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Re: Lithium DIY Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] FT-60R replacement battery

 

My radio battery is "nickel hydride"??


On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 10:05 AM, HF via groups.io
<incorridge@...> wrote:
HI Marty,
Thanks for posting about this!? I used the original case and flat Li-Po cells and enjoy longer battery life and less mass.? See post "HB battery pack using Li-po cells".? Your solution using removable cells has a big advantage because you don't need to modify the battery's charger or make another one.? Just take the cells out, put them in the charger, and put charged ones in.? If you're on a long outing, you just bring along a couple extra freshly-charged cells.
Cheers,
Halden VE7UTS

Re: Lithium DIY Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] FT-60R replacement battery

 

HI Marty,
Thanks for posting about this!? I used the original case and flat Li-Po cells and enjoy longer battery life and less mass.? See post "HB battery pack using Li-po cells".? Your solution using removable cells has a big advantage because you don't need to modify the battery's charger or make another one.? Just take the cells out, put them in the charger, and put charged ones in.? If you're on a long outing, you just bring along a couple extra freshly-charged cells.
Cheers,
Halden VE7UTS
Re: Lithium DIY Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] FT-60R replacement battery

 

Good point. There is a problem in that many of us, my self included, associate "LiOn" with LiFePO4, with its 2,000 plus cycle capacity. Not the case with what is used in HT batteries.

Christian
KD2LIN

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From: Clint Bradford via groups.io <clintbradford@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 02:03:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Lithium DIY Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] FT-60R replacement battery

<html><head></head><body dir="auto">But ya know what? I will take my NiMH cells at 2700mAH for about 1,000 charge-discharge cycles, versus Li-Ion and their 300-500 charges.<div><br /></div><div>Yes, Li-Ion holds its full charge longer than NiMH ... but I don&#39;t charge my primary HTs up and then not use them for months.</div><div><br /></div><div>And Li-Ion performs better in frigid weather ... but I am not trekking to Antarctica this year.</div><div><br /></div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature" /><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><br /><blockquote>On Apr 15, 2024, at 21:47, Marty Maeding via groups.io &lt;mmaeding&#61;yahoo.com&#64;groups.io&gt; wrote:<br /><br /></blockquote></div><blockquote><div dir="ltr">&#xfeff;<div class="ydp70f04120yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:&#39;helvetica neue&#39; , &#39;helvetica&#39; , &#39;arial&#39; , sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div style="font-size:13px"></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font size="5">OK, Try this link:? Let me know if it doesn&#39;t work.??</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="5"><a href=" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yaesu Battery Pack FT60R by martym49 - Thingiverse</a><div><br /></div><div id="ydp44d47db9enhancr_card_3725911690" class="ydp44d47db9yahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp44d47db9ymail-preserve-class ydp44d47db9ymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:&#39;yahoosans vf&#39; , &#39;yahoosans&#39; , &#39;opensans vf&#39; , &#39;helvetica neue&#39; , &#39;segoe ui&#39; , &#39;helvetica&#39; , &#39;arial&#39; , sans-serif"><a href=" style="text-decoration:none !important;color:#000 !important" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><table border="0" class="ydp44d47db9card-wrapper ydp44d47db9yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" class="ydp44d47db9card ydp44d47db9yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb( 224 , 228 , 233 );border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td class="ydp44d47db9card-primary-image-cell" background=" bgcolor="#000000" valign="top" height="175" style="background-color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );background-repeat:no-repeat;border-radius:2px 2px 0px 0px;min-height:175px"><table border="0" class="ydp44d47db9card-overlay-container-table ydp44d47db9yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%"><tbody><tr><td class="ydp44d47db9card-overlay-cell" background=" bgcolor="transparent" valign="top" style="background-color:transparent;border-radius:2px 2px 0px 0px;min-height:175px"><table border="0" class="ydp44d47db9yahoo-ignore-table" style="width:100%;min-height:175px"><tbody><tr><td class="ydp44d47db9card-richInfo2" style="text-align:left;padding:15px 0 0 15px;vertical-align:top"></td><td class="ydp44d47db9card-actions" style="text-align:right;padding:15px 15px 0 0;vertical-align:top"><div class="ydp44d47db9card-share-container"></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" align="center" class="ydp44d47db9card-info ydp44d47db9yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:#fff;width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0 0 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb( 224 , 228 , 233 )"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:#ffffff;padding:16px 0 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0 0 0 2px"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:&#39;yahoosans vf&#39; , &#39;yahoosans&#39; , &#39;opensans vf&#39; , &#39;helvetica neue&#39; , &#39;segoe ui&#39; , &#39;helvetica&#39; , &#39;arial&#39; , sans-serif;border-radius:0 0 2px 0"><h2 class="ydp44d47db9card-title" style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:&#39;yahoosans vf&#39; , &#39;yahoosans&#39; , &#39;opensans vf&#39; , &#39;helvetica neue&#39; , &#39;segoe ui&#39; , &#39;helvetica&#39; , &#39;arial&#39; , sans-serif;color:rgb( 29 , 34 , 40 );max-width:314px">Yaesu Battery Pack FT60R by martym49</h2><p class="ydp44d47db9card-description" style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb( 151 , 158 , 168 )">This is a replacement battery pack for Yaesu Hand held Ham Radio. Nickel battery pack is replaced with Lithium b...</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><br /></font></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:13px"><br /></div><div style="font-size:13px"><br /></div>

