40 seems to have only a limited impedance and reactance
tuning
range and therefore is rapidly 'running out of breath" with more
demanding antenna systems.
As you will have found out, it is quite difficult to find an end-
fed
wire length that it will tune all-band.
A 23m inverted L with goud ground system it will tune.
On my sailing boat it is really giving me a headache.I use a
sloping
backstay wire as wire antenna, with a halyard running down from
mast
top, sloping to port sisde aft, with heavy duty isolator through
the
deck and 40 cm extra wire untill the FC 40. As RF ground I use wide
copper tape running to engine mass and also to an underwater bronze
strut underwater. Via copper tape also coupled to the stailess
steel
lifelines that run on both sides of the boat, + 2 radials cut for
40m
and 2 cut for 20m.
I can only tune all band (and still miss bottom part of 80m) with
9.6m total wire length till FC40. 12.5 or 13m does not work.
The FC 40 is also very very sensitive to length even some distande
away from 1/2 waves.
I tried to insert a 1:9 Unun at bottom just before tuner, with
12.5m
wire. Works more or less but this is lossy.

Now why do you try to tune an OCF dipole? Do you mean installing
the
FC40 AT the antenna, just where the 2 uneven dipole halves meet?
Normally the impedance there should be around 300 Ohms for most of
the usable bands (since normally a 1:6 balun + good choke is
installed there before running down coax).
The FC40 should be able to handle that 300 Ohms!
But why don't you justhook the FC40 at the end of the coax at your
transceiver, and install the normal 1:6 balun at the antenna? The
FC40 should easily tune-up the slight SWR you will find with and
OCF
dipole on some bands.

Another idea: run down a twin lead (450 Ohms of 1/2 electrical wave
on lowest band, then a 1:1 current balun and this into your FC 40?
I
would guess this would be a very losless system?

In a field situation like the Zambia, I would use 20m, 17m and 15m
simple wire vertical dipoles (no tuner needed) and maybe an 80m
horizontal loop, hanging at leats 10m high, fed with twin lead out
of
corner, to a 1:4 balun at the tuner.

Jan
ON3ZTT










--- In YaesuTuner@..., "oh6bi" <oh6bi@> wrote:

Hello All after long winter !

Yesterday I put my boat to sea and today goeing to summer
cottage with FT897 and FC40..
If you dont know about me, just read some earlier messages
from oh6bi in this group.

OK, last messages during autumn I told to start testing
FC40 and OCF dipole, yes I will do that.

During this winter I spent 3 months in Zambia (9J2BI)
and I didnt get good contacs to Europe with 23m long Wire.
I installed The Wire four times to different directions
to get better EU signals, but no good success, only some
QSOs to Europe, none to OH. JA and UA9 where the best.
Also local QRM and QRN where strong with The Wire.

After that I did some tests with 7 MHz deltaloop and that was much
better. QRN and QRM where lower and receiving signals better.
Unfortunately work was disturbing The Hobby and not enough
time for the loop. That means I will start this summer experiments
with 7 MHz Delta Loop.

You will see what happens..

By the way, does anyone have information how FC40 really works ?
I mean would be nice to build "universal control box" same way
as many has done with Icom AH4(and AH3, what I am using with
IC706).
Check in AH4 section from
AA7OL Niko Takahashi: "AH4 connetion to any Radio".

Best Regards and 73s de rami, oh6bi


Re: Testing starts Again !

fil_jds
 

Hi Rami,

I am also "forced" to use the FC40 and in reality I regret not having
bought the SGC-230 instead...
The FC40 seems to have only a limited impedance and reactance tuning
range and therefore is rapidly 'running out of breath" with more
demanding antenna systems.
As you will have found out, it is quite difficult to find an end-fed
wire length that it will tune all-band.
A 23m inverted L with goud ground system it will tune.
On my sailing boat it is really giving me a headache.I use a sloping
backstay wire as wire antenna, with a halyard running down from mast
top, sloping to port sisde aft, with heavy duty isolator through the
deck and 40 cm extra wire untill the FC 40. As RF ground I use wide
copper tape running to engine mass and also to an underwater bronze
strut underwater. Via copper tape also coupled to the stailess steel
lifelines that run on both sides of the boat, + 2 radials cut for 40m
and 2 cut for 20m.
I can only tune all band (and still miss bottom part of 80m) with
9.6m total wire length till FC40. 12.5 or 13m does not work.
The FC 40 is also very very sensitive to length even some distande
away from 1/2 waves.
I tried to insert a 1:9 Unun at bottom just before tuner, with 12.5m
wire. Works more or less but this is lossy.

