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Re: DR4088xx loconet and S88 modules

 

Thank you Iain that makes sense.


Re: Help solving a loco that will not run after upgrading DR5000 to YD7001

 

Hi Jay,

Not 100% sure but that decoder might not like RailCom.?

Try turning off the cutout and see what happens.

Ryan


Re: Upgraded DR5000 now YD7001

 

Removed and reinstalled,? all fixed.


Re: DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?

 

In this illustration from the DR5000 manual shows a DR5000 connected to a power district in conjunction with other DR5033 boosters. Therefore this is either inaccurate or the DR5033 differs from the DB210 Opto. somehow.
In which case what other boosters would be a replacement for the 5033, i.e. different to a DB210 Opto.


Re: DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?

 

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 09:33 AM, Alexander Wood wrote:
just don't use the DR5000's internal booster for a power district. Unpleasant things may occur. You can use it for an accessory bus if you want to.
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So can't use the DR5000 to power a district whenever using another booster, regardless that a DB210 OPTO not requiring ground (actually states not to). Great!

As for the DR5000 manual, to quote, what's this all about?
If more power is required, use a booster with an H-bridge at the output, such as the DR5033. Older boosters with a
common ground connection (e.g. M?rklin?, Uhlenbrock?) are not suitable and will cause short circuits and/or damage to the DR5000.


Re: DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?

 

Again, you can still connect a ground to an opto-isolated booster, as NCE does. You can use either OPTO or regular Digitrax boosters with the DR5000, just don't use the DR5000's internal booster for a power district. Unpleasant things may occur. You can use it for an accessory bus if you want to.

Alex


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Alexander Wood

Hartford-New Haven, CT

Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO

Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex



On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 12:49?AM Nags via <snowy999=[email protected]> wrote:
Why do many have (need?) ground whilst the DB210 OPTO and DR5000 don't/can't?
From what I gather the OPTO bit is to allow DCC signals from another sources to be used without unpleasant things happening.
I intend to use LocoNet B to connect the DR5000 to the DB210. Apart from ensuring voltages between power districts are close I assume all will be good.


Re: Upgraded DR5000 now YD7001

 

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I would check on device manager to see if there are any conflicts, if not worth uninstalling the software, disconnecting the YD7001, then reinstall and finally reconnect.

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Iain Morrison

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of colinayres1 via groups.io
Sent: 29 January 2024 21:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: YaMoRC, Digikeijs, JMRI, English Upgraded DR5000 now YD7001

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Yes as requested in the setup as it installed. wonder if its a driver problem? however it knows its there because it makes a noise when it connects.


Re: Upgraded DR5000 now YD7001

 

Yes as requested in the setup as it installed. wonder if its a driver problem? however it knows its there because it makes a noise when it connects.


Re: Upgraded DR5000 now YD7001

 

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When you installed the YD9401 software on your new PC did you also install the USB drivers, and if you are using the network to connect have you set that up correctly?

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Many Thanks

Iain Morrison

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 at 08:30, colinayres1 via <colinayres1=[email protected]> wrote:

Quite a few months ago I took the plunge and upgraded my DR5000 using Yamorc new WiFi module.? Absolutely fantastic.? However I have had to replace my computer. I downloaded the software for the module and installed it, however it just comes up with demo. Now I can't operate the unit from the computer. I can however operate it using the Z21 app on my phone. I've watched some old YouTube videos where it shows about licence key, but the module is not asking me for this, probably because it's already registered.

Any help would be greatly appreciate ??


Re: DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?

 

Why do many have (need?) ground whilst the DB210 OPTO and DR5000 don't/can't?
From what I gather the OPTO bit is to allow DCC signals from another sources to be used without unpleasant things happening.
I intend to use LocoNet B to connect the DR5000 to the DB210. Apart from ensuring voltages between power districts are close I assume all will be good.


Re: DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?

 

You can still connect a common with an opto-isolated booster. NCE does it this way. The DR5000 doesn't have a ground connection, and apparently isn't opto-isolated either, which is problematic. I went down that rabbit hole with?the DR5033 a while back, I can't remember all the details.

Alex


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Alexander Wood

Hartford-New Haven, CT

Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO

Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex



On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 1:06?AM Nags via <snowy999=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Alex,
I couldn't find anything about the DB210 being a H Bridge booster.
I noted the DB210 manual does mention not connecting ground for the OPTO version.
Then again I couldn't find a ground connection on the DR5000 anyway.

