Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
I bought two Yaesu trays and enough Enloop AA batteries to fill them. They appear to hold their charge very well in storage; however, I can't get the clip to close. It appears the Enloops are slightly bigger in diameter. Just enough so the latch won't
clip.?
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I think a good solution is to purchase one or two of the AA-cell battery trays for the radio (I just have one tray, but have been thinking of getting one more), each of which holds six batteries. Then get enough Eneloop batteries to fill the
trays you have plus one more set of six so you can have one full tray in the radio, one full tray as a spare with you, and be charging a third set of batteries.
I have found Costco has Eneloops at very affordable prices: They come in "oddball" sets, with a number of AA cells, some AAA's, and some sets include others (C and/or D) that you can use for other purposes (such as flashlights). Each set I
have seen includes a four-battery charger, so you need two sets to get chargers to charge an entire FT-60 load of six all at one time. They claim to have a shelf life of?five years without significant loss of charge (hold "up to 70%"), come charged and ready
to use, and can be recharged 2100 times!
I have three of the Costco sets, though with just one FT-60 tray, so I have enough AA cells for two loads in the radio plus two loads of four?in my camera flash! (They are a huge improvement in the flash compared to alkaline cells.) The three
sets also give me two chargers for the cells used in the radio plus a charger to go in my camera bag.
JERRY, N3AA
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
I think a good solution is to purchase one or two of the AA-cell battery trays for the radio (I just have one tray, but have been thinking of getting one more), each of which holds six batteries. Then get enough Eneloop batteries to fill the trays you have plus one more set of six so you can have one full tray in the radio, one full tray as a spare with you, and be charging a third set of batteries.
I have found Costco has Eneloops at very affordable prices: They come in "oddball" sets, with a number of AA cells, some AAA's, and some sets include others (C and/or D) that you can use for other purposes (such as flashlights). Each set I have seen includes a four-battery charger, so you need two sets to get chargers to charge an entire FT-60 load of six all at one time. They claim to have a shelf life of?five years without significant loss of charge (hold "up to 70%"), come charged and ready to use, and can be recharged 2100 times!
I have three of the Costco sets, though with just one FT-60 tray, so I have enough AA cells for two loads in the radio plus two loads of four?in my camera flash! (They are a huge improvement in the flash compared to alkaline cells.) The three sets also give me two chargers for the cells used in the radio plus a charger to go in my camera bag.
JERRY, N3AA
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
? Got mine from Amazon $13.59 with free shipping. ?
? ? Since this is a new purchase I have no info on how this battery pack will perform. ? Hank? KB1JLA ? ? ? ?
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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 1:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [FT-60] FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?? ? Where did you purchase the battery and how much please. I need to get a few also. mine been doing same tyhing for a long time. got a ft1dr so not using the ft-60 as much.???
I have seen cheap batteries but do they really last long enough for the price. I prefer to buy good battery at fair price and last 2x longer.
Any suggestions on a best mah for the ft-60 also.
OH dont throw away the old battery, interstate battery is supposed to have cells you can rebuild them yourself. for me it is easier to buy new and be safe.
Also keep older batteries for recv only while other battery charging. at least you can listen in case of emergency times. Just not xmit thats all. I have a original ft-60 battery that is gone basically but for recv it lasts 3 days straight. so dont throw away use them this way iof nothing else. save our landfills somehow !!
Thanks in advanced.
fred rugar
ke5htb
n 7/16/2016 7:47 AM, 'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60] wrote: ? Installing a new FNB-83 battery has solved the problem. Transmitting is working fine now. Appreciate all the suggestions. Hank? KB1JLA ? ? ? Hello All
"We are assuming that you are loading a freq within the ham bands, right?"
But even if the frequency is out of band, or the capabilities of the radio,the normal behavior is 1) not to allow you to store the out of band values and 2) The radio will not allow you to transmit by beeping and reverting back to a legitimate frequency.
It will not shut down and reboot simply because you are out of band?!
Or am I missing something.
The fact that the radio has been dormant suggest a depleted battery or some bizzar thing happened to it while in storage.
If you program anything else, in any other memory will this behavior occur?
73
Wassim
WN6WJN
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Hey Fred and All,
As you said "OH dont throw away the old battery" when you have the time, you can disassemble them, and make an AA battery tray out of them.
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Where did you purchase the battery and
how much please. I need to get a few also. mine been doing same
tyhing for a long time. got a ft1dr so not using the ft-60 as
much.???
I have seen cheap batteries but do they really last long enough
for the price. I prefer to buy good battery at fair price and last
2x longer.
