Sorry, I misunderstood.
My radio has voice, not vox.
At least they were thinking of
White Caners.
Douglas
On 11/2/2021 11:41 AM, Douglas Richards
wrote:
I bought Ft-847 from a
gentleman in New Brunswick about 4 years ago. It had a
couple of small issues.
AF/RF shaft was bent, found
an original on ebay. Memory backup battery was replaced with
a coin battery holder and a regular 2032 batt. Also had a
small problem with power flickering. Rebuilt the plug from
the power supply.
I primarily use for bouncing
off the ISS, when they are turned on, HI HI. It came with
vox.
Very happy
Douglas Richards VE3FFR?
On 11/2/2021 11:32 AM, Dennis Surek
via groups.io wrote:
I am very happy with my 847. Bought it 12 years ago through
Ebay. I knew I wanted one after using the 847 that had been
gifted to our club, the Niagara Peninsula Amateur Radio Club.
What's better than a rig that does everything ? Can't figure out
why Yaesu didn't spend another 25 cents and put in VOX. Wished
the sub-VFO tuned faster when you need it. Like others here, I
was unable to get the audio into the xmit packet output. With
the recent discussion here, I should finally be able to get that
working. This group is a great resource. 73 fer now de Dennis,
VE3XC FN02
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73
Douglas Richards VE3FFR
ve3ffr@...
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73
Douglas Richards VE3FFR
ve3ffr@...
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I bought Ft-847 from a
gentleman in New Brunswick about 4 years ago. It had a couple
of small issues.
AF/RF shaft was bent, found an
original on ebay. Memory backup battery was replaced with a
coin battery holder and a regular 2032 batt. Also had a small
problem with power flickering. Rebuilt the plug from the power
supply.
I primarily use for bouncing
off the ISS, when they are turned on, HI HI. It came with vox.
Very happy
Douglas Richards VE3FFR?
On 11/2/2021 11:32 AM, Dennis Surek via
groups.io wrote:
I am very happy with my 847. Bought it 12 years ago through Ebay.
I knew I wanted one after using the 847 that had been gifted to
our club, the Niagara Peninsula Amateur Radio Club. What's better
than a rig that does everything ? Can't figure out why Yaesu
didn't spend another 25 cents and put in VOX. Wished the sub-VFO
tuned faster when you need it. Like others here, I was unable to
get the audio into the xmit packet output. With the recent
discussion here, I should finally be able to get that working.
This group is a great resource. 73 fer now de Dennis, VE3XC FN02
--
73
Douglas Richards VE3FFR
ve3ffr@...
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I am very happy with my 847. Bought it 12 years ago through Ebay. I knew I wanted one after using the 847 that had been gifted to our club, the Niagara Peninsula Amateur Radio Club. What's better than a rig that does everything ? Can't figure out why Yaesu didn't spend another 25 cents and put in VOX. Wished the sub-VFO tuned faster when you need it. Like others here, I was unable to get the audio into the xmit packet output. With the recent discussion here, I should finally be able to get that working. This group is a great resource. 73 fer now de Dennis, VE3XC FN02
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Bought mine in the 90's and use it regularly mainly for 6 and 2 Meter SSB and WSJT-X. It has had very few problems over the years. Lost memories and the memory switch?is goofy. Still a good? HF back up rig and I take it into the field annually for Field Day.....I might have replaced?it if the IC-970 would have had 6 meters but since it doesn't the FT-847 remains my GO TO for 6 and 2.
Happy DX, 73 GARY? DN24 Central Idaho
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 8:14 AM Rob < g4ujs@...> wrote: This list has 158 members....and super quiet, I guess 158 people totally happy with their FT-847's
I am
73 de Rob G4UJS
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Bought my 847 new in in the 90's I think.. I love it....It's a early model....On air all most daily...Hal/WB4AEG
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:14 AM Rob < g4ujs@...> wrote: This list has 158 members....and super quiet, I guess 158 people totally happy with their FT-847's
I am
73 de Rob G4UJS
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This list has 158 members....and super quiet, I guess 158 people totally happy with their FT-847's
I am
73 de Rob G4UJS
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Yay!!!? Odd that the USB hub would be a factor, but glad you figured
it all out.
73, and enjoy the new mode!
Greg? KO6TH
Rob wrote:
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Greg and all,
Finally got it working.... remade the TRS lead and moved the
soundcard from a USB hub to an actual USB socket on PC. All good
now!!
73 de Rob G4UJS
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Greg and all,
Finally got it working.... remade the TRS lead and moved the soundcard from a USB hub to an actual USB socket on PC. All good now!!