Out of curiosity what is the point of OPTO and the significance of H Bridge here?


Re: DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?

 

Thanks Alex,
I couldn't find anything about the DB210 being a H Bridge booster.
I noted the DB210 manual does mention not connecting ground for the OPTO version.
Then again I couldn't find a ground connection on the DR5000 anyway.

Out of curiosity what is the point of OPTO and the significance of H Bridge here?


Re: DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?

 

Yes. The non-OPTO boosters are fine too as long as you don't mix them with the internal booster in the DR5000 and have a heavy gauge common.

Alex


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Alexander Wood

Hartford-New Haven, CT

Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO

Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex



On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 5:51?PM Nags via <snowy999=[email protected]> wrote:
DR5000 manual refers to optical isolation and H bridge but not sure what this actually means.
Would a DB210 OPTO Booster be compatible with the DR5000?
Want to check before possibly damaging either.


DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?

 

DR5000 manual refers to optical isolation and H bridge but not sure what this actually means.
Would a DB210 OPTO Booster be compatible with the DR5000?
Want to check before possibly damaging either.


Help solving a loco that will not run after upgrading DR5000 to YD7001

 

Hi

I just upgraded a DR5000 that run the layout in the train room? to a YD7001 using a YD9401.? After the upgrade everything works fine except for one loco, 5702, which will not respond to any commands - ring bell, sound whistle, go to speed step 10, etc.? 5702 ran fine with the DR5000 before I upgraded it.? What is interesting is that 5702 works just fine on our test track using an NCE PowerCab.? When the YD7001 is connected to the test track, 5702 will not respond.

To make sure it was not a DCC address issue, I renumbered another loco to 5702, and it works fine with both NCE and the YD7001.

5702 has a?QSI Steam - BLI Hudson 4-6-4 decoder according to DecoderPro.

Does anyone have any suggestion or experience with this type of problem?

Jay Lennox - Toronto


Re: DR4088xx loconet and S88 modules

 

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You will need to ensure that you leave enough address space between the YD6016LN ranges to allow for the S88 connections, but otherwise should be OK.

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Iain Morrison

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andrew Jebb
Sent: 24 January 2024 17:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: YaMoRC, Digikeijs, JMRI, English DR4088xx loconet and S88 modules

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Going back to this old topic of mine would the following work? and how would the addressing on the S88's work in this configuration? Excuse the rough sketch?


Re: DR4088xx loconet and S88 modules

 

Going back to this old topic of mine would the following work? and how would the addressing on the S88's work in this configuration? Excuse the rough sketch?


DR5013 and Hornby sound decoders

 

I've run across a baffling issue. Some time ago I installed a DR5013 as a reverse loop in current sensing mode, not short circuit. It has worked without issue until I installed a new Hornby TXS bluetooth sound decoder in a new locomotive.?

I have run many of my locomotives, sound equipped and not, through the reverse loop. I even added a layed up Hornby locomotive with TTS sound (an early Hornby sound decoder for those who may not be familiar). The issue occurrs only with the Hornby sound decoders, and only when the sound is turned on. What happens is the DR5013 goes into a short circuit condition and cuts the power to the loop. The red LED next to the reset button flashes until it's reset. If the locomotive is still present, the short will happen again as soon as throttle is applied.

I'm using a Roco Z21 base station and double booster - one booster is providing track power to the DR5013, and the 5013 is linked to the Z21 via Loconet. The 5013's short condition was sending a stop command to the Z21, which cut power to the whole layout, however I've fixed that by turning off the short forwarding from the 5013 to the Z21 via loconet (that's to Iain Morrison's suggestion on another forum). My next action will be to increase the short circuit delay in the 5013 and see if that helps.

I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered a similar problem, and if so, how they fixed it? My likely long term solution is to replace the 5013 with something better (maybe wait until the Yamorc version comes out - hopefully this year).?

Regards,
Jay M


Re: DR4018 set address to something OTHER THAN 9999

 

You can have flashing and solid aspects if you use one of the signal configurations, but that will limit you to four signal heads per DR4018, I use NMBS as that gives me the aspects I use for US signals.

Mike


Re: DR4018 set address to something OTHER THAN 9999

 

Ok, got it, thanks for the quick replies!