Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
Thanks for the sagely advice, Michael!
On 26/03/2015 21:01, Michael Coates
mcoates@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:
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Hello Gwyn...... if
you like to tinker and not fly for a few months then if
you have the dollars by all means convert the aircraft to
a Rotax 80 hp but you will find the plane goes a little
bit faster, climbs a little bit quicker but it becomes
what most people consider heavy when compared to a 582
powered aircraft. The best option we ever had was the
Rotax 618 which was lightweight and produced 75 hp. This
engine really suited the X-Air and gave it massive sales
success in a lot of markets. Personally, having the
aircraft out of the air for many months whilst I did the
conversion, the cost of the new engine etc. etc. would
make me think it is simply not a worthwhile exercise. I
would continue to enjoy the aircraft fitted with the 582,
put up with a slightly higher fuel consumption from the
two-stroke engine versus the four stroke engine and just
enjoy life. The extra few litres of fuel you are now
using is really not a big deal compared to the cost of a
four stroke engine. The best advice I could give you for
ultimate satisfaction is to only ever fly with a tail wind
!
Gwyn gwyndaniels@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote, On 27/03/2015 3:30 AM:
I've had a standard on a 582 for 4 years and have
very much enjoyed it. Very stable and a great climber.
A bit frustrated in a headwind now and the 2 stroke
limitations on distance. Has anyone advice for me on
converting it to a Jabiru or 912? Is it worth it or a
waste of time and effort?
Gwyn
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
Hello all, on
paper the jabiru is a great engine but in the field it does have
other issues.
Many of you in other parts of the world may not be aware of the
very heavy restrictions put in place for the engine operations
and manufacture by the CAA in Australia just before Christmas.
If you are not already aware of these problems could I suggest a
quick Internet search to pull up the relevant details? casa.gov.au
?
I use the Jab 2200 on my Hawk. Works great just make sure
you keep it cool have good airflow
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Date:03-26-2015 5:13 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or
Standard HELP !!!!
?
read here two guys pointing out best of best
Ray
You didn't mention........no gear box ,no oil cooler,
running at 2x the
rpms, more gas all is more weight , not to mention 76
hose connections to
support the systems, then there is the 100's of updated
rotax issuses. I
am sure I missed some pluses also , and we all realize
,each has his own
thoughts
Love the combo T & J
Dave
?
I love my Tornado, especially with the Jabiru.? I
believe they are a
perfect match.? The Jab only burns about 3gph, no oil
mixing, no
radiator,? runs very strong.? I have worked on both my
Jabirus
and they are great for the wrench head with some
experience who wants to
save bundles doing his own work.? The work I did was a
re-ring job
on both engines due to cylinder corrosion from improper
storage and lack
of use.? You have to run them or at least turn the prop
every
week.
My T-II is a great handling plane, can turn on a dime,
climbs great, and
is very forgiving of crappy landings.? Only downside is
they are
very pitch sensitive and can scare the crapola out of
you on landing if
you have not flown one before.
I had the engine quit due to a previous owner using
silicone in the fuel
tank and landed in a VERY muddy farm field and the plane
was completely
undamaged, except for needing a thourough cleaning.
?I built my T-S because I got a great deal and wanted
the extra room
and the bells and whistles that came with it.
The only thing I do not like is the tandem seating,
because I think
passengers are more at ease when next to you.
Ray Henrie T-II 9079R T-S 1776E
4TN9
?
I've had a standard on a 582 for 4 years and have very
much enjoyed it.
Very stable and a great climber. A bit frustrated in a
headwind now and
the 2 stroke limitations on distance. Has anyone advice
for me on
converting it to a Jabiru or 912? Is it worth it or a
waste of time and
effort?
Gwyn
On 26/03/2015 09:29,
avia1or01@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:
?
I've been flying a 912 Falcon for a year and am loving
it.
When buying I was advised that the flaps are a waste
of time and I should
get a standard, however when a 912 Falcon came on the
market I had to
have it.
Supposedly ? the F is slightly faster but if you want
fast this is
completely the wrong plane as both tootle along at 50
to 60
knots.
I have never used the flaps, there seems to be no
point in them. It leaps
of the ground like an excited puppy so I don't need
them for take off and
it lands in a very short space so I don't need them
for landing. ? I
guess they would be handy if I was trying to do an
emergency landing in
somebodies garden.
If I was buying I would ignore whether its an Falcon
or a standard and
concentrate on more important things such as the
engine and condition.
