The Controlmaster 20 track terminals are hooked to one set of connections on the DPDT Center off toggle switch. The DR5000 track terminals are hooked to another set of connections on the DPDT toggle switch. The center connections on the DPDT toggle switch are hooked to the main buss wires. I can then toggle between DC & DCC, using one system at a time only.
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:05 AM Dennis Cherry < dbcherry@...> wrote: Question:
What terminals are you connected to on the MRC Controlmaster 20 DC power pack?
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Question:
What terminals are you connected to on the MRC Controlmaster 20 DC power pack?
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Ryan, ? ? ? ? ?That is how I have mine hooked up now and everything works fine with no buzzing turnouts. The problem starts when I disconnect the power input wires that are jumpered from the signal input on the DR4018. It doesn't matter whether the external power supply is connected or if nothing is connected to the power input, as soon as track power is turned on they buzz. It is strange that the only thing that stops the buzzing is to jumper from the signal input to the power input. I guess I will try bypassing that buss hub and see what that does. It is the only component between the RRampmeter and the DR4018. Thanks for the help you have given me with this issue. On another note, any idea when you may get some n-scale Peco code 80 insulfrog turnouts back in?stock ?
Don,
I connected the DR5000 straight to a RRampmeter and then to the DR4018.?
Power & Signal both off the RRampmeter.
Using a DR4101 in between the DR4018 and the Kato.
I was able to throw the turnout just fine without any buzzing sounds.
You may have to disconnect the other items and then add them back in one at a time until you find it.
Ryan
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Don,
I connected the DR5000 straight to a RRampmeter and then to the DR4018.?
Power & Signal both off the RRampmeter.
Using a DR4101 in between the DR4018 and the Kato.
I was able to throw the turnout just fine without any buzzing sounds.
You may have to disconnect the other items and then add them back in one at a time until you find it.
Ryan
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Re: DR4018,, z21, and layout map
Thanks George!? I understand that many consider the Wi throttle and Engine Driver to be the "defacto standard" for wifi operations with a cell phone.? It's on my list of things to try in the future.? I plan on starting with the z21.? Thanks again, have a great day!
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Re: DR4018,, z21, and layout map
Rick I have not used the Z21 app but what you want todo with a display is definitely do able with JMRI. JMRI¡¯s Engine Driver app supports both individual switch control as well as setting routes.
George
George Bryan
Blaxland NSW
Australia
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On 20 May 2020, at 2:38 pm, Rick Norell via groups.io <ricknorell@...> wrote:
sequentially say from staging to the other end of the layout? Let's say I have four towns on the layout and switches in each town are controlled by a separate 4018. I take picture of the track layout for
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DR4018,, z21, and layout map
I plan use to use DR4018s to control my turnouts and use the z21 app to run DR5000.? I am intrigued by being able to see the turnouts on a layout image and see their current orientation.? Is it possible to orient the layout images sequentially say from staging to the other end of the layout?? Let's say I have four towns on the layout and switches in each town are controlled by a separate 4018.? I take picture of the track layout for town A and identify the turnouts.? Do the same for town B and then town D, skipping C in the building process.? Later, I would be build C and add the turnouts plus town C layout image.? Is it possible to arrange the layout images A, B, C, and D even though not constructed in order, or more importantly, not added to the z21 in order?
Second question, I know I can display the engine controls and the layout image side by side if I use a tablet.? How cumbersome is it to switch between train operation and accessories with z21 on a smart phone?
Some modelers say that controlling turnouts with dcc decoders is cumbersome over using a control panel.? They suggest if using stationary decoders, use a decoder that also allows use of push buttons on the fascia to control turnouts.? Do you agree?? Personally, I think a stationary decoder forces the engineer to slow down operations, similar stopping to let the brakeman off to throw a switch, etc.? The engineer can plan ahead on which switches will need to be thrown to deliver cars to the appropriate spots.? Agree?
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Ryan, ? ? ? ? ?Sure thing. I definitely would like to get it figured out so I can begin using the external power supply for the DR4018. Thank you for all your help with this issue.
Don,
Give me a day or two and I'll try it that way and let you know.
Ryan
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Don,
Give me a day or two and I'll try it that way and let you know.
Ryan
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Ryan, ? ? ? ? ?Yes the RRampmeter is wired in between the DR5000 and my track buss wires.
Don,?
I put the RRampmeter on the track and didn't hear anything.??
Do you have yours wired in on the track bus for permanent installation?
Ryan?
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Don,?
I put the RRampmeter on the track and didn't hear anything.??
Do you have yours wired in on the track bus for permanent installation?
Ryan?
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Thanks Ryan, I appreciate the answer.? Any word on the RRampmeter and the buzzing Kato turnouts ?
Don,
DC going into the DR4018 will not hurt it. It will be just fine.
You are good to go!
Ryan
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Don,
DC going into the DR4018 will not hurt it. It will be just fine.
You are good to go!