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batteries before recharging is needed. You can recharge with
an inexpensive Lithium USB charger that works for a bunch of
other types of batteries also.? The batteries are larger but
MUCH lighter. The BIGGEST advantage was that I got to have a
fun project. If you are interested, I have posted my work on
Thingiverse.? If you have access to a 3D printer and a
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Re: Lithium DIY Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] FT-60R replacement battery

 

OK, Try this link:? Let me know if it doesn't work.??







On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 03:04:44 PM PDT, Ray, W4BYG <w4byg@...> wrote:


Marty,
Thank you for your interesting note. A quick scan of
Thingiverse" reveals a lot of various 18650 entries. Can you give us a clue how to find yours?
Ray, W4BYG
On 4/15/2024 14:58, Marty Maeding via groups.io wrote:
I have switched to my own 3D Printed case with 2 removable 18650 Lithium batteries and discharge protection. The disadvantage, the case is about 1/4" fatter. The advantages are that I can have charged batteries in place in seconds. This set up last a LOOONG time compared to the nickel batteries before recharging is needed. You can recharge with an inexpensive Lithium USB charger that works for a bunch of other types of batteries also.? The batteries are larger but MUCH lighter. The BIGGEST advantage was that I got to have a fun project. If you are interested, I have posted my work on Thingiverse.? If you have access to a 3D printer and a soldering gun, you can make this.?


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Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

Thank you Clint!
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Gary
KY8M
Macomb, MI.
Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

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Here’s a good NiMH pack for you …





On Apr 15, 2024, at 3:39?PM, dcx3420 via groups.io <dcx3420@...> wrote:

While mentioning batteries for FT-60. I need a new one, my charger is the one that came with the radio SBH-13 What replacement battery can I use with this charger.

Thank You Guys.
--
Gary
KY8M
Macomb, MI.


--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com

Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

I got the tray that fits the radio and loaded it with rechargeable AA batteries. Makes life a lot easier.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 6:39 PM, dcx3420 via groups.io
<dcx3420@...> wrote:
While mentioning batteries for FT-60. I need a new one, my charger is the one that came with the radio SBH-13 What replacement battery can I use with this charger.

Thank You Guys.
--
Gary
KY8M
Macomb, MI.

Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

While mentioning batteries for FT-60. I need a new one, my charger is the one that came with the radio SBH-13 What replacement battery can I use with this charger.

Thank You Guys.
--
Gary
KY8M
Macomb, MI.