Either aircraft is a fantastic machine, very safe and
predictable. They
are als o by aeroplane standards very easy and cheap
to maintain. I
bought the whole aircraft for less than our group
Cessna cost for its
annual.
Do take a test flight and get the aircraft checked
over before buying
it.?
Regards,
Jon
With regards, Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
?Hello Gwyn......??? if you like
to tinker and not fly for a few months then if you have the
dollars by all means convert the aircraft to a Rotax 80 hp but you
will find the plane goes a little bit faster, climbs a little bit
quicker but it becomes what most people consider heavy when
compared to a 582 powered aircraft. The best option we ever had
was the Rotax 618 which was lightweight and produced 75 hp. This
engine really suited the X-Air and gave it massive sales success
in a lot of markets. Personally, having the aircraft out of the
air for many months whilst I did the conversion, the cost of the
new engine etc. etc. would make me think it is simply not a
worthwhile exercise. I would continue to enjoy the aircraft fitted
with the 582, put up with a slightly higher fuel consumption from
the two-stroke engine versus the four stroke engine and just enjoy
life. The extra few litres of fuel you are now? using is really
not a big deal compared to the cost of a four stroke engine. The
best advice I could give you for ultimate satisfaction is to only
ever fly with a tail wind !
Gwyn gwyndaniels@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote, On 27/03/2015 3:30 AM:
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I've had a standard on a 582 for 4 years and have very
much enjoyed it. Very stable and a great climber. A bit
frustrated in a headwind now and the 2 stroke limitations
on distance. Has anyone advice for me on converting it to
a Jabiru or 912? Is it worth it or a waste of time and
effort?
Gwyn
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
I use the Jab 2200 on my Hawk. Works great just make sure you keep it cool have good airflow
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-------- Original message -------- From: "drice003@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]" Date:03-26-2015 5:13 PM (GMT-04:00) To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@... Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
?
read here two guys pointing out best of best
Ray
You didn't mention........no gear box ,no oil cooler, running at 2x the
rpms, more gas all is more weight , not to mention 76 hose connections to
support the systems, then there is the 100's of updated rotax issuses. I
am sure I missed some pluses also , and we all realize ,each has his own
thoughts
Love the combo T & J
Dave
?
I love my Tornado, especially with the Jabiru.? I believe they are a
perfect match.? The Jab only burns about 3gph, no oil mixing, no
radiator,? runs very strong.? I have worked on both my Jabirus
and they are great for the wrench head with some experience who wants to
save bundles doing his own work.? The work I did was a re-ring job
on both engines due to cylinder corrosion from improper storage and lack
of use.? You have to run them or at least turn the prop every
week.
My T-II is a great handling plane, can turn on a dime, climbs great, and
is very forgiving of crappy landings.? Only downside is they are
very pitch sensitive and can scare the crapola out of you on landing if
you have not flown one before.
I had the engine quit due to a previous owner using silicone in the fuel
tank and landed in a VERY muddy farm field and the plane was completely
undamaged, except for needing a thourough cleaning.
?I built my T-S because I got a great deal and wanted the extra room
and the bells and whistles that came with it.
The only thing I do not like is the tandem seating, because I think
passengers are more at ease when next to you.
Ray Henrie T-II 9079R T-S 1776E
4TN9
?
I've had a standard on a 582 for 4 years and have very much enjoyed it.
Very stable and a great climber. A bit frustrated in a headwind now and
the 2 stroke limitations on distance. Has anyone advice for me on
converting it to a Jabiru or 912? Is it worth it or a waste of time and
effort?
Gwyn
On 26/03/2015 09:29,
avia1or01@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:
?
I've been flying a 912 Falcon for a year and am loving it.
When buying I was advised that the flaps are a waste of time and I should
get a standard, however when a 912 Falcon came on the market I had to
have it.
Supposedly ? the F is slightly faster but if you want fast this is
completely the wrong plane as both tootle along at 50 to 60
knots.
I have never used the flaps, there seems to be no point in them. It leaps
of the ground like an excited puppy so I don't need them for take off and
it lands in a very short space so I don't need them for landing. ? I
guess they would be handy if I was trying to do an emergency landing in
somebodies garden.
If I was buying I would ignore whether its an Falcon or a standard and
concentrate on more important things such as the engine and condition.
Either aircraft is a fantastic machine, very safe and predictable. They
are als o by aeroplane standards very easy and cheap to maintain. I
bought the whole aircraft for less than our group Cessna cost for its
annual.