Ryan
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Hi all, ? ? ? ? ?I have a DR4018 installed on my layout with the signal inputs connected to my main buss line and temporarily the power inputs are daisy chained from the signal inputs. I have a DPDT Center Off toggle switch installed on my layout with 1 set of connections to my DR5000 and the other set of connections to an MRC Controlmaster 20 DC power pack. The center connections are connected to my main buss line. With this setup I can switch the whole layout between DCC and DC, one system at a time. I do this because I can test run and break in DC locomotives before adding a DCC decoder to them.?My question is since the DR4018 inputs are connected to my buss line, will switching the layout to DC power damage the DR4018 in any way ? Will I need to disconnect the DR4018 before applying DC power to my buss line ? Thanks in advance for your help with this matter.
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Re: DR5000, Dr5088RC, RailCom and iTrain
The DR5000 on power up keeps the track power off, if you have the DR5000 set to turn On the track power on start up the data information is being sent to itTrain or JMRI before it is needed.
I have that problem:
My DR5000 is configured to turn the track power on upon power up, this is my preference.
Using JMRI in my startup, the last? thing I do is to power cycle the output.
This sends the status of all the decoders, turnouts etc. to the command station so JMRI has good data to display on the Panels.
Look at this video. ? It has a couple of omissions but you will see how I get the display right.
Dennis
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Re: DR5000, Dr5088RC, RailCom and iTrain
What decoders are you using or giving the problem.
It might be an over load of data.
Are you using Boosters?
Dennis
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Re: DR5000, Dr5088RC, RailCom and iTrain
I use the DR5000 with the DR5088RC in JMRI and works flawlessly.
My reports are solid.
Take a look at the Loco-Net monitor data if you can in ITrain. See if it is the same as you are seeing.
Dennis
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DR5000, Dr5088RC, RailCom and iTrain
I have spent a good part of this afternoon trying (and failing) to understand why a DR5000 does not read all loco RailCom IDs immediately when connected through either USB or LAN to iTrain 5. The feedback is provided by DR5088RC.
The symptoms are that the iTrain connects quickly to the DR5000, either over the LAN or USB and generally reads about 50% of the locos that are on the tracks (12) and switching the track off and on via iTrain or the buttons on the DR5000 several times will eventually have iTrain display the IDs for all locos in the feedbacks - though each time it switches on it is different set of locos whose RailCom ID is read until eventually they are all read and displayed. All feedbacks that are occupied shows as being occupied correctly in iTrain however they don't show the RailCom ID however moving the loco from one feedback to another in the same block will display the ID instantly.
The iTrain USB interface was connected as a DR5000 with 115k baud and the LAN interface was connected using Loconet TCP/IP on iTrain and the same on the DR5000. In both case the connection to iTrain is extremely fast.
My question is whether this is normal behaviour for RailCom with a DR5000 as it is not how it works with a Z21 where all IDs are shown instantly without needing to reread anything or move the trains to a different feedback.
Any ideas or suggestions?
Iain Morrison
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Re: DR5000 LocoNet throttle support
Jay, ? When the DR5000 was first brought out it began life with LocoNet 2.0.? The UR91 & R throttles were already discontinued and therefore weren¡¯t included in the support. ? Plugged in they work fine. ? I have sent them a UR91 & UT4R to work with.? ? The problem is, there is some code issued to join them in wireless mode and it is unclear as to which device sends the code.? ? As you probably experienced, the speed steps don¡¯t follow for very long.? ? I¡¯m sure it is a very simple fix, so is it possible they may work someday, yes.? ? As far as I know, all other LocoNet throttles work fine.? ? Ryan ? ?
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From: Jay LennoxSent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:50 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [Digikeijs EN] DR5000 LocoNet throttle support ? Ryan
You said 'The only known Digitrax throttles that aren't working yet are the (R) throttles when used wirelessly with a UR91.'? Do you have any details on the problems with these?
I was in the process of starting to play with a UR91 and two UT4Rs that one of the members brought into the club when Canada got forced into the COVID-19 lock down.? They worked for a minute or two and then the just stopped controlling the train.? I thought it might be a battery issue or the distance the UTR4s were from the UR91, but I have not had a chance to investigate further as we are still being asked not to gather with other than the people you live with.
Do you have any other information you can provide as to what happens when we try to use UT4Rs with a UR91 that would be useful?? It is beginning to sound like I may be wasting my time to try to get this configuration to work.? Our DR5000 is on firmware version 1.5.5.
Thanks
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Re: DR5013 problem - it sees a short when there isn't one
I can now verify that it was NOT the DR5013. I swapped the PSX-AR back in and got the same problem. Turns out to be a track gremlin! There was a loco sitting on another track (not a reversing track), two blocks away. When that locomotive was moved away, the problem dissappeared. That area had recently been sceniced -- I don't know if that was releated to the problem. Now I just need to see what is going on in that area of the wiring. Then I can get back to making the short circuit pause go away (I was closing and throwing a non-existant turnout via a script, based on block occupancy and several other turnouts to do that). It will be interesting to see where and why the interaction with the other loco turns out to be.
Scott
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