Re: Lithium DIY Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] FT-60R replacement battery

 

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Marty,
Thank you for your interesting note. A quick scan of
Thingiverse" reveals a lot of various 18650 entries. Can you give us a clue how to find yours?
Ray, W4BYG
On 4/15/2024 14:58, Marty Maeding via groups.io wrote:
I have switched to my own 3D Printed case with 2 removable 18650 Lithium batteries and discharge protection. The disadvantage, the case is about 1/4" fatter. The advantages are that I can have charged batteries in place in seconds. This set up last a LOOONG time compared to the nickel batteries before recharging is needed. You can recharge with an inexpensive Lithium USB charger that works for a bunch of other types of batteries also.? The batteries are larger but MUCH lighter. The BIGGEST advantage was that I got to have a fun project. If you are interested, I have posted my work on Thingiverse.? If you have access to a 3D printer and a soldering gun, you can make this.?





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 If you want to build a strong life, I'll introduce you to my carpenter."
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Lithium DIY Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] FT-60R replacement battery

 

I have switched to my own 3D Printed case with 2 removable 18650 Lithium batteries and discharge protection. The disadvantage, the case is about 1/4" fatter. The advantages are that I can have charged batteries in place in seconds. This set up last a LOOONG time compared to the nickel batteries before recharging is needed. You can recharge with an inexpensive Lithium USB charger that works for a bunch of other types of batteries also.? The batteries are larger but MUCH lighter. The BIGGEST advantage was that I got to have a fun project. If you are interested, I have posted my work on Thingiverse.? If you have access to a 3D printer and a soldering gun, you can make this.?




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Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

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More info
Please dbl check the fitment

This charger is compatible with:
Yaesu/ Vertex/ Standard FT-60, VX110, VX120, VX130, VX150, VX160, VX170, VX180, VX200, VX210, VX230, VX231, VX234, VX240, HX270S, HX370S, HX500S, HX600S, PilotIII, Bearcom BC90, BC95


FNB-83x: 7.2 volt 2000mAh rechargeable long-life Ni-MH battery for Yaesu, Vertex, and Standard Horizon radios. Replaces FNB-83, FNB-V57, FNB-64, FNB-V94, etc. Fits radios such as FT-60R, FTA-230, FTA-310; VX-110, VX-120, VX-127, VX-130, VX-150, VX-160, VX-170, VX-177, VX-180, VX-210A, VX-250, VX-270, VX-277, VX-400, VX-410, VX-420, VX-800, VXA-150 Pro V, VXA-210, VXA-220 PRO VI, HX270s, HX370s, HX500s, HX600s etc.
Pricing is for 1 battery pack. Picture shows both sides of battery.
Re-charges with Wall Chargers (NC-72BA, PA-48B, NC-72B); DC vehicle chargers (E-DC-5BA, E-DC-5B, SDD-13); and desktop chargers (EMS-57-83).?

Compatible Radio models:
YAESU / Vertex Standard Portable Radios
VX-110, VX-120, VX-127, VX-150, VX-160, VX-170, VX-177, VX-180, VX-210, VX-210A, VX-400, VX-410, VX-414, VX-417, VX-420, VX-424, VX-427, VX-800, VX-800V, VX-800U, FT-60E, FT-60R, FT-250E, FT-250R, FT-270E, FT-270R, FT-277R

YAESU / Vertex Standard Aviation Radios
VXA-120 Pro II, VXA-150 Pro V, VXA-200 Aviator Pilot II, VXA-210 Aviator Pilot, VXA-210 Lite, VXA-220 Pro VI, VXA-300 Pilot III, VXA-300 Lite

STANDARD HORIZON Portable Radios
HX270S, HX370S, HX500S, HX600S



Ok

Back to work?

Del


On Apr 15, 2024, at 10:03, Del K7rlp <k7rlp@...> wrote:

?
I’m been using the Vx800 Li-ion
Batteries and VX-charger for years.

That style of battery is used on many Vertex professional radios for years.
The list is endless?
Just a sample……

FNB-V67LI Lithium Ion 2000 mAh battery

?works with the Vertex Standard?VX-130,?VX-160,?VX-180,?VX-410,?VX-420,?VX-414,?VX-417,?VX-424, and?VX-427?series two way radio.?

Del. K7rlp

On Apr 15, 2024, at 08:47, Clint Bradford via groups.io <clintbradford@...> wrote:

?If you get a quality li-ion pack from anyone, you will need a charger that properly charges it. Batteriesamerica.com has been great for me for about 20 years.
--
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http//www.work-sat.com

Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

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I’m been using the Vx800 Li-ion
Batteries and VX-charger for years.