Do take a test flight and get the aircraft checked over before buying
it.?
Regards,
Jon
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
read here two guys pointing out best of best
Ray
You didn't mention........no gear box ,no oil cooler, running at 2x the
rpms, more gas all is more weight , not to mention 76 hose connections to
support the systems, then there is the 100's of updated rotax issuses. I
am sure I missed some pluses also , and we all realize ,each has his own
thoughts
Love the combo T & J
Dave
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
?
I love my Tornado, especially with the Jabiru.? I believe they are a
perfect match.? The Jab only burns about 3gph, no oil mixing, no
radiator,? runs very strong.? I have worked on both my Jabirus
and they are great for the wrench head with some experience who wants to
save bundles doing his own work.? The work I did was a re-ring job
on both engines due to cylinder corrosion from improper storage and lack
of use.? You have to run them or at least turn the prop every
week.
My T-II is a great handling plane, can turn on a dime, climbs great, and
is very forgiving of crappy landings.? Only downside is they are
very pitch sensitive and can scare the crapola out of you on landing if
you have not flown one before.
I had the engine quit due to a previous owner using silicone in the fuel
tank and landed in a VERY muddy farm field and the plane was completely
undamaged, except for needing a thourough cleaning.
?I built my T-S because I got a great deal and wanted the extra room
and the bells and whistles that came with it.
The only thing I do not like is the tandem seating, because I think
passengers are more at ease when next to you.
Ray Henrie T-II 9079R T-S 1776E
4TN9
?
I've had a standard on a 582 for 4 years and have very much enjoyed it.
Very stable and a great climber. A bit frustrated in a headwind now and
the 2 stroke limitations on distance. Has anyone advice for me on
converting it to a Jabiru or 912? Is it worth it or a waste of time and
effort?
Gwyn
On 26/03/2015 09:29,
avia1or01@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:
?
I've been flying a 912 Falcon for a year and am loving it.
When buying I was advised that the flaps are a waste of time and I should
get a standard, however when a 912 Falcon came on the market I had to
have it.
Supposedly ? the F is slightly faster but if you want fast this is
completely the wrong plane as both tootle along at 50 to 60
knots.
I have never used the flaps, there seems to be no point in them. It leaps
of the ground like an excited puppy so I don't need them for take off and
it lands in a very short space so I don't need them for landing. ? I
guess they would be handy if I was trying to do an emergency landing in
somebodies garden.
If I was buying I would ignore whether its an Falcon or a standard and
concentrate on more important things such as the engine and condition.
Either aircraft is a fantastic machine, very safe and predictable. They
are als o by aeroplane standards very easy and cheap to maintain. I
bought the whole aircraft for less than our group Cessna cost for its
annual.
Do take a test flight and get the aircraft checked over before buying
it.?
Regards,
Jon
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
I've had a standard on a 582 for 4 years and have very much enjoyed
it. Very stable and a great climber. A bit frustrated in a headwind
now and the 2 stroke limitations on distance. Has anyone advice for
me on converting it to a Jabiru or 912? Is it worth it or a waste of
time and effort?
Gwyn
On 26/03/2015 09:29,
avia1or01@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:
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Show quoted text
?
I've been flying a 912 Falcon for a year and am loving
it.
When buying I was advised that the flaps are a waste of
time and I should get a standard, however when a 912
Falcon came on the market I had to have it.
Supposedly ?the F is slightly faster but if you want
fast this is completely the wrong plane as both tootle
along at 50 to 60 knots.
I have never used the flaps, there seems to be no point
in them. It leaps of the ground like an excited puppy so I
don't need them for take off and it lands in a very short
space so I don't need them for landing. ?I guess they
would be handy if I was trying to do an emergency landing
in somebodies garden.
If I was buying I would ignore whether its an Falcon or
a standard and concentrate on more important things such
as the engine and condition. Either aircraft is a
fantastic machine, very safe and predictable. They are als
o by aeroplane standards very easy and cheap to maintain.
I bought the whole aircraft for less than our group Cessna
cost for its annual.
Do take a test flight and get the aircraft checked over
before buying it.?
Regards,
Jon
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Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
I've been flying a 912 Falcon for a year and am loving it.
When buying I was advised that the flaps are a waste of time and I should get a standard, however when a 912 Falcon came on the market I had to have it.
Supposedly ?the F is slightly faster but if you want fast this is completely the wrong plane as both tootle along at 50 to 60 knots.