73 de Rob G4UJS
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Re: Need Advice Getting into Satellite Operations
Hi Joe I have been using the 847 for over a year and it has worked very well for me. I do have rotatable antennas but I talk to many hams using the egg eaters with good success. I would suggest that you do use some form of computer tracking program if only for the Doppler corrections. It will save you endless headaches getting started. I have used SatPc32 and use it when I am roving with a handheld antenna… it gives you an extra hand when you do t have to worry about timing! Good luck and see you soon on the birds!? 73
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On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Joe via groups.io <jcwerth1@...> wrote:
? I’ve been using an 847 on satellite for about 4 years with excellent results! Good luck and feel free to email me via my QRZ page email for any detailed questions…. In my opinion, the egg beaters are expensive from M2, and best generally for only higher passes. ?But, several sat operators use them with good results. ?Good luck!
Joe. KE9AJ? On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:
?Hello.? For a long time I have wanted to get into satellites.? That will change next spring.? A few questions:
Question 1:? I have a Yaesu FT-847.? Is that still a very good radio to begin learning satellite operation?? To get my feet wet, so to speak.
Question 2.? I am thinking of using the M2 Egg Beater antenna system, no rotor and tracking software to mess with, keeping things simple to begin with.? Is the M2 Egg Beater antenna system really good for a newbie to start out with for satellite operation?? I can always upgrade later.
Question 3:? Are there any groups dedicated to satellite operations, listserv, 开云体育, other, I should be subscribed to?? I'm not aware of any here in the USA.
Thank you, 73 Richard AG5M
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Re: Need Advice Getting into Satellite Operations
I’ve been using an 847 on satellite for about 4 years with excellent results! Good luck and feel free to email me via my QRZ page email for any detailed questions…. In my opinion, the egg beaters are expensive from M2, and best generally for only higher passes. ?But, several sat operators use them with good results. ?Good luck!
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On Oct 15, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:
?Hello.? For a long time I have wanted to get into satellites.? That will change next spring.? A few questions:
Question 1:? I have a Yaesu FT-847.? Is that still a very good radio to begin learning satellite operation?? To get my feet wet, so to speak.
Question 2.? I am thinking of using the M2 Egg Beater antenna system, no rotor and tracking software to mess with, keeping things simple to begin with.? Is the M2 Egg Beater antenna system really good for a newbie to start out with for satellite operation?? I can always upgrade later.
Question 3:? Are there any groups dedicated to satellite operations, listserv, 开云体育, other, I should be subscribed to?? I'm not aware of any here in the USA.
Thank you, 73 Richard AG5M
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Re: Need Advice Getting into Satellite Operations
Hi Richard,
Hope to hear you on the satellites soon!? They are a lot of fun.
Yes, the FT847 is still a good satellite radio. It does full duplex and has decent power levels on both 2m and 70cm.? Hears good on both bands as well.? I have a FT847 and still have good luck on the satellites with it.?
The eggbeater antennas should work well also.? I have talked with quite a few operators on the satellites who are using eggbeaters.
One good email list for satellite operations is the Amsat-BB list.? You can learn more about it at:
73 John AF5CC
Hello.? For a long time I have wanted to get into satellites.? That will change next spring.? A few questions:
Question 1:? I have a Yaesu FT-847.? Is that still a very good radio to begin learning satellite operation?? To get my feet wet, so to speak.
Question 2.? I am thinking of using the M2 Egg Beater antenna system, no rotor and tracking software to mess with, keeping things simple to begin with.? Is the M2 Egg Beater antenna system really good for a newbie to start out with for satellite operation?? I can always upgrade later.
Question 3:? Are there any groups dedicated to satellite operations, listserv, 开云体育, other, I should be subscribed to?? I'm not aware of any here in the USA.
Thank you, 73 Richard AG5M
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Need Advice Getting into Satellite Operations
Hello.? For a long time I have wanted to get into satellites.? That will change next spring.? A few questions:
Question 1:? I have a Yaesu FT-847.? Is that still a very good radio to begin learning satellite operation?? To get my feet wet, so to speak.
Question 2.? I am thinking of using the M2 Egg Beater antenna system, no rotor and tracking software to mess with, keeping things simple to begin with.? Is the M2 Egg Beater antenna system really good for a newbie to start out with for satellite operation?? I can always upgrade later.
Question 3:? Are there any groups dedicated to satellite operations, listserv, 开云体育, other, I should be subscribed to?? I'm not aware of any here in the USA.
