Just as a secondary comment, be careful closing all of the gaps. In
one of the standard X-Air aircraft I had a customer in the early
2000's that closed all of the gaps and it ended up creating a
massive vacuum in the cabin area and somehow managed to pull in
exhaust fumes...?? from his story he was lucky to land and survive.
If you do this make sure you have a good carbon monoxide detector
Justin Gregoris wrote on 24/10/2021
3:52 am:
Thanks?for all the help Geoff.
I think the seller gave me new bungee cords, but at any rate, it
would be nice for you to see the plane in person so you can give
me all the tips for safe, fun and efficient flying.
Since I literally just got it and dont have many hours as a
pilot, id like to meet up however it may be with another
gentlemen and/or when i get more comfortable with this plane.
are you comfortable landing at mansfield? you are more than
welcome?to come and touch down there any time.?
there are two runways - north and south is 1400 feet and east
and west is 1800 feet.
when we landed the hanuman there yesterday on the north and
south runway, we used about 150 feet lol.
it would be nice to see you at some/any point.?
i am currently researching how to change my prop to a finer
setting; less bite and looking for ways to close all the air
gaps in the cockpit - although i dont know if closing all gaps
is a good idea since the summer time will feel like a sweat
shop....
i presume i will store the plane as the weather degrades -
probably for 4 months or so.
justin?
?
Wow - identical colour scheme as mine was. ?
?Fabric looks good in the photos. ? Just wash with water and
dish soap, then rinse. ? Be careful what you use on Mylar
fabric. ? ?Do you know about the landing gear bungees? ? ?Looks
like they could use some tightening. ?Inside looks great. ?Nice
instrument package. ??
Let’s meet up at Collingwood on a good day this month ….
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario?
?
Has turn and bank,
vsi, ASI, GPS, full intercom,? Sensenich ground
adjustable propeller, altimeter, and transponder. 140
hrs TT.??
What can I spray on
this fabric to clean it and take the dust off?
Justin
Send some photos inside and
out – would like to see it!
?
Agree it is drafty in the
winter – flow through air conditioning!
?
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
?
?
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?
?
C-IIFY safely landed at CPV4
Mansfield 1100hrs this morning. What a flight.
If we left 15 mins later from Tillsonburg,, we
potentially would have had to do an emergency
landing. Last 10km had bad weather. 1000'
ceiling. Rain. Black clouds. Nuts. But she's
safe and sound.
1.5hr flight 22knot headwind.
Glad we picked up it today since
the weather is highly unpredictable this time of
year. I was co-pilot flying with a
couple-thousand hour Dutch aviation veteran who
has flown over 40 aircraft; now 41.
I couldn't have done it without
him.
I may change the pitch on the
Sensenich propeller to less course for faster
take off.
Also have to figure out how to seal
the air leaks as the cold cold wind gets through
the cock pit!
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Did you pick up the
plane?
?
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I would suggest doing
several circuits at Tillsonburg on runway
08/26 (nice and long) practicing short field
and soft field takeoffs and landings ,
before you tackle your home field. ??
All the best
on Friday. ? Hope the weather cooperates.
?
?
Let's hope Friday
morning goes well.
I presume it will be
about 1 hour and 15 minute flight.
I think from
Tillsonburg airport, we will have
to try and zig zag, to miss/pass
guelph, kitchener, hamilton
area(s) and then head
north-north-east towards CPV4.
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Maybe
Collingwood for coffee. ? ?
?
CPV4 -
Mansfield Aerodrome, Ontario
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Where
are you keeping the plane?
?
yes sir. it has a transponder
indeed.
regardless, we will figure it out.
wish me good luck. my mission is
to drive from my place
2.1hrs via car to
where my partner and i
will check the plane,
do a run up and off we
go. friday looks like
the only good day in
the next 10 days to
make the voyage.
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Sure.
? ? We could connect at
Guelph Airpark sometime-
unless you have a
transponder…?
?
Maybe one
day next warm
season I can
come see you in
person with the
Hanuman!?
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I flew out of Guelph - paved runways and
snow clearing. ?
?I have heard of
XAirs on skis
((out in Winnipeg)
so it’s not
impossible. ??
?
Did
you use winter
skiis or
always have
tires even in
the winter?
I fly off
grass so if
there is snow,
I don't I'll
be able to
take off and
touch down on
the grass.
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I
flew my XAir
year round so
no experience
with
preservatives
etc. ? ?I
turned my prop
over several
times as part
of each pre
start
checklist. ?
AMEs
and engine
manufacturers
recommend
minimum of one
hour flying
per week at
normal
operating
temps for best
engine health.
?
Running
engine on
ground for 10
min every so
often does
more harm than
good -
promoting
condensation,
moisture
buildup and
corrosion. ??
