Re: My internal keyer isn't working
Hi Nils and welcome to the group.? I hope you are able to restore that fine radio.? However, with lighting strikes it could be just a fuse or it could lead to a whole lot of replacement parts needed.? Just depends on how much damage there is.? Good luck with it though and keep us in the loop as to your finding.
73 Russ, N4MAV
Hi guys,
I'm restoring an old FT-847 damaged by lightning a lot of years ago and had been lying in the schack collecting dust, according to the previous owner.
After replacing the main CPU on the AF/CNTRL board the radio woke up from it's Cinderella sleep and the most things are ok now except the internal keyer.
I have also replaced the one-chip microprocessor MB8854-1244M which in fact is the keyer.
It is impossible to key the transmitter in CW-mode, nothing happens when I try.
I have run out of ideas and if someone has any suggestions please share them with me.
73
Nils SM7DVO
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Welcome James, good of you to drop by and say hello.? I think you will find this group a lot of help with the FT-847, a lot of expertise to say the least.
73
Russ, N4MAV
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My internal keyer isn't working
Hi guys,
I'm restoring an old FT-847 damaged by lightning a lot of years ago and had been lying in the schack collecting dust, according to the previous owner.
After replacing the main CPU on the AF/CNTRL board the radio woke up from it's Cinderella sleep and the most things are ok now except the internal keyer.
I have also replaced the one-chip microprocessor MB8854-1244M which in fact is the keyer.
It is impossible to key the transmitter in CW-mode, nothing happens when I try.
I have run out of ideas and if someone has any suggestions please share them with me.
73
Nils SM7DVO
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Sure, I have a few IO sites myself, I know how to handle the in's and out's of IO groups.
Take a look at this one : /g/HallicraftersRadios
That one has over 1100 members.
Bill
K2WH
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Now where did I get the idea of buffalo?? Weird is what I say.? However, I think I have it fixed.??
73
Russ, N4MAV
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Bill, take? look now and let me know please.? I think I have it, but who the heck knows.? How would you like to be an admin?
73 Russ Abbey de:N4MAV
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 6:25 AM Bill < k2wh@...> wrote: Very nice image, however as of this writing, its still elephants.
K2WH
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FOR SALE Microkeyer 2 and LDG Antenna Tuner YT847
I have a YT847 for sale.? It is a very good antenna tuner made by LDG which is now discontinued. ?https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/1574.html
I also have a microham microkeyer2 which I used for digital modes with my 847.? www.microham-usa.com
I am looking to sell these.? Contact me off list at joe@... if interested.
Joe VA3JLF
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Re: RE?: [YaesuFT847] FT847 Memory manager
I have a YT847 for sale.? It is a very good antenna tuner made by LDG which is now discontinued. ?
I also have a microham microkeyer2 which I used for digital modes with my 847.??
I am looking to sell these.? Contact me off list at joe@... if interested.
Joe VA3JLF
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Thanks for this Group I have used the old group info to fix my radio a few times!
Wm AD0VB, was n9wdu upgraded
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Re: RE?: [YaesuFT847] FT847 Memory manager
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 10:09 AM, yvan skopek wrote:
http://microham-usa.com/store/index.php
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Their is another control cable for controlling a FC-20 Tuner and Rotor to! Can you read Germain?
https://www.qsl.net/dh1ngp/onlinehelpft847/OTT-847_interface_und_LDG_Tuner.htm
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I found this.
Wm AD0VB
https://pathwaytoascension.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/history-of-nesara/
On Monday, December 30, 2019, 1:37:58 AM CST, Ruben . <rubenkaf@...> wrote:
From what I could find, the info in the manual is the only CAT programming available. The other method is by Cloning, there are a few programs that update memories.
On Dec 29, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Icomratt via Groups.Io < icomratt@...> wrote: This site maybe of great help!