Now why do you try to tune an OCF dipole? Do you mean installing the
FC40 AT the antenna, just where the 2 uneven dipole halves meet?
Normally the impedance there should be around 300 Ohms for most of
the usable bands (since normally a 1:6 balun + good choke is
installed there before running down coax).
The FC40 should be able to handle that 300 Ohms!
But why don't you justhook the FC40 at the end of the coax at your
transceiver, and install the normal 1:6 balun at the antenna? The
FC40 should easily tune-up the slight SWR you will find with and OCF
dipole on some bands.

Another idea: run down a twin lead (450 Ohms of 1/2 electrical wave
on lowest band, then a 1:1 current balun and this into your FC 40? I
would guess this would be a very losless system?

In a field situation like the Zambia, I would use 20m, 17m and 15m
simple wire vertical dipoles (no tuner needed) and maybe an 80m
horizontal loop, hanging at leats 10m high, fed with twin lead out of
corner, to a 1:4 balun at the tuner.

Jan
ON3ZTT










--- In YaesuTuner@..., "oh6bi" <oh6bi@...> wrote:

Hello All after long winter !

Yesterday I put my boat to sea and today goeing to summer
cottage with FT897 and FC40..
If you dont know about me, just read some earlier messages
from oh6bi in this group.

OK, last messages during autumn I told to start testing
FC40 and OCF dipole, yes I will do that.

During this winter I spent 3 months in Zambia (9J2BI)
and I didnt get good contacs to Europe with 23m long Wire.
I installed The Wire four times to different directions
to get better EU signals, but no good success, only some
QSOs to Europe, none to OH. JA and UA9 where the best.
Also local QRM and QRN where strong with The Wire.

After that I did some tests with 7 MHz deltaloop and that was much
better. QRN and QRM where lower and receiving signals better.
Unfortunately work was disturbing The Hobby and not enough
time for the loop. That means I will start this summer experiments
with 7 MHz Delta Loop.

You will see what happens..

By the way, does anyone have information how FC40 really works ?
I mean would be nice to build "universal control box" same way
as many has done with Icom AH4(and AH3, what I am using with
IC706).
Check in AH4 section from
AA7OL Niko Takahashi: "AH4 connetion to any Radio".

Best Regards and 73s de rami, oh6bi


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Lightning protection and ByPass mode

oh6bi
 

Hi all

I am planning to install FC40 to the roof but I am worried
of lightning, now FC40 is in my balcony and I am able to
connect and disconnect the antenna wire from it.

How is FC40 built ? Is there something to eliminate electric
pulses , sure I dont mean from the straight shot.

What happens in FC40 when I turn my FT897 on, I can hear some
noice from FC40.
When Radio is on but not "tuned" is Tuner in ByPass mode ?

Does it give some extra protection if build sparking gap between
antenna wire and FC40 ?

73s de rami, oh6bi


Re: New FC-40 Owner questions

wb0m
 

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "kd4hri" <mark@...> wrote:

Anyone know if there is any reason to use the Yaesu YA-007 as opposed
to a generic 102 to 108 inch whip?
de k4ed
aka Mark Sunderlin
Hi Mark,
It think it's mostly to get more money out of your pocket - as if
gas prices aren't doing that already. I've never heard of any good
reason. The same goes for the Icom AH-4 and their whip. I've even
heard of people loading the fiberglass CB whips. GL & 73, Jeff/wb0m


New FC-40 Owner questions

kd4hri
 

Does anyone have a FC-40 and 102-108 inch whip mounted in a RAV4?

Anyone know if there is any reason to use the Yaesu YA-007 as opposed
to a generic 102 to 108 inch whip?

--
de k4ed
aka Mark Sunderlin


Testing starts Again !

oh6bi
 

Hello All after long winter !

Yesterday I put my boat to sea and today goeing to summer
cottage with FT897 and FC40..
If you dont know about me, just read some earlier messages
from oh6bi in this group.

OK, last messages during autumn I told to start testing
FC40 and OCF dipole, yes I will do that.

During this winter I spent 3 months in Zambia (9J2BI)
and I didnt get good contacs to Europe with 23m long Wire.
I installed The Wire four times to different directions
to get better EU signals, but no good success, only some
QSOs to Europe, none to OH. JA and UA9 where the best.
Also local QRM and QRN where strong with The Wire.