Cheers. ?
?
I
ended up
buying the
2009 X air
Hanuman with
the 2nd
generation
Jabiru 2200
with 139hrs.
I
did a leakdown
test and all
cylinders read
the same. I
put 80psi in
and the result
was 76psi. I
guess that's
pretty good.
I
got a little
air passing
through to the
crankcase vent
but I think it
was because
the rings were
starting to
contract since
we didn't do
the test when
it was really
hot.
My
intent was to
perform the
test
immediately
after a
45minute
flight but
then we saw
some other
rans s-7s and
starting
talking to the
owners, so the
temperature
dropped to
about warm, if
that and not
hot.
I
feel more
confident with
this jabiru
motor now.
I
should turn
the propeller
by hand in its
regular
direction to
move oil to
higher
locations
within the
combustion
chamber prior
to starting it
when it's cold
outside or any
time the
engine has not
been started
for more than
one week?
During
cold
wintertime
when I am not
flying for
about 3-4
months, I
should turn
the propeller
every 10 days
?
Some
say don't
touch anything
during storage
because by
turning prop
by hand will
end up
scuffing
cylinder
walls, or
should I do
it?
Also,
if I don't fly
for 3-4 months
during cold
wintertime, I
spray LPS
lubricant into
all cylinders
then put plugs
back?
Then
change oil in
the spring
once I start
flying again?
With
the Sensenich
ground
adjustable
prop on a
heavier than
normal pitch
setting, the
plane took off
in no time
with two full
grown
gentlemen.
Lastly,
any tips on
how to cut and
align and
mount the
propeller
spinner, to
finish off the
aesthetics at
the front?
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The
gentleman who
had his
Hanuman with
3/4 tank fuel
and two adults
also had a
ground
adjustable
prop and oil
cooler.put on
his Jabiru
2200.
Everything
else was bone
stock and
simply
followed
manufacturers
maintenance
specifications.
I'll try to
ask more about
tomorrow when
I see him.
Now
onto other
tips - engine
leak down
test: what is
the best way
to do this?
Fly
the plane for
about 30mins
or so, land
and then take
one plug
out,turn the
prop by hand
and start the
process of
dumping air
inside the
cylinder,
using the
double dial
air regulator?
I think
the manual
calls for
anything less
than 60psi,
from the
initial 80psi
to begin with
is a fail...?
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When you have an aircraft flying on floats
you want to
get the best
possible power
to weight
ratio so you
can get off
the water
quickly. The
Rotax does a
good job with
this because
of its geared
high revving
engine, the
Jabiru is very
slow to excel
in rate by
comparison and
the climb rate
is
significantly
slower. All of
this goes
against the
airframe
powered by a
Jabiru being
totally
suitable for
floats. Sure,
it is probably
going to work
but you are
placing the
aircraft and
occupants at a
higher risk if
it takes a
thousand
metres to get
off the water
whereas
normally it
would take 300
m as an
example/comparison
Justin
Gregoris wrote
on 17/10/2021
8:08 pm:
Have
you flow a
hanuman with
Jabiru 2200 on
floats?
Wondering
why this would
be a disaster?
I've
spoke to
a.couple
people with
this set up
and they had
nothing bad to
say about it.?
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Hello Richard, I agree with your statement
in the final
sentence. The
Jabiru is not
the correct
choice of
engine for the
Hanuman
airframe. The
Rotax 912 in
80 hp
configuration
runs rings
around the
same aircraft
with a Jabiru.
Completely
forgetting the
debate about
reliability,
the Rotax gets
off in almost
half the
distance, it
climbs 300 to
400 feet
faster every
minute and it
uses less fuel
at a higher
cruise
speed.....?
Using a Jabiru
on a float
version of the
Hanuman would
be a disaster
in my opinion.
Richard
Stubbs wrote
on 17/10/2021
4:15 pm:
Hi
All
?
These
Jabiru motors
are a bit of
an enigma.
Some seem to
last well,
others just
don’t! There’s
always been
this debate
with them as
to what fuel
to use, all
100 octane
Avgas, 95
octane / Avgas
mix……? Quite
honestly who
knows at this
point? When
you have an
engine that
sometimes may
go the
distance
while? others
fail early
everyone
becomes an
expert on
either how
best to
operate them
properly to
last or ‘now
we know’ what
the problems
are!
?
In
my opinion
whether you
like them or
not the Jabiru
85hp 2200 is a
road runner
without a
reduction
drive as per
the Rotax 582
or 912 series
engines. At
all up weight
when you are
hot and high
‘watch out’! ?
?
Given
that the
Hanuman is
supposed to be
a STOL type
microlight/LSA
the question
is then ‘Is
this the right
engine to
begin with’?