Any suggestions on a best mah for the ft-60 also.
OH dont throw away the old battery, interstate battery is supposed
to have cells you can rebuild them yourself. for me it is easier
to buy new and be safe.
Also keep older batteries for recv only while other battery
charging. at least you can listen in case of emergency times. Just
not xmit thats all. I have a original ft-60 battery that is gone
basically but for recv it lasts 3 days straight. so dont throw
away use them this way iof nothing else. save our landfills
somehow !!
Thanks in advanced.
fred rugar
ke5htb
n 7/16/2016 7:47 AM, 'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60] wrote:
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Installing
a new FNB-83 battery has solved the problem.
Transmitting is working fine now. Appreciate all the
suggestions.
Hank?
KB1JLA
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Hello All
"We are assuming that you are loading a freq
within the ham bands, right?"
But even if the frequency is out of band, or the
capabilities of the radio,the normal behavior is
1) not to allow you to store the out of band
values and 2) The radio will not allow you to
transmit by beeping and reverting back to a
legitimate frequency.
It will not shut down and reboot simply because
you are out of band?!
Or am I missing something.
The fact that the radio has been dormant suggest a
depleted battery or some bizzar thing happened to
it while in storage.
If you program anything else, in any other memory
will this behavior occur?
73
Wassim
WN6WJN
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Installing a new FNB-83 battery has solved the problem. Transmitting is working fine now. Appreciate all the suggestions. Hank? KB1JLA ?
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:28 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?? ? Hello All
"We are assuming that you are loading a freq within the ham bands, right?"
But even if the frequency is out of band, or the capabilities of the radio,the normal behavior is 1) not to allow you to store the out of band values and 2) The radio will not allow you to transmit by beeping and reverting back to a legitimate frequency.
It will not shut down and reboot simply because you are out of band?!
Or am I missing something.
The fact that the radio has been dormant suggest a depleted battery or some bizzar thing happened to it while in storage.
If you program anything else, in any other memory will this behavior occur?
73
Wassim
WN6WJN
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Hello All
"We are assuming that you are loading a freq within the ham bands, right?"
But even if the frequency is out of band, or the capabilities of the radio,the normal behavior is 1) not to allow you to store the out of band values and 2) The radio will not allow you to transmit by beeping and reverting back to a legitimate frequency.
It will not shut down and reboot simply because you are out of band?!
Or am I missing something.
The fact that the radio has been dormant suggest a depleted battery or some bizzar thing happened to it while in storage.
If you program anything else, in any other memory will this behavior occur?
73
Wassim
WN6WJN
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Re: ADMS-1J has been SOLD
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On Jul 13, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Jim K5JG k5jg@... [FT-60] < FT-60@...> wrote:
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The ADMS-1J programming kit has been sold.
73, Jim K5JG
On 7/12/2016 9:22 PM, Jim K5JG wrote:
> I have the following FT-60R accessories for sale:
>
> 1 - RT Systems ADMS-1J Programming Software (with installation key) &
> USB Cable all in the original box.
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
It works fine on the car cig lighter plug, so pretty much confirms bad battery. Have a new one on order. Appreciate the feed back. Hank? KB1JLA ? I did check the offsets, etc. and those were ok. Standard ?-600? for 146 repeater. ?
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:41 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?? ? ?If you are trying to transmit outside the ham bands, the radio will beep and show 'error'. Turning off and on is a bad battery, even if voltage shows high enough on power on. If it works when on a cigarette lighter plug, that confirms it.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Sent from the Death Star for Darth Vader's eyes only. Any other reception will be severely punished. ? ? Hank,
You might also check the offset.? I did this, and the offset frequency was OUTSIDE the hamabands, even though the recieve frequency was inside the hambands.? I checked the offset and it appears the ARS had somehow gotten turned off, and the the transmit freq was about 2.?? Mhz above the recieve freq.? This was problematic as I was trying to program in a 147.xxx repeater.? Of course I also checked the battery voltage and antenna connector, went thru everything that I thought was pertinent.? Of course, this was the last thing that I checked HIHI.
John, KC0JPO
On 7/12/2016 4:39 PM, 'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60] wrote: ? Encountering a problem in programming my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency (frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen. ? I have tried a complete reset (F4 ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via software. ? All receive functions are fine. I can receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc. Battery functions are fine. ? This FT-60 has worked fine in the past, but has been out of service for a couple of years and simply stored carefully. ? Any suggestions as to the problem transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks. ? Hank? KB1JLA
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
?If you are trying to transmit outside the ham bands, the radio will beep and show 'error'. Turning off and on is a bad battery, even if voltage shows high enough on power on. If it works when on a cigarette lighter plug, that confirms it.? Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Sent from the Death Star for Darth Vader's eyes only. Any other reception will be severely punished. ?
