good catch michael!
many thanks?- i will pay attention to that as i decide what to do.
if i close gaps during the cold, it will cause a hotter cabin in the summer months so i have to consider all flying conditions.
i will also install at least 2 carbon monoxide detectors
justin
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Just as a secondary comment, be careful closing all of the gaps. In one of the standard X-Air aircraft I had a customer in the early 2000's that closed all of the gaps and it ended up creating a massive vacuum in the cabin area and somehow managed to pull
in exhaust fumes...?? from his story he was lucky to land and survive. If you do this make sure you have a good carbon monoxide detector
Justin Gregoris wrote on 24/10/2021 3:52 am:
Thanks?for all the help Geoff.
I think the seller gave me new bungee cords, but at any rate, it would be nice for you to see the plane in person so you can give me all the tips for safe, fun and efficient flying.
Since I literally just got it and dont have many hours as a pilot, id like to meet up however it may be with another gentlemen and/or when i get more comfortable with this plane.
are you comfortable landing at mansfield? you are more than welcome?to come and touch down there any time.?
there are two runways - north and south is 1400 feet and east and west is 1800 feet.
when we landed the hanuman there yesterday on the north and south runway, we used about 150 feet lol.
it would be nice to see you at some/any point.?
i am currently researching how to change my prop to a finer setting; less bite and looking for ways to close all the air gaps in the cockpit - although i dont know if closing all gaps is a good idea since the summer time will feel like a sweat shop....
i presume i will store the plane as the weather degrades - probably for 4 months or so.
justin?
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Wow - identical colour scheme as mine was. ? ?Fabric looks good in the photos. ? Just wash with water and dish soap, then rinse. ? Be careful what you use on Mylar fabric. ? ?Do you know about the landing gear bungees? ? ?Looks like they could
use some tightening. ?Inside looks great. ?Nice instrument package. ??
Let’s meet up at Collingwood on a good day this month ….
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Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario?
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Has turn and bank, vsi, ASI, GPS, full intercom,? Sensenich ground adjustable propeller, altimeter, and transponder. 140 hrs TT.??
What can I spray on this fabric to clean it and take the dust off?
Justin
Send some photos inside and out – would like to see it!
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Agree it is drafty in the winter – flow through air conditioning!
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C-IIFY safely landed at CPV4 Mansfield 1100hrs this morning. What a flight. If we left 15 mins later from Tillsonburg,, we potentially would have
had to do an emergency landing. Last 10km had bad weather. 1000' ceiling. Rain. Black clouds. Nuts. But she's safe and sound.
1.5hr flight 22knot headwind.
Glad we picked up it today since the weather is highly unpredictable this time of year. I was co-pilot flying with a couple-thousand hour Dutch
aviation veteran who has flown over 40 aircraft; now 41.
I couldn't have done it without him.
I may change the pitch on the Sensenich propeller to less course for faster take off.
Also have to figure out how to seal the air leaks as the cold cold wind gets through the cock pit!
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I would suggest doing several circuits at Tillsonburg on runway 08/26 (nice and long) practicing short field and soft field takeoffs and landings , before you tackle your home field. ??
All the best on Friday. ? Hope the weather cooperates. ?
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Let's hope Friday morning goes well.
I presume it will be about 1 hour and 15 minute flight.
I think from Tillsonburg airport, we will have to try and zig zag, to miss/pass guelph, kitchener, hamilton area(s) and then head north-north-east towards CPV4.
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Maybe Collingwood for coffee. ? ?
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CPV4 - Mansfield Aerodrome, Ontario
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Where are you keeping the plane?
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yes sir. it has a transponder indeed.
regardless, we will figure it out.
wish me good luck. my mission is to drive from my place 2.1hrs via car to where my partner and i will check the plane, do a run up and off we go. friday looks like the only good day in the
next 10 days to make the voyage.
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Sure. ? ? We could connect at Guelph Airpark sometime- unless you have a transponder…?
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Maybe one day next warm season I can come see you in person with the Hanuman!?
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I flew out of Guelph - paved runways and snow clearing. ? ?I have heard of XAirs on skis ((out in Winnipeg) so it’s not impossible. ??
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Did you use winter skiis or always have tires even in the winter?
I fly off grass so if there is snow, I don't I'll be able to take off and touch down on the grass.
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I flew my XAir year round so no experience with preservatives etc. ? ?I turned my prop over several times as part of each pre start checklist. ?
AMEs and engine manufacturers recommend minimum of one hour flying per week at normal operating temps for best engine health. ?
Running engine on ground for 10 min every so often does more harm than good - promoting condensation, moisture buildup and corrosion. ??
Cheers. ?
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I ended up buying the 2009 X air Hanuman with the 2nd generation Jabiru 2200 with 139hrs.
I did a leakdown test and all cylinders read the same. I put 80psi in and the result was 76psi. I guess that's pretty good.
