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dr5000 with yd9401
i may have a dr5000 with the yd9401 upgrade for sale ?175 + P&P if anyone interested
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Hi all. I am experiencing false triggering of inputs from section tracks furthest from a DR4088 which I suspect is caused by using long lengths of parallel cables using figure 8 wire as Kato Connectors: Cable ( https://www.osbornsmodels.com/kato-24-825-unitrack-dc-extension-cord-10963-p.asp ) In some cases I have 3 connected in series making cables 2.5m long. Is there any way that the input of DR4088 can be desensitised so that it triggers at a greater current draw that the 2mA that is stated in the manual? I do not have an Rrampmeter to determine if any current is drawn in an unoccupied state. If I cannot then I will need to split the cables down the centre or add a new DR4088 closer to the offending lengths of track. Those connections with only single length of cable are fine. Many thanks Colin
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Hi I decided to start a new topic as it will take me several weeks to complete the upgrading of our two DR5000s to YD7001s at York Railway Modellers in Toronto. I have to make sure that I keep the layout in the train room running (our production DR5000 / YD7001) while also keeping our programming environment stable (this DR5000 / YD7001 is used for programming and as a backup should our production DR500 / YD7001 have problems ). Lots of testing is going to be need to keep our members happy that they can always run trains. Right now our primary method of connecting to the train room layout is through LNWIs and the Loconet- T connection on the DR5000 - we have 4 LNWIs. The LNWIs have several limitations that we hope to eliminate using the multi-protocol capability of the YD7001, the built in WiFi and LAN through router capabilities of the YD7001. We need to be able to get to a minimum of 16 connected throttles running trains through a combination of the built in WiFi and router/LAN. 16 would support our current membership and getting above this level would allow us to continue to grow the clubs membership base. YaMoRC has not tested to this limit, per Karst, due to the limited number of throttles they have for testing. However, they did not hit any limits, they simply did not have more throttles to go higher. So our number one objective for upgrading is to eliminate the LNWIs and get to at least 16 concurrently connected throttles. Note: yes we could have used JMRI on a computer and it's WiThrottle server capability to do this, however, having a computer and waiting a few minutes for it to start up does not allow the members to simply throw a power switch and be running trains in 20 seconds. I will use this topic to post progress and any hints / tips we discover. On Friday, August 18 I succeeded in upgrading one of our two DR5000s to a YD7001. I followed the PDF instructions posted on DCC Train Automation and the task was done in about 40 minutes (I had pre-ordered the activation keys from YaMoRC so I did not need to wait for these keys to complete the task). I was very pleased with how easy the upgrade was. The unit I upgraded is our backup unit / programming track unit. I took my home layout router to the club so I could do testing without impacting the operation of the club layout. The first wireless test was done using the built in WiFi - we were able to simultaneously connect and run trains using the following throttles: UWT-100 * 2, UWT-50 * 2, Engine Driver on Android and WiThrottle on an iPhone. Next we tested the same throttles simultaneously only the time through my router and the LAN port on the YD7001 - again complete success. Our last test was to connect the same throttle and run trains using both the YD7001 built in WiFi and the router through the LAN port and as expected no problems were found. The last test I did was to ensure that we can continue to use JMRI on the YD7001 for programming. For the moment we will continue to use the USB connection to the YD7001 for programming. The only thing that I needed to change was the COM port that Windows assigned to LocoNet - it changed from COM 3 to COM 13. Since Windows dynamically assigns COM port numbers yours may not be 13 - use the Device Manager on Windows to determine what port has been assigned to LocoNet. Overall very impressed with how easy it was to upgrade and the results we achieved so far. Jay Lennox - Toronto
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The YD7001 Configuration software no longer talks to my YD7001 via USB. Running Windows 11. It did install and and it did run properly. The update worked fine. That was a week ago, A couple of days ago the app no longer talked to the YD7001 and it stays in YD7001 - DEMO mode. Going to the USB 2.0 tab says "Attention, Update only possible with USB connection!" okay, that seems clear. I don't see anything useful to me in the logging window. Unplugging it asks me to plug it in again. It knows I have plugged it on, but stays in DEMO mode. So it knows it's there but somehow can't talk to it. COM8 COM9 and COM10 are alight but there is no usb traffic on the unit itself. Track on/off does nothing. Windows Device Manager shows YaMoRC drivers installed with 9600 N 8 1 Changing USB cables makes no difference. Uninstalling and re-installing the software makes no difference. I went to the layout and installed the software on my Windows 10 computer. Worked perfectly. So does that ring any bells for anyone?
