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Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

The Yaesu service manual leaves lot to be desired. I can't get I to the service menu with my mic. The fast button is not working.
Re: Schematics?

 

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That’s probably the radio off! 5ppm x 145 on 2m or 725hz and 5ppm x 433mhz for 70cm is 2.165khz.

? I would say your radio is in spec in FM.

De Spence M0STO?

Sent while portable! please excuse typos.

On 17 Jul 2022, at 19:40, Max Donoghue <ve3tmt@...> wrote:

Hi Andy,

also notice when listening to the local repeaters, the discriminator reading on the meter is off to the left. I actually have to tune about 1.5 KHz above the repeater output if I wanted to center it. Not sure if something is out there either.

Re: Schematics?

 

Hi this is all covered in the service manual and service menu? in the 847, before this address the ref Crystal's oscillators will need tweaking? first there are a number of tweaks that will affect the final frequency?

BR

Andrew

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Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Hi Andy,

also notice when listening to the local repeaters, the discriminator reading on the meter is off to the left. I actually have to tune about 1.5 KHz above the repeater output if I wanted to center it. Not sure if something is out there either.
Re: Schematics?

 

Depends on the input, ie might be zero

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Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

...and if I measure at the output of Q4001 I get nothing.

I think Q4001 is toast.
Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Hi Andy

If I measure at J3006 on the RF board, I'm only getting 60mV

This output runs to the input of Q4001

If I reseat the cable and measure at pin 1 of Q4001 I only get 12.5mV? ??


Max


On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:57 AM Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote:

OK on your detector probe:

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50mW should give 1.6V input

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Pin4 Q4001 up to 10 Watts so 22V

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RF output 50 Watts 50V

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73

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Andrew

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 14 July 2022 15:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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I'll have the parts here tomorrow to build the probe. Won't have a chance to look at it until next week, it's my wife's 60th birthday this weekend!

Happy wife....

Re: Schematics?

 

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OK on your detector probe:

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50mW should give 1.6V input

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Pin4 Q4001 up to 10 Watts so 22V

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RF output 50 Watts 50V

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73

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Andrew

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 14 July 2022 15:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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I'll have the parts here tomorrow to build the probe. Won't have a chance to look at it until next week, it's my wife's 60th birthday this weekend!

Happy wife....

Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

I'll have the parts here tomorrow to build the probe. Won't have a chance to look at it until next week, it's my wife's 60th birthday this weekend!

Happy wife....
Re: Schematics?

 

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True I know it is tricky, anyhow there is some measuring to do first

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 14 July 2022 13:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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I saw that module. Wondering how legit is is? Could be a counterfeit.

Re: Schematics?

 

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Off to lunch back in 90 mins

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 14 July 2022 12:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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Hi Andy


3.66V


I'll build an RF probe.

Can't find a 1N34A. Any good subs?
Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

I saw that module. Wondering how legit is is? Could be a counterfeit.
Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

If you are referring to the 3.66V, that was on pin 2 of Q4001. I get 13.7V on pin 3. I'll need the probe to measure pin 1 input and pin 4 output.
Re: Schematics?

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Lenton
Sent: 14 July 2022 13:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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Any germanium or Shockey diode will do just add .6 off a volt

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OK 3.66V at 50 OHM + 3.8mW to 4mW

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Where are you measuring?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 14 July 2022 12:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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Hi Andy


3.66V


I'll build an RF probe.

Can't find a 1N34A. Any good subs?

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Re: Schematics?

 

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Any germanium or Shockey diode will do just add .6 off a volt

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OK 3.66V at 50 OHM + 3.8mW to 4mW

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Where are you measuring?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 14 July 2022 12:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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Hi Andy


3.66V


I'll build an RF probe.

Can't find a 1N34A. Any good subs?
Re: Schematics?

 

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Replacement 4001!

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 13 July 2022 19:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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The voltages at Q4001 look good, as do the measurements at Q4006.

Does the 285mA reading seem reasonable considering Q4006 is not putting any power out?

I think Q4001 is good based on the signal strength into the handheld.? Possibly a break in the RF path between Q4001 and Q4006? I read where solder joints have been known to crack.

Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Hi Andy

3.66V

I'll build an RF probe.

Can't find a 1N34A. Any good subs?
Re: Schematics?

 

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Hi max,

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Check the voltage on Pin 2 of Q4001, this is the power control!

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73

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Andrew

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Lenton
Sent: 14 July 2022 11:55
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 13 July 2022 19:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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The voltages at Q4001 look good, as do the measurements at Q4006.

Does the 285mA reading seem reasonable considering Q4006 is not putting any power out? Yes Bias current for linear operation, it could go to 300mA for perfection!

I think Q4001 is good based on the signal strength into the handheld.? Possibly a break in the RF path between Q4001 and Q4006? I read where solder joints have been known to crack. There is not much than can go wrong between Q 4001 and Q4006, cracked cap maybe, you really need to signal trace, i.e is the signal far larger than, 50mW in 3 watts out is a power gain of? 18dB Q4001 provide many Watts into the final device, check solder around Q4001.

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BR Andrew

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Re: Schematics?

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 13 July 2022 19:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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The voltages at Q4001 look good, as do the measurements at Q4006.

Does the 285mA reading seem reasonable considering Q4006 is not putting any power out? Yes Bias current for linear operation, it could go to 300mA for perfection!

I think Q4001 is good based on the signal strength into the handheld.? Possibly a break in the RF path between Q4001 and Q4006? I read where solder joints have been known to crack. There is not much than can go wrong between Q 4001 and Q4006, cracked cap maybe, you really need to signal trace, i.e is the signal far larger than, 50mW in 3 watts out is a power gain of? 18dB Q4001 provide many Watts into the final device, check solder around Q4001.

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BR Andrew

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Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

The voltages at Q4001 look good, as do the measurements at Q4006.

Does the 285mA reading seem reasonable considering Q4006 is not putting any power out?

I think Q4001 is good based on the signal strength into the handheld.? Possibly a break in the RF path between Q4001 and Q4006? I read where solder joints have been known to crack.
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