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On Jul 13, 2016, at 13:46, John Murphy jmurphy7411@... [FT-60] < FT-60@...> wrote:
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Hank,
You might also check the offset.? I did this, and the offset
frequency was OUTSIDE the hamabands, even though the recieve
frequency was inside the hambands.? I checked the offset and it
appears the ARS had somehow gotten turned off, and the the
transmit freq was about 2.?? Mhz above the recieve freq.? This was
problematic as I was trying to program in a 147.xxx repeater.? Of
course I also checked the battery voltage and antenna connector,
went thru everything that I thought was pertinent.? Of course,
this was the last thing that I checked HIHI.
John, KC0JPO
On 7/12/2016 4:39 PM, 'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60] wrote:
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Encountering a problem in programming
my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency
(frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory
channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that
channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank
screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible
beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then
contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen.
?
I have tried a complete reset (F4
ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via
software.
?
All receive functions are fine. I can
receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc.
Battery functions are fine.
?
This FT-60 has worked fine in the
past, but has been out of service for a couple of years
and simply stored carefully.
?
Any suggestions as to the problem
transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks.
?
Hank? KB1JLA
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Hank,
You might also check the offset.? I did this, and the offset
frequency was OUTSIDE the hamabands, even though the recieve
frequency was inside the hambands.? I checked the offset and it
appears the ARS had somehow gotten turned off, and the the
transmit freq was about 2.?? Mhz above the recieve freq.? This was
problematic as I was trying to program in a 147.xxx repeater.? Of
course I also checked the battery voltage and antenna connector,
went thru everything that I thought was pertinent.? Of course,
this was the last thing that I checked HIHI.
John, KC0JPO
On 7/12/2016 4:39 PM, 'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60] wrote:
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Encountering a problem in programming
my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency
(frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory
channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that
channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank
screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible
beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then
contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen.
?
I have tried a complete reset (F4
ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via
software.
?
All receive functions are fine. I can
receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc.
Battery functions are fine.
?
This FT-60 has worked fine in the
past, but has been out of service for a couple of years
and simply stored carefully.
?
Any suggestions as to the problem
transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks.
?
Hank? KB1JLA
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
It sounds like the battery voltage is pk under the light load condition of receiving. Batteries often start to fail by not being able to supply high current.. On July 13, 2016 7:21:29 AM PDT, "'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60]" wrote:
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Yes! Thank you. ? The FT-60 transmits fine on the stock? E-DC-5B car cig lighter charger cord. Voltage reads 12.4 volts on the FT-60. ? I have two stock FNB-83 battery packs that are fully charged neither of which seem to work for transmitting as described and both of which measure 8.4 volts in the FT-60. So I guess the
assumption is these batteries are somehow non-functional even though the battery voltage/indicator appears ok. ? The other issue is the problem might be with my CD-29 Drop-in Charger although I don't know how since the charging cycle appears normal with red LED changing to green after cycle ends. ? ? I guess the plan would be to obtain a new FNB-83 battery pack and try that for transmitting. ? Thanks for the assistance. Hank? KB1JLA ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 10:07 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] FT-60 Possible
Problem- suggestions? ? ? Sounds like a bad battery or you are trying to transmit while charging. Plugged into a cigarette lighter plug will work, the wall wart won't.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Sent from the Death Star for Darth Vader's eyes only. Any other reception will be severely punished. ? ? Encountering a problem in programming my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency (frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen. ? I have tried a complete reset (F4 ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via software. ? All receive functions are fine. I can receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc. Battery functions are fine. ? This FT-60 has worked fine in the past, but has been out of service for a couple of years and simply stored
carefully. ? Any suggestions as to the problem transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks. ? Hank? KB1JLA
Andy
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Re: ADMS-1J has been SOLD
The ADMS-1J programming kit has been sold.
73, Jim K5JG
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On 7/12/2016 9:22 PM, Jim K5JG wrote: I have the following FT-60R accessories for sale:
1 - RT Systems ADMS-1J Programming Software (with installation key) &
USB Cable all in the original box.