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Roco Throttles failing to connect to Yamorc 7001
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I upgraded my Digikeijs 5000 to the Yamorc 7001. I connected all my Rocos to the upgraded command station. Have been running trains with the different throttles all week. Today I had 7 operators over to run the railroad. The first three operators to turn on their throttles connected as expected. However, the fourth, fifth, sixth operator to turn on their Rocos was not able to connect to the Yamorc. The Rocos could see the Yamorc, but even after I re-inputted the password, they would not connect. Then when one of the original operators turned his throttle off, one of the others who could not connect before, could now connect. Is there a limit to the number of Roco throttles that can be actively connected at one time? Is there a software change I need to make in the Roco or the Yamorc? And incidentally, the two TCS throttles I have did connect as expected with the three Rocos. Thank you for any guidance on this. Ron White
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YaMoRC YD8116 and Digikeijs DR5000
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I am considering buying some MTB MP5 point motors and using the YD8116 to switch them and before I do just want to know whether the YD8116 will work with an unconverted DR5000. Sorry if this is a daft question. John
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Will adding an LED to a track (to indicate it is on) trigger the detection of the 4088CS?
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I know that I should just put together a test setup and confirm all of my assumptions, but I figured I would get other people's experieces first. I want to know if I put an LED on a track bumper that I could use to indicate whether the track is powered or not (I plan to use an MQTT controlled relay to turn yard tracks on and off) will the LED trip the detection circuit of the DR4088CS? I am also concerned about the MQTT relays, but my assumption is they are just a closed or open circuit and should not change the resistance of the circuit. -- Heath @ Human[c]ity http://www.humancity.org http://www.riversidetransfer.nyc
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DR5000 Program Track Loco long address
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Hi I am having some issues with programming locomotive with long address. First if I use JMRI Decoder Pro I get a message can not communicate with the command station ,ps I changed the USB Cable.no go.with DR5000 too JMRI . The Second if I use My MultiMaus or Wlanmaus Program Long address I receive a message error. If I use the Z21 App I am okay that works. And the DR5000 too Itrain is fine.as well I am not sure what I have done wrong. Andrew.
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DR5000, DR5033 and DR4088 on LocoNet
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Hello, I think I know the answer, but I want to confirm while I am planning out my layout. With Digitrax, there is only one LocoNet bus, and you connect the boosters and throttles, etc... all to the same connection. But with Digikeijs, there is a LocoNet T and LocoNet B. I will have two distribution areas, one with a DR5000 and DR4088 and one with a DR5033 and DR4088. Do I need to run two LocoNet cables between the DR5000 and the DR5033/DR4088? Put the 5033 on LocoNetB and put the 4088 on LocoNetT? Aside: Why did Digikeijs split the LocoNet bus into two separate runs, but Digitrax keeps it all on one? Thanks -- Heath @ Human[c]ity http://www.humancity.org http://www.riversidetransfer.nyc
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3 more dr4088lncs for sale
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i have 3 more dr4088lncs for sale Please email if interested Thanks Alan
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Difference between DR5000 and YD9401
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It appears that when I upgraded the DR5000 with the YD9401 turn out response has changed. Prior to the upgrade the turn outs responded almost instantly and there never was any delay on sending the command. I use RocRail for my layout software and the icon changes on the track plan but then it may take 20-30 seconds before the turn out actually responds. Also if a number of turn out commands are sent they appear to buffer and will wait for awhile and then process all of them at once. I use ESU switch controllers to actuate the actual turn out. The commands are sent via DCC. Again the only thing that changed was the upgrade to the DR5000. I am assuming its a timing setting someware but have not found it. Any guidence would be appreciated. Thanks Thomas
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Meeting Room 9-9-2023
www.whereby.com/yamorc meeting room is open today. Come over and say hello or we can just talk. -- Dennis Cherry Owner/Moderator
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DR4088CS | Max distance from Track/Feeder
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Hello, Is there a max distance for optimal detection when using a DR4088CS? I have three areas where the DR4088CS are all within 3-4' of the planned track/feeder locations. But there is one location where the track/feeders will be around 6'-8' from the DR4088CS. Any recommendation on the wiring to reduce any issues with detection? I am planning 22awg wire from the track to the DR4088CS. I will install the DR4088CS in the center of each section to keep wiring as short as possible. There are two sides on a DR4088CS, 1-8 and 9-16. Should I wire the longest sections to one side and the shortest sections to the other side? Or am I within a distance that will not matter? Any tips/pointer would be appreciated. Thanks -- Heath @ Human[c]ity http://www.humancity.org ( http://www.humancity.org/ ) http://www.riversidetransfer.nyc ( http://www.riversidetransfer.nyc/ )
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Hi All, real Ludite question. Just upgraded the DR 5000 to YD7001. Went smooth as silk. I own Traincontroller 9 silver but thinking about upgrading to Gold 10. I currently use the TC Gold Demo program before committing., but wavering because cannot connect by LAN. I can connect beautifully by USB. All works a treat. But try and switch to LAN connection and it times out. YD7001 connection changed to LAN. Now here is my Luddite question, I have the YD7001 connected directly to the Computer. All my reading assumes I work through a router. My question is do I need to go through a router or should the connect work fine through a direct connection? I want to free up the USB connection to work with JMRI for points and rosters and Decoder Pro, Lokprogrammer etc. Best Wishes to All Reg SAR HO Computer Wiz Wannabe.