Thank you, 73 Richard AG5M
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I also have for sale a W2ENY products desk mic for Yaesu FT847, has 8 pin round mic connector on it.? You can read more about it at:?
https://www.w2eny.com/deskmic/?
Asking $30 shipped.
I can take paypal/check/MO.
73 John AF5CC
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The nightmare goes on............ wired up TRS...now have PTT working, the rig shows the word data when i TX... but output power is milliwatts..... i Used a little capacitor marked 104M, could it be blocking the audio? soundcard output on full!!
flat head Rob
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 10:46 PM, Greg D wrote:
Hi Rob,
Well if receive is working, the sound card is likely ok.? But 2m FT8 is still using SSB, not FM, right?? I believe the DIN connector aims at the FM world (i.e. for packet radio), so it might be taking audio from the DIN (because PTT is there), but delivering it to the wrong place.
Try this...? Put the rig in FM mode, minimum power, and see if you're getting the AUDIO out (check with an HT).? I bet you do.? That would confirm that you need to be connecting into the TRS jack.
If so, take the PTT line and run it through a 2.2k resistor to the Tip of the TRS plug, with the audio going through a small DC blocking cap (0.1uf or so; not critical).? Ring of the TRS to Line-in on the audio card.
Good luck!
Greg? KO6TH
Rob wrote:
Still struggling Greg....... I've wired up a 6pin DIN for the packet socket....as I only want FT8 for 2m.
I now have PTT working via RTS and CAT only reading frequency not controlling PTT line.
However, I still cant get any TX power out. Its still as if the audio isnt coming out of sound card.
I've just ordered another USB soundcard to see if that is the problem
RX works OK.
73
Rob G4UJS
still bashing head against that damn wall
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OK!!!! you have won the bet!!!!!
out comes a soldering iron again LOL.
TRS it is
73 es TKS
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 10:46 PM, Greg D wrote:
Hi Rob,
Well if receive is working, the sound card is likely ok.? But 2m FT8 is still using SSB, not FM, right?? I believe the DIN connector aims at the FM world (i.e. for packet radio), so it might be taking audio from the DIN (because PTT is there), but delivering it to the wrong place.
Try this...? Put the rig in FM mode, minimum power, and see if you're getting the AUDIO out (check with an HT).? I bet you do.? That would confirm that you need to be connecting into the TRS jack.
If so, take the PTT line and run it through a 2.2k resistor to the Tip of the TRS plug, with the audio going through a small DC blocking cap (0.1uf or so; not critical).? Ring of the TRS to Line-in on the audio card.
Good luck!
Greg? KO6TH
Rob wrote:
Still struggling Greg....... I've wired up a 6pin DIN for the packet socket....as I only want FT8 for 2m.
I now have PTT working via RTS and CAT only reading frequency not controlling PTT line.
However, I still cant get any TX power out. Its still as if the audio isnt coming out of sound card.
I've just ordered another USB soundcard to see if that is the problem
RX works OK.
73
Rob G4UJS
still bashing head against that damn wall
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Hi Rob,
Well if receive is working, the sound card is likely ok.? But 2m FT8
is still using SSB, not FM, right?? I believe the DIN connector aims
at the FM world (i.e. for packet radio), so it might be taking audio
from the DIN (because PTT is there), but delivering it to the wrong
place.
Try this...? Put the rig in FM mode, minimum power, and see if
you're getting the AUDIO out (check with an HT).? I bet you do.?
That would confirm that you need to be connecting into the TRS jack.
If so, take the PTT line and run it through a 2.2k resistor to the
Tip of the TRS plug, with the audio going through a small DC
blocking cap (0.1uf or so; not critical).? Ring of the TRS to
Line-in on the audio card.
Good luck!
Greg? KO6TH
Rob wrote:
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Still struggling Greg....... I've wired up a 6pin DIN for the
packet socket....as I only want FT8 for 2m.
I now have PTT working via RTS and CAT only reading frequency
not controlling PTT line.
However, I still cant get any TX power out. Its still as if the
audio isnt coming out of sound card.
I've just ordered another USB soundcard to see if that is the
problem
RX works OK.
73
Rob G4UJS
still bashing head against that damn wall
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Still struggling Greg....... I've wired up a 6pin DIN for the packet socket....as I only want FT8 for 2m.
I now have PTT working via RTS and CAT only reading frequency not controlling PTT line.
However, I still cant get any TX power out. Its still as if the audio isnt coming out of sound card.
I've just ordered another USB soundcard to see if that is the problem
RX works OK.