Wm AD0VB
On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 11:03:43 AM CST, Curt Bowles < curt.bowles@...> wrote:
FYI… some additional info…These are some of my old notes I had for my FT-847… you may find useful. ? The Upgrade for older version is no longer available ? The original design for the FT-847 did not include two-way CAT control operations for frequency and mode. You could use your PC to give commands to the radio, but the radio could not report back any frequency or mode information to the PC. Many, including QST, complained about this shortfall, and the company modified the firmware in the radio to enable two-way CAT control operations for frequency and mode. Starting with serial number 8G05xxxx, two-way CAT control is standard. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded.
The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded. ? The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded.
The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. Also see USB CAT Cable for Yaesu FT-847 and VR-5000 Radios
This cable is designed specifically for quick and easy CAT control of the Yaesu FT-847 and VR-5000 radios. An external power supply is not required. Simply hook it up to USB port. The power supply is done over the USB interface, following the USB 2.0 specs. This programming lead is not a straight forward cable, there is an internal converter circuit board mounted in the USB plug.
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The cable communicates directly with a PC through the now popular and standard USB interface. It emulates a Serial Port but that port communicates with a radio at TTL voltage levels. A Serial Port connection is not needed since the cable emulates one for you. The cable is compatible with all versions of Windows? that support USB operation. This only includes Windows? 98SE, ME, W2K, XP, Vista or higher.
?
Please click to download necessary USB drivers. As usual a virtual Serial Port is created, so that any Windows? based rig control software that is compatible with your computer and radio may be used. This zipped file is completed with full driver installation instructions. Product Code: UC09VM
| Price: $30.00 <image005.gif> | |
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| Includes: | USB 65 |
| | USB to DB-9 Null-Modem CAT programming cable for Yaesu FT-847.
Drivers for Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 (32 and 64 bit), or Windows 8 (full version) |
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? ? ? ? W4RT Dist for SuperControl CAT SW… $75.00 USA 75 euro  Bottom of Form ? ? 73, ? ? ? Hello Franco ? I can answer your question about the CAT.? I bought an early serial number 847 and when the radio debuted, it did not even have two way frequency and mode CAT, no CAT at all.? For some reason, Yaesu chose not to include any CAT at all.? Following an outcry, YAESU decided to include two way frequency and mode only in the CAT.? This was provided as a free firmware update.? I think they could not go any further with a firmware only change.? You also still have to choose between CAT and the ATAS antenna, cannot run both together.? Pity really because the radio is a great radio? otherwise. ? I have the original manual if you are interested. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? Thanks Ruben for the info....
If you see on the list, it is not possible to set the channel number and save or download the data contained in the radio.So at least it seems from the commands available and declared in the manual that they are not there.
The problem is that you cannot set the number of memories, through the normal CAT only set the frequencies.
The CAT of the FT847 is really very limited and also very poorly explained on the manual.
Since I would like to manage everything through external memory banks with CAT software,
self-built as I already do for other things between transceiver and shack management like my FT3000d BARalso to have the 7 smeter bar simultaneously visible and easily adjust the CONT and NOTCH options "difficult, complicated and not very usable" otherwise through the menu.),
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to better manage the limits of the FT847 SATELLITE 12 x memories and more such as the variation of the NR (which is not it is described as a CAT command, SAT TAG...), I think that the only possibility is to use the cmd and the dial of the CLONE emulated system:
Which in the manual does not report absolutely anything as a definition if not a setting in the menu which, however, does not describes the Up/Dw protocol.
It would seem that through software therefore another FT847 must be simulated and dialogue via the CLONE RADIO options (PAG 92>)
I tried to ask YAESU if there is better documentation. Unfortunately I have not found anything else.
73's
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Can you move FT-847 picture to where it needs to be, I have not the permissions for changing the main Group Picture
On Monday, December 30, 2019, 5:25:04 AM CST, Bill <k2wh@...> wrote:
Very nice image, however as of this writing, its still elephants.
K2WH
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Very nice image, however as of this writing, its still elephants.
K2WH
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From what I could find, the info in the manual is the only CAT programming available. The other method is by Cloning, there are a few programs that update memories.
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On Dec 29, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Icomratt via Groups.Io < icomratt@...> wrote: This site maybe of great help!
