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Nowhere near enough power to be anything but DANGEROUS !!! Dont even try !!!

h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on 5/01/2015 12:00 PM:

Has anyone had any experience with a X-Air-F with a 503 on it,I understand the wing is a shorter and flaps as well as a different tail.I am just getting ready to fly mine and am looking for a little insite Thanks

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Is that because of the shorter wing and smaller tail,the standard used a 503 right.Thanks

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The 503 is not enough power for a large 2 seat aircraft like the X-Air and never on the "F" model which needs about 75 plus HP to fly properly. Thanks Michael

h.hibbs@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on 5/01/2015 12:24 PM:

Is that because of the shorter wing and smaller tail,the standard used a 503 right.Thanks

With regards,    Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.

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Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012

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#11593

With that said are you saying the 582 at 65hp is not enough as well, I was judging the X-Air with the flightstar that flies pretty good with a 503 ,I understand they are different but they do have a lot in common. The engine set up I was going to use was off my Flightstar but if there will be a problem I better rethink it,I do have a mod 99 582 that I could use. Any thoughts are appreciated?.Thanks?

#11594

I am flying an X-Air F in tropical north Queensland, Australia with a brand new Rotax582 (65HP). In these hot humid conditions, the 582 is Ok with one up but certainly struggles a lot more with 2 POB and a full load. They are much heavier and feel a lot more solid in the air than the Standard, and it really doesn't like airspeeds below 50kts. Mine weighed in at 303kg empty but that includes a 16kg recovery chute, 2mm?polycarb screen and doors. A friend is flying the same F model in cooler climates, with a 618(75HP) using the same gearbox/prop combo, but without doors (at this time). Currently his performance and fuel burn appears similar but I expect that to change once the drag is reduced with the doors.

#11595

If I was to look for a higher HP rated engine is there a max weight that can be installed in place of the 582 ,not sure how much the Jabiru comes it at complete? or even the Bmw conversion?. I know the Weight and Balance has to be correct but am just wondering what has been tried .Thank for the input.

#11616

Hi, mine is powered with Jabiru 2200, flies great with no issues at all and just over 280hrs logged in all Queensland, Australia times of the year which includes hot temps in the western areas. I believe that a few have also been fitted with the rotax 912, Seamus in Ireland may be able to help with details of these combinations.

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Greg

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If I was to look for a higher HP rated engine is there a max weight that can be installed in place of the 582 ,not sure how much the Jabiru comes it at complete? or even the Bmw conversion?. I know the Weight and Balance has to be correct but am just wondering what has been tried .Thank for the input.