73
Rob G4UJS
still bashing head against that damn wall
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The PTT from the computer would be measured by an ohmmeter, not a
voltmeter.? It's an open circuit when not active, and a low
resistance when active.? There's a +8v (I think) bias on the Tip of
the TRS that is pulled down by the PTT line.? You need to have the
resistor in series so that the audio can still get through, and the
DC blocking cap so that the 8v bias isn't fed into your computer's
Line-out.
Be sure to have your ohmmeter's leads so that the correct polarity
voltage is applied to the PTT line.? Some (most?) meters put a
positive bias on the Red, some a minus.
Good luck!
Greg? KO6TH
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Hi Greg,
Thanks again.... I am sure it helps. So I need to use the TRS
socket. Now to find a 2k resistor and a capacitor!!!
Is there anyway of seeing the "signal" on the PTT..... clipping my
multimeter to the PTT wire and GND doesn't show me anything!
Cheers
Rob
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 07:57 PM, Greg D wrote:
Hi Rob,
You need to key the rig with the TRS jack, not the DIN.? The DIN
heads over to the FM world, and I don't recall it working with
the HF SSB modes, though I could be wrong.? My head was getting
rather flat from the wall it was hitting about then trying (as
you) to get the thing to work.? Again, the rig is trying to be
smart, and either over- or under-doing it.? The "quaint" (now
antiquated) model of the world was using separate, external TNCs
for HF and VHF digital, so they have separate jacks in the back
of the rig, and "logic" to try to figure out where the audio is
coming from.
The PTT "signal" is an open-collector style pull-down through
about a 2.2k resistor.? That goes to the Tip of the TRS plug
along with the audio after a 0.1uf DC blocking capacitor.? The
TRS "Ring" is the received audio that goes directly to the audio
line-in of the computer.
Hope this helps,
Greg? KO6TH
Rob wrote:
Thanks Greg & Tom
I think I understand but I still cant get it to work.
I was only wanting to use the 847 on 2m FT8 and was wiring
to the 6pin data socket only.
The soundcard USB Data mode cable I am using is a UD01UN. It
connects to a soundcard and has 3 wires to attach.
Audio Out,?Microphone Input and PTT.
I wired them to the 6 pin din to pins 5, 3, and 1 (I must
have the audio cables the right way as I can RX FT8)
I stopped using CAT for PTT and configured the PTT to use
RTS on the com port the data cable mode.
When I start WSJT the frequency is read (by CAT) and it
starts receiving......if I click on UTNE in wsjt the little
red light comes on in the data cable but the rig doesn't go
into Transmit :-(
I am now wondering whether there is a PTT signal coming out
of the Data cable....... The data cable doesn't show any
other connections to make... just the 3 (Audio
Out,?Microphone Input and PTT.) no GND connection. Should I
be able to see something happening on the PTT wire with my
multimeter?
TIA
regards
Rob (getting fed up now!)
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 06:42 PM, Greg D wrote:
What Tom said.?
The 847 is centered in the "uncanny valley of engineering"
with its handling of PTT.? Too smart, and not smart enough.?
It apparently tries to choose the audio source from wherever
PTT is sourced, so if PTT comes from the TRS jack on the
back (used for HF modes), audio from that source is used.?
Same for the Packet connector.? The problem comes with using
CAT.? There is no way to associate a particular audio source
when the rig is keyed with PTT, so it uses the hand Mike
input.? That is bonkers, because the Mike is the last place
one would expect audio to come from when using a computer to
key the rig.
So, the only way I was able to run FT-8 (et al) with the 847
is to key the rig from the TRS jack in the back, using a USB
Serial dongle and its RTS / DSR pins driving a small level
shifting circuit and DC-blocking capacitor.
For extra credit, try combining both HF and VHF digital
modes (both connectors) to a single Raspberry-Pi based
"TNC".? Can be done.? Not pretty.
Greg? KO6TH
K6EU wrote:
Not having?AF out connected to the tip
would cause the problem you are seeing.? ?I have a
FT-847 running FT8 using PTT multiplexed with AF out per
the manual.??
?
73,
?
Tom K6EU
?
?
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021
at 9:38 AM Rob < g4ujs@...>
wrote:
hi is anyone using the 847 for FT8.
I've connected sound card to data in/out
PTT is via CAT.
i can RX stations with both JTDX and WSJT.
When I hit tune the rig goes into TX but no power
output..... its as if the audio isn't getting into the
rig.
As i am using CAT for PTT I haven't wired PTT to the
tip of the data connector....is this my problem?