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Yes! Thank you. ? The FT-60 transmits fine on the stock? E-DC-5B car cig lighter charger cord. Voltage reads 12.4 volts on the FT-60. ? I have two stock FNB-83 battery packs that are fully charged neither of which seem to work for transmitting as described and both of which measure 8.4 volts in the FT-60. So I guess the assumption is these batteries are somehow non-functional even though the battery voltage/indicator appears ok. ? The other issue is the problem might be with my CD-29 Drop-in Charger although I don't know how since the charging cycle appears normal with red LED changing to green after cycle ends. ? ? I guess the plan would be to obtain a new FNB-83 battery pack and try that for transmitting. ? Thanks for the assistance. Hank? KB1JLA ?
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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 10:07 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?? ? Sounds like a bad battery or you are trying to transmit while charging. Plugged into a cigarette lighter plug will work, the wall wart won't.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Sent from the Death Star for Darth Vader's eyes only. Any other reception will be severely punished. ? ? Encountering a problem in programming my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency (frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen. ? I have tried a complete reset (F4 ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via software. ? All receive functions are fine. I can receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc. Battery functions are fine. ? This FT-60 has worked fine in the past, but has been out of service for a couple of years and simply stored carefully. ? Any suggestions as to the problem transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks. ? Hank? KB1JLA
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Correct. Programing local ham repeaters. ?
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Subject: RE: [FT-60] FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?? ? We are assuming that you are loading a freq within the ham bands, right?
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From: "'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...>
Date: 12/07/2016 16:39 (GMT-07:00)
To: FT-60@...
Subject: [FT-60] FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
? Encountering a problem in programming my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency (frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen. ? I have tried a complete reset (F4 ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via software. ? All receive functions are fine. I can receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc. Battery functions are fine. ? This FT-60 has worked fine in the past, but has been out of service for a couple of years and simply stored carefully. ? Any suggestions as to the problem transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks. ? Hank? KB1JLA
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
We are assuming that you are loading a freq within the ham bands, right?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> Date: 12/07/2016 16:39 (GMT-07:00) To: FT-60@... Subject: [FT-60] FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
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Encountering a problem in programming my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency (frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen. ? I have tried a complete reset (F4 ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via software. ? All receive functions are fine. I can receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc. Battery functions are fine. ? This FT-60 has worked fine in the past, but has been out of service for a couple of years and simply stored carefully. ? Any suggestions as to the problem transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks. ? Hank? KB1JLA
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Programming Kit & Charger FS
I have the following FT-60R accessories for sale:
1 - RT Systems ADMS-1J Programming Software (with installation key) &
USB Cable all in the original box.
1 - VAC-370B Drop-in Rapid Charger & wall wart in original box. Charges
the FNB-83 in approximately 1.5 hours.
Please contact me off list at k5jg at verizon dot net if interested.
Thanks.
73, Jim K5JG
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Re: FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Sounds like a bad battery or you are trying to transmit while charging. Plugged into a cigarette lighter plug will work, the wall wart won't.? Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Sent from the Death Star for Darth Vader's eyes only. Any other reception will be severely punished. ?
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On Jul 12, 2016, at 15:39, 'hank' hanklane@... [FT-60] < FT-60@...> wrote:
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Encountering a problem in programming my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency (frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen. ? I have tried a complete reset (F4 ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via software. ? All receive functions are fine. I can receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc. Battery functions are fine. ? This FT-60 has worked fine in the past, but has been out of service for a couple of years and simply stored carefully. ? Any suggestions as to the problem transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks. ? Hank? KB1JLA
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FT-60 Possible Problem- suggestions?
Encountering a problem in programming my FT-60. ?After entering a frequency (frequency+tone+tone freq.) ?and storing it in memory channel #2 (for example) any attempt to transmit on that channel results in FT-60 shutdown (power off to blank screen), and reboot to startup screen with audible beeps, 'MEMORY', ?battery voltage value and then contents of memory channel 2 showing on screen. ? I have tried a complete reset (F4 ALLRST). I have tried programming manually and via software. ? All receive functions are fine. I can receive ham bands, public safety, weather channels, etc. Battery functions are fine. ? This FT-60 has worked fine in the past, but has been out of service for a couple of years and simply stored carefully. ? Any suggestions as to the problem transmitting would be appreciated. Thanks. ? Hank? KB1JLA
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Re: Programming from FT-7800 to FT-60
Thanks for the replies and suggestions. I guess I'll have to go thru and try it again until it works. I thought I was but maybe I'm missing something.
Thanks again
Hoyt
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Hank-
Dave Jeffries AF0DJ