Certainly not
on this
airframe I
feel.
?
BR
Richard
?
??
?
?
My Jabiru 2200 had over 600 hours on it
when I sold my
XAir and the
engine was
running
flawlessly. ?
? I maintained
and operated
it as per
Jabiru
maintenance
requirements.
? ?Cowling had
good cooling
design and
never had any
issue with
CHT…….
?
It's
also important
to note the
aircraft that
are in fact
being run with
the Jabiru
2200.
That
influences the
performance,
if the overall
engineering
has/had flaws.
I.e., the
cowling is
different on
each aircraft
- higher vs
lower
temperatures,
etc.
Also,
lead in the
AvGas is said
to aid in
lubricity and
ultimately
lower
temperatures,
versus Jabiru
2200s that end
up either
mixing or
using 91 or 93
MoGas.
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I would like to agree with this because it
would be very
comforting but
how do you
explain all of
the failures
in Jabiru
aircraft built
by the
factory. They
know what
they're doing
after building
many for 30
years and they
still have
failures.
It sounds like
I am Jabiru
bashing but I
am not, it is
just a fact
that we have
seen by the
few operators
at our
airfield, all
with Jabiru
engines in
Jabiru
aircraft.
The Jabiru
factory
demonstrator
flew from
Bundaberg and
was heading
south with a
brand-new
engine with
all of the
latest
modifications
and it failed
and had to
land at our
airfield, this
was the latest
generation
whizbang
everything and
in about 8
hours running
time the heads
were shot and
there were
Scuffing marks
On the bore of
2 of the
cylinders....
This was about
12 months ago.
Mo
Davies via
groups.io
wrote on
16/10/2021
7:11 pm:
From
my experience,
the
reliability of
any Jab engine
is more
affected by
the quality of
its
installation
than any other
factor. ?If
sufficient
care has been
taken to get
it right, they
run. ?If
cooling, for
instance, is
not properly
achieved, they
fail with
monotonous
regularity.
?
On 15 Oct 2021, at 00:36, Clive Cunningham
<kmmotor@...> wrote:
?
Chaps,
the comments
about the
Jabiru were
not from me!?
I own a
2200, I am an
Aussie, and I
stand by them.
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Clive
Cunningham
K&M
HD Motorcycles
10
Deacon Ave
Richmond
SA
5033
Ph.
+618 8234 1090
kmmotor@...
kmmotorcycles.com.au
?
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Hi Justin
I would not
take the
comments from
Clive
regarding the
Jabiru engine
seriosly.
I have a good
experince with
my jabiru 2200
and I know
that 4 of my
friends which
have those
engine also
are happy with
this engine.
Rotax are fine
engine but
there are lots
of additional
combonents to
look after and
maintain. If
you plan to
replace to
rotax then
stay with the
80hp. The 212
and 14 are
more
problematic
than 80 hp.
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Sent: Thu, 14
Oct 2021
20:53:14 -0000
(GMT)
Efni: Re:
[XAIR] Testing
fuel for
Ethanol
Justin
Gregoris wrote
on 14/10/2021
9:44 pm:
> Many
thanks for the
reply.
>
> Some more
questions
about the
Hanuman:
>
> - how
long will it
take with two
adults and
full fuel with
puddle
> jumper
amphibious
floats to get
off the water?
not sure
because I have
> not flown
with the
floats
>
> - same
situation, but
how long will
it take to off
on grass? the
Rotax
> engine
about 80 m,
the Jabiru
engine almost
200 m
>
> - same
situation, how
long to land
on water?
>
> - same
situation, how
long to land
of grass?
mostly depends
on the
> skill of
the pilot
>
> - what is
the worst part
about the
Jabiru 2200
engines? the
>
reliability,
the oil leaks,
the fact that
most don't go
past 400 hours
> before
failure and
they simply
don't perform
all that well
on the
> aircraft
compared to
the Rotax
>
> - any
fixes for the
above
issue(s)?
replace it
with the Rotax
>
> - any
modifications
to get better
results with
the Jabiru
2200? yes,
> sell it
and replace it
with the
Rotax.
Honestly, they
are just not a
> good fit
and they just
don't go long
enough to be
classified as
> anywhere
near reliable.
Please look at
the aviation
advertisements
for
> Jabiru
aircraft and
you will see
dozens of
advertisements
or with a
> similar
story, Jabiru
600 hours
engine 200
hours and so
on. They quite
> proudly
advertise they
have done a
new top end
and everything
else
> when they
are selling
the aircraft
but if you buy
a Rotax 99
times out
> of 100
you don't have
the same
problems
>
> Thanks
again, Justin
>
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> *From:* [email protected]
<[email protected]> on behalf of Clive Cunningham
> <kmmotor@...>
> *Sent:*
Monday,
October 11,
2021 3:25:45
AM
> *To:* [email protected]
<[email protected]>
>
*Subject:* Re:
[XAIR] Testing
fuel for
Ethanol
> I
enquired with
the
manufacturer
of "STABIL"
fuel
stabiliser for
long
> term
storage, about
aviation use.