After that I did some tests with 7 MHz deltaloop and that was much
better. QRN and QRM where lower and receiving signals better.
Unfortunately work was disturbing The Hobby and not enough
time for the loop. That means I will start this summer experiments
with 7 MHz Delta Loop.

You will see what happens..

By the way, does anyone have information how FC40 really works ?
I mean would be nice to build "universal control box" same way
as many has done with Icom AH4(and AH3, what I am using with IC706).
Check in AH4 section from
AA7OL Niko Takahashi: "AH4 connetion to any Radio".

Best Regards and 73s de rami, oh6bi


FC-30 question

Irvin
 

Have FC-30 which meets my needs with my mobile FT-857D.
The tuner can be used for receive signals. Looking for commnents for
the advantages of using this option.

TNX
Irv
N0NOB


Re: fc-40 and feeder?

peterschrader2
 

Hi Colin,
Exactly what I do when operating portable, 300 ohm transmit grade
feeder about 15 metres long, feeding a longish doublet (60 metres
total I think, I must measure it some day). I hang it in some trees
when camping. Loads up on all bands 160 to 6 metres, and seems to
radiate quite well if I can get the wires up flat and high.

I tried using the FC40 with a vertical, pretty poor performer compared
to the screwdriver I use now while mobile (Codan 9350).

73,
Peter
VK4TGV



--- In YaesuTuner@..., "colin" <kinggreene2003@...> wrote:

well i have got a Ft-40 that came with the bundle of radio's that i
got a short while ago, i am wondering weather i could feed a "off
center dipole" with some 300 ohm feeder, something like a 33/66Ft
ratio?
i know it says dont use coax but if i just connect a wire i am limited
to about a 20 Ft vertical. any ideas?
colin KB3PNE


Re: fc-40 and feeder?

wb0m
 

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "colin" <kinggreene2003@...> wrote:
well i have got a Ft-40 that came with the bundle of radio's that i
got a short while ago, i am wondering weather i could feed a "off
center dipole" with some 300 ohm feeder, something like a 33/66Ft
ratio?
i know it says dont use coax but if i just connect a wire i am limited
to about a 20 Ft vertical. any ideas?
colin KB3PNE
Hi Colin,
Yes, you can connect the FC-40 to your OCF with twin lead. However,
I use 450 ladder line and have read that 300 sometimes is not the best
because of the spacing between the leads wires.
I am unsure about your "don't use coax" comment. You need to use
coax between the tuner and radio, of course, but coax between the
tuner and antenna is a no-no. The loss will be much to great.
I also use a I.C.E. lightning suppressor for twin lead wire between
the coupler and my OCF.
GL & 73, Jeff/wb0m


fc-40 and feeder?

colin
 

well i have got a Ft-40 that came with the bundle of radio's that i
got a short while ago, i am wondering weather i could feed a "off
center dipole" with some 300 ohm feeder, something like a 33/66Ft ratio?
i know it says dont use coax but if i just connect a wire i am limited
to about a 20 Ft vertical. any ideas?
colin KB3PNE


lindy cables

 

O.K. I have the 5mts long lindy cables. I want to be able to use the tuner from a longer
distance. How should I connect the cables? I believe the lindy cables are not 1 to 1, 2 to 2, 3
to 3, etc. Can anyone help?, thanks from N1mxb, Carlos.


I am gettting

Gerald Gaule
 

This is KE7GGV...Albany Oregon..I am getting a YAESU FT-707 and looking
at the FC-707 Antenna Tuner....does anyone own one out there...I need
any information,tips,ideas,quirks...any info will help..Thanks for your
time...DE KE7GGV...73

ke7ggv@...


take care


www.qrz.com/callsign/ke7ggv


Re: Control Cable revisited

wb0m
 

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "dj5hd" <jurgen@...> wrote:

I made several control cables for me and my friends using CAT-5 cable,
20m long, all work fine. The shields were connected to the metal parts
of the mini-DIN connectors.

73, Jurgen, DJ5HD
Hello Jurgen,
Tnx fer taking the time to reply. I've decided to replace the CAT-5
cable I now use with 8 conductor rotor wire. I cut the cable that
Yaesu gave me and will splice the wire in between. At the tuner end
I'll use a terminal strip and place it in a waterproof container and
on the radio end I'll use a 9-pin molex connector so I can disconnect
during storms.
Tnx agn & 73, Jeff/wb0m