HELP!
73 de Rob G4UJS
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Sorry Rob.? I mis-read your post.? Don't know if not having PTT connected would cause your problem.? However, mine works fine with PTT and AF out multiplexed on the?tip.
73,
Tom K6EU
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 9:38 AM Rob < g4ujs@...> wrote:
hi is anyone using the 847 for FT8.
I've connected sound card to data in/out
PTT is via CAT.
i can RX stations with both JTDX and WSJT.
When I hit tune the rig goes into TX but no power output..... its as if the audio isn't getting into the rig.
As i am using CAT for PTT I haven't wired PTT to the tip of the data connector....is this my problem?
HELP!
73 de Rob G4UJS
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Hi Greg,
Thanks again.... I am sure it helps. So I need to use the TRS socket. Now to find a 2k resistor and a capacitor!!!
Is there anyway of seeing the "signal" on the PTT..... clipping my multimeter to the PTT wire and GND doesn't show me anything!
Cheers
Rob
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 07:57 PM, Greg D wrote:
Hi Rob,
You need to key the rig with the TRS jack, not the DIN.? The DIN heads over to the FM world, and I don't recall it working with the HF SSB modes, though I could be wrong.? My head was getting rather flat from the wall it was hitting about then trying (as you) to get the thing to work.? Again, the rig is trying to be smart, and either over- or under-doing it.? The "quaint" (now antiquated) model of the world was using separate, external TNCs for HF and VHF digital, so they have separate jacks in the back of the rig, and "logic" to try to figure out where the audio is coming from.
The PTT "signal" is an open-collector style pull-down through about a 2.2k resistor.? That goes to the Tip of the TRS plug along with the audio after a 0.1uf DC blocking capacitor.? The TRS "Ring" is the received audio that goes directly to the audio line-in of the computer.
Hope this helps,
Greg? KO6TH
Rob wrote:
Thanks Greg & Tom
I think I understand but I still cant get it to work.
I was only wanting to use the 847 on 2m FT8 and was wiring to the 6pin data socket only.
The soundcard USB Data mode cable I am using is a UD01UN. It connects to a soundcard and has 3 wires to attach.
Audio Out,?Microphone Input and PTT.
I wired them to the 6 pin din to pins 5, 3, and 1 (I must have the audio cables the right way as I can RX FT8)
I stopped using CAT for PTT and configured the PTT to use RTS on the com port the data cable mode.
When I start WSJT the frequency is read (by CAT) and it starts receiving......if I click on UTNE in wsjt the little red light comes on in the data cable but the rig doesn't go into Transmit :-(
I am now wondering whether there is a PTT signal coming out of the Data cable....... The data cable doesn't show any other connections to make... just the 3 (Audio Out,?Microphone Input and PTT.) no GND connection. Should I be able to see something happening on the PTT wire with my multimeter?
TIA
regards
Rob (getting fed up now!)
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 06:42 PM, Greg D wrote:
What Tom said.?
The 847 is centered in the "uncanny valley of engineering" with its handling of PTT.? Too smart, and not smart enough.? It apparently tries to choose the audio source from wherever PTT is sourced, so if PTT comes from the TRS jack on the back (used for HF modes), audio from that source is used.? Same for the Packet connector.? The problem comes with using CAT.? There is no way to associate a particular audio source when the rig is keyed with PTT, so it uses the hand Mike input.? That is bonkers, because the Mike is the last place one would expect audio to come from when using a computer to key the rig.
So, the only way I was able to run FT-8 (et al) with the 847 is to key the rig from the TRS jack in the back, using a USB Serial dongle and its RTS / DSR pins driving a small level shifting circuit and DC-blocking capacitor.
For extra credit, try combining both HF and VHF digital modes (both connectors) to a single Raspberry-Pi based "TNC".? Can be done.? Not pretty.
Greg? KO6TH
K6EU wrote:
Not having?AF out connected to the tip would cause the problem you are seeing.? ?I have a FT-847 running FT8 using PTT multiplexed with AF out per the manual.??
?
73,
?
Tom K6EU
?
?
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 9:38 AM Rob < g4ujs@...> wrote:
hi is anyone using the 847 for FT8.
I've connected sound card to data in/out
PTT is via CAT.
i can RX stations with both JTDX and WSJT.
When I hit tune the rig goes into TX but no power output..... its as if the audio isn't getting into the rig.
As i am using CAT for PTT I haven't wired PTT to the tip of the data connector....is this my problem?
HELP!
73 de Rob G4UJS
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Hal Dale
Richard AG5M