Wm AD0VB
On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 11:03:43 AM CST, Curt Bowles < curt.bowles@...> wrote:
FYI… some additional info…These are some of my old notes I had for my FT-847… you may find useful. ? The Upgrade for older version is no longer available ? The original design for the FT-847 did not include two-way CAT control operations for frequency and mode. You could use your PC to give commands to the radio, but the radio could not report back any frequency or mode information to the PC. Many, including QST, complained about this shortfall, and the company modified the firmware in the radio to enable two-way CAT control operations for frequency and mode. Starting with serial number 8G05xxxx, two-way CAT control is standard. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded.
The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded. ? The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded.
The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. Also see USB CAT Cable for Yaesu FT-847 and VR-5000 Radios
This cable is designed specifically for quick and easy CAT control of the Yaesu FT-847 and VR-5000 radios. An external power supply is not required. Simply hook it up to USB port. The power supply is done over the USB interface, following the USB 2.0 specs. This programming lead is not a straight forward cable, there is an internal converter circuit board mounted in the USB plug.
?
The cable communicates directly with a PC through the now popular and standard USB interface. It emulates a Serial Port but that port communicates with a radio at TTL voltage levels. A Serial Port connection is not needed since the cable emulates one for you. The cable is compatible with all versions of Windows? that support USB operation. This only includes Windows? 98SE, ME, W2K, XP, Vista or higher.
?
Please click to download necessary USB drivers. As usual a virtual Serial Port is created, so that any Windows? based rig control software that is compatible with your computer and radio may be used. This zipped file is completed with full driver installation instructions. Product Code: UC09VM
| Price: $30.00 <image005.gif> | |
| 
| Includes: | USB 65 |
| | USB to DB-9 Null-Modem CAT programming cable for Yaesu FT-847.
Drivers for Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 (32 and 64 bit), or Windows 8 (full version) |
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? ? ? ? W4RT Dist for SuperControl CAT SW… $75.00 USA 75 euro  Bottom of Form ? ? 73, ? ? ? Hello Franco ? I can answer your question about the CAT.? I bought an early serial number 847 and when the radio debuted, it did not even have two way frequency and mode CAT, no CAT at all.? For some reason, Yaesu chose not to include any CAT at all.? Following an outcry, YAESU decided to include two way frequency and mode only in the CAT.? This was provided as a free firmware update.? I think they could not go any further with a firmware only change.? You also still have to choose between CAT and the ATAS antenna, cannot run both together.? Pity really because the radio is a great radio? otherwise. ? I have the original manual if you are interested. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? Thanks Ruben for the info....
If you see on the list, it is not possible to set the channel number and save or download the data contained in the radio.So at least it seems from the commands available and declared in the manual that they are not there.
The problem is that you cannot set the number of memories, through the normal CAT only set the frequencies.
The CAT of the FT847 is really very limited and also very poorly explained on the manual.
Since I would like to manage everything through external memory banks with CAT software,
self-built as I already do for other things between transceiver and shack management like my FT3000d BARalso to have the 7 smeter bar simultaneously visible and easily adjust the CONT and NOTCH options "difficult, complicated and not very usable" otherwise through the menu.),
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to better manage the limits of the FT847 SATELLITE 12 x memories and more such as the variation of the NR (which is not it is described as a CAT command, SAT TAG...), I think that the only possibility is to use the cmd and the dial of the CLONE emulated system:
Which in the manual does not report absolutely anything as a definition if not a setting in the menu which, however, does not describes the Up/Dw protocol.
It would seem that through software therefore another FT847 must be simulated and dialogue via the CLONE RADIO options (PAG 92>)
I tried to ask YAESU if there is better documentation. Unfortunately I have not found anything else.
73's
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On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 4:42:46 PM CST, Bill <k2wh@...> wrote:
To the owner, when you get some time, could you kindly put up an appropriate image for this group.
Just a thought !
Bill
K2WH
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On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 4:42:46 PM CST, Bill <k2wh@...> wrote:
To the owner, when you get some time, could you kindly put up an appropriate image for this group.
Just a thought !
Bill
K2WH
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Hi Bill, what, don't you like the buffalo????
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 5:42 PM Bill < k2wh@...> wrote: To the owner, when you get some time, could you kindly put up an appropriate image for this group.
