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Re: FT-101E conversion to 6883B finals

 

Hi Ron,

I have the FT-101E that has been in its original box throughout the years since high school.? It had the 6JS6C tubes replaced once.? Not sure how long tubes last sitting around.??Prices and brands vary widely.? I'm wondering about neutralizing if you can run into issues with different brands.?

Just curious, have you found a place to acquire these tubes at a reasonable price.??

Thanks
Dan


Re: Yaesu ft 101E no ALC indication on SSB

 

Hi Peter,

Okay, so no SSB out even though you have AM & Tune/CW. It still could be a fault with the ALC or dirty relay. You could certainly check the voltages around D2 in the ALC circuit. If C17 has gone leaky (a common fault) then there could be a large negative voltage on the ALC line to the processor board which would shut down the SSB output (ALC does not operate on CW,? AM or TUNE).
As for the relay, there is a small cross-head screw on the top of the relay's plastic cover that fixes the plastic case to the metal bracket that holds the relay coil. Remove that screw and it should then be possible to remove the relay's plastic cover.

Probably best to start with voltage checks on the processor board around Q6 and the ALC input pin.

One other thing you could try is to take/make a short jumper lead and temporarily connect the input to the output on the processor board and see if SSB on Tx works like that.

By all means you could email results as I don't often check this group.

73,
Peter
G4DJB


Re: Yaesu ft 101E no ALC indication on SSB

 

Hi Peter and many thanks for your comprehensive reply!

I will certainly try your suggestions for the metering fault. However I can get no power out at all using a dummy load (on a separate power/swr meter) with the mic gain turned up to max from zero and whistling into the mic. If it was just a metering problem could I expect to see power out on a separate meter? Maybe the metering is OK and faithfully reporting that there is no power out.? But I stilll don't get any meter movement from zero when switch to ALC. I'm confused!

I did think of that relay and removed it for cleaning but couldn't work out how to remove the plastic case! The meter switch works perfectly for the other positions so I'm assuming its OK for the ALC position - but maybe not!

I will certainly measure the voltages on Q6 as you suggest.

If you're willing will email the results for further comment?

Kind regards

Peter G0LQU

Peter Roberts G4DJB wrote:

Hi Peter,

The D2 referred to is the D2 in the ALC circuitry which is located on tag strips in the chassis just outside the PA/Driver compartment - I think this is what you referred to as the D2 in the grid circuitry of V2? However, I don't think that is your problem. The page you referred to in the service manual assumes (although it doesn't say so) that the meter is going full scale to start with and "no ALC indication" means that there is no deflection back from full scale.

So, your problem would seem to be with the metering circuit would be my guess. As a start, try cleaning the contacts on the PO/IC/ALC meter switch. The next thing to try would be clean the contacts on the main chassis mounted relay, RL1. The ALC meter signal passes through both of these and if the radio has been sat for a number of years then these contacts may need cleaning. Other things that might stop the meter from being able to be set to full scale on ALC would be a dead Q6 or open circuit/ dirty VR2 on the processor board. The schematic of the processor board later in the service manual shows what voltages you should be seeing on Q6. If you are seeing the correct voltages on Q6 then the only thing stopping the meter from going full scale is VR2 and the switch/relay contacts between the processor board and the meter.

You should still be able to check that you get SSB output by tuning the radio and set the mic gain to, say, 3, and then key the radio and check for speech peaks with the radio's meter set to Ic. You should also be able to see RF output on an external power meter. Hopefully you can get the ALC working at some point.

Good luck!

Peter
G4DJB


Re: Yaesu ft 101E no ALC indication on SSB

 

Hi Peter,

The D2 referred to is the D2 in the ALC circuitry which is located on tag strips in the chassis just outside the PA/Driver compartment - I think this is what you referred to as the D2 in the grid circuitry of V2? However, I don't think that is your problem. The page you referred to in the service manual assumes (although it doesn't say so) that the meter is going full scale to start with and "no ALC indication" means that there is no deflection back from full scale.