I have never used the flaps, there seems to be no point in them. It leaps of the ground like an excited puppy so I don't need them for take off and it lands in a very short space so I don't need them for landing. ?I guess they would be handy if I was trying to do an emergency landing in somebodies garden.
If I was buying I would ignore whether its an Falcon or a standard and concentrate on more important things such as the engine and condition. Either aircraft is a fantastic machine, very safe and predictable. They are also by aeroplane standards very easy and cheap to maintain. I bought the whole aircraft for less than our group Cessna cost for its annual.
Do take a test flight and get the aircraft checked over before buying it.?
Regards,
Jon
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
?
Falcon was name given to it in UK same as Hawk for H
model, just sounds a bit better than F model and H model.
Best part of the Falcon model was the tail section, the
best combo would be the Falcon tail and the Standard wing which is far superior.
I have never?been a fan of?the falcon aileron
system, it is a very bad design?and in a steep turn at low speed with full
flap, it falls out of the sky, not that you should be in this attitude, but
there is no attitude you can get into with the standard Xair that will bite
you.
?
Seamus
?
?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:54
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Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
?
The "F" model, (still wondering why someone decided to call it a Falcon)
as the "F" designates flaps, is a good plane but in my opinion,?would
not?need flaps if it had the same wing as the Standard. My opinion is the
designer wanted more speed, shortened the wings a bit, got it, but gained take
off length as well as landing length. Probably you're good in the used market
either way but again, in my opinion, new, 1600 more?US dollars at the
time, an absolute waste of $. John@ ?
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In a message dated 3/25/2015 7:56:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@... writes:
?
No experience with the Falcon but the STD is great!
Bob
?
Im just about to place a deposit on a Falcon, however I would
appreciate every bodys thoughts on both aircraft.
Thanks
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
Scott Soper and Teresa O'Kane
X-Airs are French designed, but made in India. The flaps were added in the hopes of making it a suitable entry trainer for the Indian Air Force.?
Very few have been built compared to the Standard.
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The "F" model, (still wondering why someone decided to call it a Falcon) as
the "F" designates flaps, is a good plane but in my opinion,?would
not?need flaps if it had the same wing as the Standard. My opinion is the
designer wanted more speed, shortened the wings a bit, got it, but gained take
off length as well as landing length. Probably you're good in the used market
either way but again, in my opinion, new, 1600 more?US dollars at the time,
an absolute waste of $. John@ ?
?
?
No experience with the Falcon but the STD is great!
Bob
?
Im just about to place a deposit on a Falcon, however I would appreciate
every bodys thoughts on both aircraft.
Thanks
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
The "F" model, (still wondering why someone decided to call it a Falcon) as
the "F" designates flaps, is a good plane but in my opinion,?would
not?need flaps if it had the same wing as the Standard. My opinion is the
designer wanted more speed, shortened the wings a bit, got it, but gained take
off length as well as landing length. Probably you're good in the used market
either way but again, in my opinion, new, 1600 more?US dollars at the time,
an absolute waste of $. John@ ?
?
In a message dated 3/25/2015 7:56:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@... writes:
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?
No experience with the Falcon but the STD is great!
Bob
?
Im just about to place a deposit on a Falcon, however I would appreciate
every bodys thoughts on both aircraft.
Thanks
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Leading edge foam inserts
EPP
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-------- Original message -------- From: "'Seamus O'Donnell' etronics@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]" Date:03/25/2015 2:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@... Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Leading edge foam inserts
?
?
The foam insert for the leading edge is made from a
material called EPP, same as used in the better quality packaging you get with
electrical equipment like TV's etc.
Also used for model aeroplanes
There are different grades and density's
available.
?
Seamus
?
?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:00
PM
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft
Leading edge foam inserts
?
Hi flyers!
I am gathering materials to
build an EAB Weedhopper *like* aircraft with some similarities to the
X-Air.
(An X-Air won't fit in my
budget or hangar shed....)
But I would like to know what
the material used for the Leading Edge sleeve stiffener is?
A description as far as
thickness and density of what I should ask for would be of some considerable
help.
I have used Reflectix brand
mylar bubble wrap type insulation on a previous wing because of it's light
weight and stiffness,
?but it still is a bit
flexible. The heavy gauge Mylar used on hang gliders ?and trike wings is
a bit expensive too!
Thanks in advance!
Jackye Reynolds
Raleigh, NC
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Leading edge foam inserts
Thanks Seamus. ?EEP
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-------- Original message -------- From: "'Seamus O'Donnell' etronics@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]" Date:03/25/2015 2:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@... Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Leading edge foam inserts
?