> The
answer was "
No, for legal
reasons". Make
of that what
you will!
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Clive
Cunningham
>
> K&M
HD Motorcycles
>
> 10 Deacon
Ave
>
> Richmond
>
> SA 5033
>
> Ph. +618
8234 1090
>
> kmmotor@...
>
>
kmmotorcycles.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* [email protected]
<[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Coates
> <mcoates@...>
> *Sent:*
Sunday,
October 10,
2021 9:40 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
<[email protected]>
>
*Subject:* Re:
[XAIR] Testing
fuel for
Ethanol
> You can
also test with
this tester
>
>
> <>
>
> Mo Davies
via groups.io
wrote on
10/10/2021
1:02 am:
>> Put a
measured
amount of
water into a
suitable glass
vessel. A
>>
graduated test
tube is ideal
for this. Mark
the top of the
water on
>> the
glass vessel.
Put in an
equal amount
of Avgas.
Stopper and
shake
>> well.
A thumb would
work on a test
tube, although
I do not
advocate
>> using
the thumb in
direct contact
with petrol.
>> Check
the water
level again.
Ethanol, being
hygroscopic,
will mix
>> with
the water, the
level
difference
being
commensurate
with the
>>
percentage of
ethanol in the
fuel.
?Presumably it
is possible in
this
>> way
to remove the
ethanol, but
there are
risks involved
with
>>
?processing“
fuel in this
way.
>> Mo.
>>
>>>
On 8 Oct 2021,
at 11:16, jgregoris789@...
>>>
<mailto:jgregoris789@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?I am not aware of this test - how does it work
and what do I
need
>>>
to buy to
complete this?
>>>
>>> I
am not
particularly
concerned with
ethanol
content, but
rather
>>>
detonation
differences
between using
MoGas shell 91
or 93 versus
>>>
paying 40% for
AvGas that is
nowhere near
me. I would
have to drive
>>>
40km in a
different
direction,
only to fill
5, 20litre
Cana if
>>>
AvGas, then
drive back to
the grass
field and put
it in the
Hanuman.
>>>
From a
liability
point of view,
it is not
surprising how
Jabiru does
>>>
not cover or
advise MoGas
to be used -
not even any
additives,
which
>>>
is another
topic is like
to introduce.
Why can't I
purchase good
>>>
quality shell
91 or 93
MoGas, and
then add good
quality octane
>>>
booster with
an additional
dose of
seafoam, to
preserve the
fuel as
>>>
it may sit for
a couple
weeks?
>>>
>>> I
have used many
small and big
motors, two
stroke and
four stroke
>>>
gasoline and
Diesel
engines, but
never airplane
motors.
>>>
>>>
Is there
really a
difference -
am I missing
something or
is it the
>>>
liability
disclaimers
that have me
all caught up
in a knot?
>>>
>>>
In essence, I
don't see how
any problems
would arise,
knowing these
>>>
Jabiru 2200
motors are
about 8.1:1
compression
ratio, using
91 or 93
>>>
shell MoGas,
with seafoam
additive to
preserve and
offer some
better
>>>
lubricity?
>>>
>>>
Justin
>
> --
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PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017
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With regards,
Michael Coates
Pipistrel
Aircraft
Master
Distributor
for USA,
Australia
& New
Zealand
AU
+61 7 5522
0583
USA +1 213 984
1237
Slovenia +386
3041 6470
Email:
info@...
Web:
Skype:
xcomavionics
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Pipistrel
Aircraft -
Dealer of the
year 2012
Winner of the
EAA August
Raspet Award
2012
Pipistrel
Aircraft -
Dealer of the
year 2017
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With regards,
Michael Coates
Pipistrel
Aircraft
Master
Distributor
for USA,
Australia
& New
Zealand
AU
+61 7 5522
0583
USA +1 213 984
1237
Slovenia +386
3041 6470
Email:
info@...
Web:
Skype:
xcomavionics
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Pipistrel
Aircraft -
Dealer of the
year 2012
Winner of the
EAA August
Raspet Award
2012
Pipistrel
Aircraft -
Dealer of the
year 2017
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With regards, Michael Coates
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017
mailto:mcoates@...
skype name: xcomavionics
Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are
done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process.
Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually
do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick
proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake
gets through.
Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential
and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed.
No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this
information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been
sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message.
"Amateurs practice till they get it right;
Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong."
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