That style of battery is used on many Vertex professional radios for years.
The list is endless?
Just a sample……

FNB-V67LI Lithium Ion 2000 mAh battery

?works with the Vertex Standard?VX-130,?VX-160,?VX-180,?VX-410,?VX-420,?VX-414,?VX-417,?VX-424, and?VX-427?series two way radio.?

Del. K7rlp

On Apr 15, 2024, at 08:47, Clint Bradford via groups.io <clintbradford@...> wrote:

?If you get a quality li-ion pack from anyone, you will need a charger that properly charges it. Batteriesamerica.com has been great for me for about 20 years.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com

Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

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Me, too. 2700mAH NiMH - that’s twice the capacity of stock NiMH pack. Then improved my antenna - that makes it about FOUR TIMES battery longevity.?

Oh, and when I use an earpiece … What is the first thing you’ll do with the VOLume control? You will turn it DOWN. And what eats up batteries? Keying the PTT to transmit, and loud audio.

BOTTOM LINE: My batteries last forever … (g)

Clint
work-sat.com?

PS Want to see a great example of line of sight? Go to …?? … 2W TX power, $15 antenna … speaking to an astronaut whop was aboard the ISS at the time, 450+ miles downrange …


On Apr 15, 2024, at 11:25?AM, Mark Wolff via groups.io <N4MEW.Mark@...> wrote:

I've made the switch to the battery tray and individually rechargeable NMh AA cells.

MW / N4MEW

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 11:24 Harris K9RJ via <vk6av=[email protected]> wrote:
Aside from what Yaesu offers, has anyone had success with larger capacity 3rd party supplied batteries? Recommendations? Thank you.
73, Harris? K9RJ






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Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com

Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

I've made the switch to the battery tray and individually rechargeable NMh AA cells.

MW / N4MEW


On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 11:24 Harris K9RJ via <vk6av=[email protected]> wrote:
Aside from what Yaesu offers, has anyone had success with larger capacity 3rd party supplied batteries? Recommendations? Thank you.
73, Harris? K9RJ




Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

If you get a quality li-ion pack from anyone, you will need a charger that properly charges it. Batteriesamerica.com has been great for me for about 20 years.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com

Re: FT-60R replacement battery

 

Want to double battery longevity? Turn tx power down to 2W, and use a Smiley 270 or Diamond SRH-320a antenna.

If you are not making it line-of-sight FM voice with 2W, odds are you won,t with 4-5W.

Want to increase battery life even MORE? Use an earpiece or mini-boom mic!
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com

FT-60R replacement battery

 

Aside from what Yaesu offers, has anyone had success with larger capacity 3rd party supplied batteries? Recommendations? Thank you.
73, Harris K9RJ

Re: What am I doing wrong

 

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Oh I’ve done that before. And, don’t ask how many times I’ve picked up and keyed the wrong mic. ?

Re: What am I doing wrong

 

Scott,
I had the same thing happen today.? Make sure the RT cable is in firm in the radio, wiggle it a bit too. Resend send to radio again,
It worked for me.
Ken

On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 3:50?PM Scott W Hanak <scott.hanak@...> wrote:
Hi all,

So I was trying update and make changes to my frequency list in RT systems and I'm getting the following error (does anyone have any ideas):
Communication error:? The information in the radio does not match that of the file.? Click OK for more information about this error.? (When I click OK nothing happens).? Click Cancel to cancel and try again.

Stupid question:? is there a way to just clear the radio and start over?

Thanks in advance,
Scott - KC3VUH

Re: What am I doing wrong

 

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Half-page "Quick Programming Guide" on the DOCS page for you at k6lcs.com ...

Clint K6LCS

On Apr 8, 2024, at 17:19, Scott W Hanak via groups.io <scott.hanak@...> wrote:

?No, I did the read, then I sent a separate file (had to add a site for a trip I'm going to OH), plus had to make some changes to a couple repeaters.

Scott - KC3VUH

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http//www.work-sat.com

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