So, your problem would seem to be with the metering circuit would be my guess. As a start, try cleaning the contacts on the PO/IC/ALC meter switch. The next thing to try would be clean the contacts on the main chassis mounted relay, RL1. The ALC meter signal passes through both of these and if the radio has been sat for a number of years then these contacts may need cleaning. Other things that might stop the meter from being able to be set to full scale on ALC would be a dead Q6 or open circuit/ dirty VR2 on the processor board. The schematic of the processor board later in the service manual shows what voltages you should be seeing on Q6. If you are seeing the correct voltages on Q6 then the only thing stopping the meter from going full scale is VR2 and the switch/relay contacts between the processor board and the meter.

You should still be able to check that you get SSB output by tuning the radio and set the mic gain to, say, 3, and then key the radio and check for speech peaks with the radio's meter set to Ic. You should also be able to see RF output on an external power meter. Hopefully you can get the ALC working at some point.

Good luck!

Peter
G4DJB


Yaesu ft 101E no ALC indication on SSB

 

Hello. my first post for a long while so hoping somerone can help me.
I have powered up this rig after many years in (dry!) storage.

I was vey encouraged when in the "Tune" mode I obtained 120W out into a dummy load.

Obtained 120W out on CW and about 50W am - all to specification.

Then I tried SSB (LSB on 40 meters). In order to set up the correct microphone gain I have to switch to LSB mode with the meter set to ALC. On key up the meter should read about full scale - but it doesn't move off zero! So I can't get to the stasge of adjusting the mic. gain to get correct level of modulation.

I have copies the user manual and the service manual.

This exact fault is actually described in the service manual (page 4-8) with relevant circuits (pages 4-9 and 4-10).

However I have found that these circuit diagrams are ambiguous and in one case completely incorrect.

One solution suggests "grounding the anode of D2 which can restore SSB". Fine - but which D2? The "D2" shown for the "RF speech processor" (Board PB 1534) is clearly nothing to do with the SSB circuit although D3 on that board is connected to the ALC line.

I wondered if the "D2" mentioned for shorting anode to ground is the D2 in the grid circuitry of V2?

I didn't want to short this to ground without some advice! so That is my query!

Many thanks for any thoughts/suggestions.

Peter G0LQU


Re: FT101ZD Dial and Digital Counter Misaligned

 

Hey that worked perfect! Thanks for the tip! I figured there had to be a simple solution out there but couldn't find anything in the manual or online! Guess it was so simple that I should have just been able to figure it out hihi


Re: FT101ZD Dial and Digital Counter Misaligned

 

Hi Michael,

Not to worry, the metal ring on the vfo knob behind the plastic portion rotates with the analog dial. Hold the metal ring firmly and turn the plastic knob so the analog is correct. It will likely need netting in with each mode change. Most just use the digital display. It looks like you have a MKlll version, congrats! That is a nice rig, I have one here.?

73 Don ve3ids?


On Thu., Oct. 5, 2023, 2:53 p.m. Michael Forsman (KE?TCF), <om@...> wrote:
Hello all. I am BRAND new to the FT101 so be patient with me. I'm new to radios of this vintage in general and just got this radio yesterday and haven't had time to play much with it but I'm pretty sure something is wrong here.?

See picture. The sub-dial does not show the correct number as what is indicated on the digital counter. Does something need aligned here? Is this easily fixable by someone like me or does it have to go to a shop? Or does it even really matter? The digital counter appears to be accurate. I find signals where I expect them to be on the digital counter.?

Any help is appreciated! Thanks!


FT101ZD Dial and Digital Counter Misaligned

 

Hello all. I am BRAND new to the FT101 so be patient with me. I'm new to radios of this vintage in general and just got this radio yesterday and haven't had time to play much with it but I'm pretty sure something is wrong here.?

See picture. The sub-dial does not show the correct number as what is indicated on the digital counter. Does something need aligned here? Is this easily fixable by someone like me or does it have to go to a shop? Or does it even really matter? The digital counter appears to be accurate. I find signals where I expect them to be on the digital counter.?

Any help is appreciated! Thanks!


Re: FT-101E conversion to 6883B finals

 

Thanks for sharing the link Emerson.? An excellent article on not only what NOT to do by why not...? ?I am always on the lookout for another FT101Z but will now be wary of the 'not working' stuff...? Al GM4ENF.


