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Switch controller for Peco PL-11 motors

 

During one of the lockdowns I built a small n scale railway. Peco shut down for the period of the lockdown so I used Kato track and the DR4018 which drove the point motors with no problem. After some time I rebuilt the layout using Peco track and turnouts, I have some constrains with space and need to hide the layout away after use so bought Peco PL-11 surface mounted motors on the assumption they would be similar to the Kato equivalents. Having tested the first installed point motor I now know they don't work as the DR4018 output voltage is too low. (Yes I know I should have checked first).

I need either to replace the motors with a similar surface mounted motor, or find a compatible switch controller. It looks like the YD8008 is a suitable replacement but before I get my card out can anyone confirm it will work with the PL-11 motors?

Thanks

Robin
 

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The DR4018 should operate the Peco surface mount motors but it will need configuring to Preset 0, ideally using a separate power supply which is 12v 3A DC.

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The DR4018 is not suitable for the PL10 or PL10e motors.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of RobinP
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 12:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: YaMoRC, Digikeijs, JMRI, English Switch controller for Peco PL-11 motors

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During one of the lockdowns I built a small n scale railway. Peco shut down for the period of the lockdown so I used Kato track and the DR4018 which drove the point motors with no problem. After some time I rebuilt the layout using Peco track and turnouts, I have some constrains with space and need to hide the layout away after use so bought Peco PL-11 surface mounted motors on the assumption they would be similar to the Kato equivalents. Having tested the first installed point motor I now know they don't work as the DR4018 output voltage is too low. (Yes I know I should have checked first).

I need either to replace the motors with a similar surface mounted motor, or find a compatible switch controller. It looks like the YD8008 is a suitable replacement but before I get my card out can anyone confirm it will work with the PL-11 motors?

Thanks

Robin
 

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 04:20 AM, RobinP wrote:
It looks like the YD8008 is a suitable replacement but before I get my card out can anyone confirm it will work with the PL-11 motors?

Well, they (YD8008) are a.o. specially designed for the PECO motors :) No need to mention that they have been extensively tested with the PL-11's

Best results are obtained, by supplying the YD8008 with 15-19V DC from a 500mA wallwart powersupply. However feeding them directly from the DCC bus is also a very good option. Since they only draw aroud 400mA for about 0.8 seconds to charge the CDU ( that is 0.5 - 0.8 seconds after each switching )

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?but it will need configuring to Preset 0, ideally using a separate power supply which is 12v 3A DC.

That is exactly what is the weak point of the DR4018. The need fore these kind of humongous powersupplies....

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Greets,

Karst
 

I used the PL11 motors in my fiddle yard but they were just too unreliable, it’s not the 4018, I have 3 of them and they all work fine, I ended up swapping the Pl11s for the surface mount motors offered by Rails of sheffield under their Rails connect brand, they’re made in conjunction with DCC concepts and are miles better than the pl11s, the only thing I had to do was get a friend with a 3d printer to make some spacers to fit the throwing arm hole as it’s one size fits all, so that makes it too big for Peco N gauge points. ?Hope this helps

Andy
 

Thanks Iain and Karst, I have preset to 0 but using the DR5000 as power source which doesn't work. I have a 12V 5A power supply in my don't throw it away it might come in useful box so will give it a try, better than buying a second controller. If it gives me problems I will go for the YD8008.

Robin
 

Thanks Andy, I will give these a try and see what happens but I will bear your comments in mind. I did look for an alternative surface mount but didn't see the Rails connect ones, I will take a look for future reference.
Robin?
 

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Have you also looked at MTB MP1 motors, I use them surface-mounted in my storage yard (driven by DR4018s)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of RobinP
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 6:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: YaMoRC, Digikeijs, JMRI, English Switch controller for Peco PL-11 motors

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Thanks Andy, I will give these a try and see what happens but I will bear your comments in mind. I did look for an alternative surface mount but didn't see the Rails connect ones, I will take a look for future reference.
Robin?

Alastair
 

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Hi All,

So do I - works fine.

Cheers,

Alastair

Sent from my mobile device - apologies for any misspelling, misinformation or mistakes

On 26 Aug 2023, at 06:59, Iain Morrison <w.iain.morrison@...> wrote:

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Have you also looked at MTB MP1 motors, I use them surface-mounted in my storage yard (driven by DR4018s)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of RobinP
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 6:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: YaMoRC, Digikeijs, JMRI, English Switch controller for Peco PL-11 motors

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Thanks Andy, I will give these a try and see what happens but I will bear your comments in mind. I did look for an alternative surface mount but didn't see the Rails connect ones, I will take a look for future reference.
Robin?

 

Iain

I have tried 12V DC with a transformer of 5A but it still doesn't work. Somewhere I have a variable switched transformer capable of 12V to about 18V if I can find it I will give it a try but probably going to be a YD8008 as least painful solution.

I have some MTB MP1 motors which work fine under the board but they don't really work surface mounted in this case,

Robin

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