Just a thought !
Bill
K2WH
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To the owner, when you get some time, could you kindly put up an appropriate image for this group.
Just a thought !
Bill
K2WH
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This site maybe of great help!
Wm AD0VB
On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 11:03:43 AM CST, Curt Bowles <curt.bowles@...> wrote:
FYI… some additional info…These are some of my old notes I had for my FT-847… you may find useful. ? The Upgrade for older version is no longer available ? The original design for the FT-847 did not include two-way CAT control operations for frequency and mode. You could use your PC to give commands to the radio, but the radio could not report back any frequency or mode information to the PC. Many, including QST, complained about this shortfall, and the company modified the firmware in the radio to enable two-way CAT control operations for frequency and mode. Starting with serial number 8G05xxxx, two-way CAT control is standard. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded.
The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded. ? The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. ? In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded.
The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz. Also see USB CAT Cable for Yaesu FT-847 and VR-5000 Radios
This cable is designed specifically for quick and easy CAT control of the Yaesu FT-847 and VR-5000 radios. An external power supply is not required. Simply hook it up to USB port. The power supply is done over the USB interface, following the USB 2.0 specs. This programming lead is not a straight forward cable, there is an internal converter circuit board mounted in the USB plug.
?
The cable communicates directly with a PC through the now popular and standard USB interface. It emulates a Serial Port but that port communicates with a radio at TTL voltage levels. A Serial Port connection is not needed since the cable emulates one for you. The cable is compatible with all versions of Windows? that support USB operation. This only includes Windows? 98SE, ME, W2K, XP, Vista or higher.
?
Please click to download necessary USB drivers. As usual a virtual Serial Port is created, so that any Windows? based rig control software that is compatible with your computer and radio may be used. This zipped file is completed with full driver installation instructions. Product Code: UC09VM
| Price: $30.00 
| |
| 
| Includes: | USB 65 |
| | USB to DB-9 Null-Modem CAT programming cable for Yaesu FT-847.
Drivers for Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 (32 and 64 bit), or Windows 8 (full version) |
|
? ? ? ? W4RT Dist for SuperControl CAT SW… $75.00 USA 75 euro  Bottom of Form ? ? 73, ? ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph LaFerla
Sent: 22 December, 2019 08:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] FT847 Memory manager ? Hello Franco ? I can answer your question about the CAT.? I bought an early serial number 847 and when the radio debuted, it did not even have two way frequency and mode CAT, no CAT at all.? For some reason, Yaesu chose not to include any CAT at all.? Following an outcry, YAESU decided to include two way frequency and mode only in the CAT.? This was provided as a free firmware update.? I think they could not go any further with a firmware only change.? You also still have to choose between CAT and the ATAS antenna, cannot run both together.? Pity really because the radio is a great radio? otherwise. ? I have the original manual if you are interested. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? Thanks Ruben for the info....
If you see on the list, it is not possible to set the channel number and save or download the data contained in the radio.So at least it seems from the commands available and declared in the manual that they are not there.
The problem is that you cannot set the number of memories, through the normal CAT only set the frequencies.
The CAT of the FT847 is really very limited and also very poorly explained on the manual.
Since I would like to manage everything through external memory banks with CAT software,
self-built as I already do for other things between transceiver and shack management like my FT3000d BARalso to have the 7 smeter bar simultaneously visible and easily adjust the CONT and NOTCH options "difficult, complicated and not very usable" otherwise through the menu.),
to better manage the limits of the FT847 SATELLITE 12 x memories and more such as the variation of the NR (which is not it is described as a CAT command, SAT TAG...), I think that the only possibility is to use the cmd and the dial of the CLONE emulated system:
Which in the manual does not report absolutely anything as a definition if not a setting in the menu which, however, does not describes the Up/Dw protocol.
It would seem that through software therefore another FT847 must be simulated and dialogue via the CLONE RADIO options (PAG 92>)
I tried to ask YAESU if there is better documentation. Unfortunately I have not found anything else.
73's
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Nils Ostman
Bill
Icomratt