?
The foam insert for the leading edge is made from a
material called EPP, same as used in the better quality packaging you get with
electrical equipment like TV's etc.
Also used for model aeroplanes
There are different grades and density's
available.
?
Seamus
?
?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:00
PM
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft
Leading edge foam inserts
?
Hi flyers!
I am gathering materials to
build an EAB Weedhopper *like* aircraft with some similarities to the
X-Air.
(An X-Air won't fit in my
budget or hangar shed....)
But I would like to know what
the material used for the Leading Edge sleeve stiffener is?
A description as far as
thickness and density of what I should ask for would be of some considerable
help.
I have used Reflectix brand
mylar bubble wrap type insulation on a previous wing because of it's light
weight and stiffness,
?but it still is a bit
flexible. The heavy gauge Mylar used on hang gliders ?and trike wings is
a bit expensive too!
Thanks in advance!
Jackye Reynolds
Raleigh, NC
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Leading edge foam inserts
?
The foam insert for the leading edge is made from a
material called EPP, same as used in the better quality packaging you get with
electrical equipment like TV's etc.
Also used for model aeroplanes
There are different grades and density's
available.
?
Seamus
?
?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:00
PM
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft
Leading edge foam inserts
?
Hi flyers!
I am gathering materials to
build an EAB Weedhopper *like* aircraft with some similarities to the
X-Air.
(An X-Air won't fit in my
budget or hangar shed....)
But I would like to know what
the material used for the Leading Edge sleeve stiffener is?
A description as far as
thickness and density of what I should ask for would be of some considerable
help.
I have used Reflectix brand
mylar bubble wrap type insulation on a previous wing because of it's light
weight and stiffness,
?but it still is a bit
flexible. The heavy gauge Mylar used on hang gliders ?and trike wings is
a bit expensive too!
Thanks in advance!
Jackye Reynolds
Raleigh, NC
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Leading edge foam inserts
Jackye
It appears you are cutting corners , not a good idesa from 10 ft and
beyond , maybe skip a couple McDees and spend wher it counts
dr
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Hi flyers!
I am gathering materials to build an EAB Weedhopper *like* aircraft with
some similarities to the X-Air.
(An X-Air won't fit in my budget or hangar shed....)
But I would like to know what the material used for the Leading Edge
sleeve stiffener is?
A description as far as thickness and density of what I should ask for
would be of some considerable help.
I have used Reflectix brand mylar bubble wrap type insulation on a
previous wing because of it's light weight and stiffness,
?but it still is a bit flexible. The heavy gauge Mylar used on hang
gliders and trike wings is a bit expensive too!
Thanks in advance!
Jackye Reynolds
Raleigh, NC
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Leading edge foam inserts
Hi flyers! I am gathering materials to build an EAB Weedhopper *like* aircraft with some similarities to the X-Air. (An X-Air won't fit in my budget or hangar shed....) But I would like to know what the material used for the Leading Edge sleeve stiffener is? A description as far as thickness and density of what I should ask for would be of some considerable help. I have used Reflectix brand mylar bubble wrap type insulation on a previous wing because of it's light weight and stiffness, ?but it still is a bit flexible. The heavy gauge Mylar used on hang gliders ?and trike wings is a bit expensive too! Thanks in advance! Jackye Reynolds Raleigh, NC
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
No experience with the Falcon but the STD is great!
Bob
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?
Im just about to place a deposit on a Falcon, however I
would appreciate every bodys thoughts on both aircraft.
Thanks
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!
STD are great little kite. |
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Im just about to place a deposit on a Falcon, however I would appreciate every bodys thoughts on both aircraft.
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Im just about to place a deposit on a Falcon, however I would appreciate every bodys thoughts on both aircraft. Thanks
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Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft cross stiffeners
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If you mean the aluminium disks they are required anywhere
the tubing intersects.
?
Seamus
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Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 1:34
PM
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft cross
stiffeners
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I was wondering if anyone know a little more than the manual shows
about where to place the longitudinal stiffeners for the rear faring . On the
drawing it shows them at D3E and D3D.Are they required at just these spots or
all intersecting points. Thanks Harry
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I was wondering if anyone know a little more than the manual shows about where to place the longitudinal stiffeners for the rear faring . On the drawing it shows them at D3E and D3D.Are they required at just these spots or all intersecting points. Thanks Harry
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John M.