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dr4088 lncs for sale
i have 4 dr4088 lncs modules for sale if interested please mail me
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Connecting WLANMaus throttle to YD7001
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Hi Now that there is support for multiple throttle connection protocols through the YD7001, I am trying to understand what we need to input into the WLANMaus to get it connected to the port on the YD7001 that is listening for the Z21 protocol. On the DR5000 there was only one port and it only supported one protocol at a time, so there was no need to input a port number into the WLANMaus settings. I have the YD7001 connected via the LAN port to a router. Connecting wirelessly to the router is easy - enter SSDI and password into the WLANMaus settings. Next logical step would be to input the IP address of the YD7001 into the WLANMaus settings - I believe I have done this correctly using the information from the YD7001 app on a connected windows computer. However, I do not know where in the WLANMaus settings to enter the port number that is listening for the Z21 protocol message stream - I can see what is is from the YD7001 windows app, but I do not know where to enter this information into the WLANMaus settings. If the port number does not need to be entered, that would suggest that the the WLANMaus is assuming a standard port number. Does anyone know what that port number is so I can check that it is set correctly in the YD7001 by looking at the app screens? Thanks for you assistance. Jay Lennox - Toronto
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September 4, 2023 Open Meeting 1:00PM-5;00PM CDT
Yesterday we had some interesting conversations. Had the Engineer that designed the TCS Throttles. We learned a lot. Worked on some product issues. One topic came up to make a spreadsheet of comparing the Digikeijs products numbers to the YaMoRC product number. Also add the latest revision numbers to the spreadsheet. If you want to volunteer for this task let me know. www.whereby.com/yamorc -- Dennis Cherry Owner/Moderator-
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Meeting Room Sept 3, 2023 Starting 1:00 PM CDT
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www.whereby.com/yamorc Lets do a open meeting starting around 1:00 PM CDT. It is open to everyone. We can talk about YaMoRC products, setup of equipment, Problems, Show-N-Tell,etc When entering the room can you use your first name or Handle and also add your location Example "Dennis TX" or "Fred AZ" This Room is open 24/7 for all members to use anytime you want. If you have a problem and need help and another member can go to the room and wok on the problem. Hope to see you there. -- Dennis Cherry Owner/Moderator
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Hello, How would I wire the MTB MP 5 point motors with a DR4018/DK50018/YD8116? Would I use the DR4101 and use two wire control of the MP5? Or can I use three wire control of the MP5 and go straight out of the decoder? Thanks -- Heath @ Human[c]ity http://www.humancity.org http://www.riversidetransfer.nyc
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YD7001 - LAN LED Behaviour
Hi Previously I have observed that when there is a good and solid LAN connection between the YD7001 and a router the LAN LED is yellow and always ON. Has anyone else observed a different behaviour of the LED? Yesterday while about 6 throttles (using the WiThrottle protocol) were connected to the YD7001 through the WiFi of the router, we started to notice that the throttles were loosing the WiFi connection (messages on the throttles indicated they had lost connection to the command station). Further observation showed that the LAN LED on the YD7001 was not solid yellow, but rather turning off for very short periods, suggesting to me that the YD7001 connection to the LAN was a little unstable. There were no message in the YD7001 application suggesting the the LAN connection was 'DEAD'. Has anyone else observed this? Thanks for any help you can provide. Jay Lennox - Toronto PS. We do have a gigabit switch installed in the LAN between the router and the YD7001 to stabilize the YD7001 LAN connection as suggested by Karst.
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