Re: FT-101E conversion to 6883B finals

 

Emerson, thanks for that. That cements my decision to return my 101E to original. At least I can backtrack what I did and it should work ... I've already bought the replacement 6JS6C sockets. Now I just have to find the tubes at an affordable price.?


On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 8:40 AM Emerson PP6EW <bunhoel@...> wrote:


A good advice.


Re: FT-101E conversion to 6883B finals

 



A good advice.


Re: 101zd low rx solution.

 

Interesting. My 101Z suddenly became 'deaf' some time ago.? After a lot of investigion work I came to the conclusion that? the first RF Amp device had likely failed.? I am a little reluctant to start desoldering etc as the rig is in 42 years old original untouched condition.? Were yuu able to source a genuing 3SK51 (or use an equivalent?) I cannot find one on internet but I understand that a 40673 will work.? Any frther information on your rix would be appreciated.? Thanks Al GM4ENF.


101zd low rx solution.

 

My 101zd was about 10db down on rx. I went down the troubleshooting road and cleaned all the relays I could find and checked the lamp fuse.?
Wound up changing the first rf amp and it came back to life.?
George NE2I?


FT-101E conversion to 6883B finals

 

Are there any members who have made the conversion from 6JS6C finals to 6883Bs according to the K3JLS.net documents?? If so, do you have any recommendations? I've done the conversion but have yet to get my rig back on line.


Re: FT-101EE Board complement. Is it okay?

 

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Thank you Don...appreciate it!



Mike


-------- Original message --------
From: Don KC6RHE <donw35@...>
Date: 8/19/23 9:30 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: Yaesu-FT-101@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-101] FT-101EE Board complement. Is it okay?

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 09:54 PM, mikemm58 wrote:
So here is what I currently have onboard, mine is an E model serial 240595, hope this helps

BLANKER???? PB1582B
REG ? ?????????? PB11547B
MOD???????????? PB1184A
AUDIO????????? PB1315A
RF???????????????? PB1181B
LO-IF??????????? PB1183C
HF-IF??????????? PB1180


Re: FT-101EE Board complement. Is it okay?

 

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 09:54 PM, mikemm58 wrote:
So here is what I currently have onboard, mine is an E model serial 240595, hope this helps

BLANKER???? PB1582B
REG ? ?????????? PB11547B
MOD???????????? PB1184A
AUDIO????????? PB1315A
RF???????????????? PB1181B
LO-IF??????????? PB1183C
HF-IF??????????? PB1180


Re: FT-101B Will not go into transmit with the mic or MOX switch

 

I bet its the switch, try using the other side of the switch that is not used, boom... works

KC6RHE

Don


Re: FT-101B Will not go into transmit with the mic or MOX switch

 

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Keith,

I would make sure the contacts on both relays are not corroded and making good connection. I assume you know how to do that?

Does the 'VFO' red LED stay lit when you key?



Mike


-------- Original message --------
From: panzermkv@...
Date: 7/31/23 7:52 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Yaesu-FT-101@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-101] FT-101B Will not go into transmit with the mic or MOX switch

Thanks Mike, I checked pins 1&2 and they are shorted.? I did pull out the other relay and it looked good, i didn't pull it apart.? When i key up or put it into MOX mode it sounds like it's still in Rx mode, I can hear the noise still.? I don't hear either of the relays clicking or engaging.??

KN6WNE

Keith.?


Re: FT-101B Will not go into transmit with the mic or MOX switch

 

Thanks Mike, I checked pins 1&2 and they are shorted.? I did pull out the other relay and it looked good, i didn't pull it apart.? When i key up or put it into MOX mode it sounds like it's still in Rx mode, I can hear the noise still.? I don't hear either of the relays clicking or engaging.??

KN6WNE

Keith.?


Re: FT-101B Will not go into transmit with the mic or MOX switch

 

Sorry about that I put my call sign in my profile and thought it would be visible on my posts.? KN6WNE Keith.? I do have schematics, I'll check what you've written.? It won't go into transmit with the MOX switch engage either.? I replaced C13 like Buddy says to do in his youtube videos.? His channel is called the radio guy.? I'll pull up the schematic and start tracing.? The Mic was tested on another 101 and it worked.? Thank you very much Tony

Regards,?

Keith B
KN6WNE