I got a little air passing through to the crankcase vent but I think it was because the rings were starting to contract since we didn't do the
test when it was really hot.
My intent was to perform the test immediately after a 45minute flight but then we saw some other rans s-7s and starting talking to the owners,
so the temperature dropped to about warm, if that and not hot.
I feel more confident with this jabiru motor now.
I should turn the propeller by hand in its regular direction to move oil to higher locations within the combustion chamber prior to starting it
when it's cold outside or any time the engine has not been started for more than one week?
During cold wintertime when I am not flying for about 3-4 months, I should turn the propeller every 10 days ?
Some say don't touch anything during storage because by turning prop by hand will end up scuffing cylinder walls, or should I do it?
Also, if I don't fly for 3-4 months during cold wintertime, I spray LPS lubricant into all cylinders then put plugs back?
Then change oil in the spring once I start flying again?
With the Sensenich ground adjustable prop on a heavier than normal pitch setting, the plane took off in no time with two full grown gentlemen.
Lastly, any tips on how to cut and align and mount the propeller spinner, to finish off the aesthetics at the front?
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The gentleman who had his Hanuman with 3/4 tank fuel and two adults also had a ground adjustable prop and oil cooler.put on his Jabiru 2200. Everything
else was bone stock and simply followed manufacturers maintenance specifications. I'll try to ask more about tomorrow when I see him.
Now onto other tips - engine leak down test: what is the best way to do this?
Fly the plane for about 30mins or so, land and then take one plug out,turn the prop by hand and start the process of dumping air inside the cylinder,
using the double dial air regulator?
I think the manual calls for anything less than 60psi, from the initial 80psi to begin with is a fail...?
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When you have an aircraft flying on floats you want to get the best possible power to weight ratio so you can get off the water quickly. The Rotax does a good job with this because of its geared high revving
engine, the Jabiru is very slow to excel in rate by comparison and the climb rate is significantly slower. All of this goes against the airframe powered by a Jabiru being totally suitable for floats. Sure, it is probably going to work but you are placing the
aircraft and occupants at a higher risk if it takes a thousand metres to get off the water whereas normally it would take 300 m as an example/comparison
Justin Gregoris wrote on 17/10/2021 8:08 pm:
Have you flow a hanuman with Jabiru 2200 on floats?
Wondering why this would be a disaster?
I've spoke to a.couple people with this set up and they had nothing bad to say about it.?
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Hello Richard, I agree with your statement in the final sentence. The Jabiru is not the correct choice of engine for the Hanuman airframe. The Rotax 912 in 80 hp configuration runs rings around the same
aircraft with a Jabiru.
Completely forgetting the debate about reliability, the Rotax gets off in almost half the distance, it climbs 300 to 400 feet faster every minute and it uses less fuel at a higher cruise speed.....? Using a Jabiru on a float version of the Hanuman would be
a disaster in my opinion.
Richard Stubbs wrote on 17/10/2021 4:15 pm:
Hi All
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These Jabiru motors are a bit of an enigma. Some seem to last well, others just don’t! There’s always been this debate with them as to what
fuel to use, all 100 octane Avgas, 95 octane / Avgas mix……? Quite honestly who knows at this point? When you have an engine that sometimes may go the distance while? others fail early everyone becomes an expert on either how best to operate them properly to
last or ‘now we know’ what the problems are!
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In my opinion whether you like them or not the Jabiru 85hp 2200 is a road runner without a reduction drive as per the Rotax 582 or 912 series
engines. At all up weight when you are hot and high ‘watch out’! ?
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Given that the Hanuman is supposed to be a STOL type microlight/LSA the question is then ‘Is this the right engine to begin with’? Certainly
not on this airframe I feel.
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BR
Richard
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My Jabiru 2200 had over 600 hours on it when I sold my XAir and the engine was running flawlessly. ? ? I maintained and operated it as per Jabiru maintenance requirements. ? ?Cowling had good
cooling design and never had any issue with CHT…….
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It's also important to note the aircraft that are in fact being run with the Jabiru 2200.
That influences the performance, if the overall engineering has/had flaws. I.e., the cowling is different on each aircraft
- higher vs lower temperatures, etc.
Also, lead in the AvGas is said to aid in lubricity and ultimately lower temperatures, versus Jabiru 2200s that end up either mixing or using 91
or 93 MoGas.
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I would like to agree with this because it would be very comforting but how do you explain all of the failures in Jabiru aircraft built by the factory. They know what they're doing after building
many for 30 years and they still have failures.
It sounds like I am Jabiru bashing but I am not, it is just a fact that we have seen by the few operators at our airfield, all with Jabiru engines in Jabiru aircraft.
The Jabiru factory demonstrator flew from Bundaberg and was heading south with a brand-new engine with all of the latest modifications and it failed and had to land at our airfield, this was the latest generation whizbang everything and in about 8 hours running
time the heads were shot and there were Scuffing marks On the bore of 2 of the cylinders....
This was about 12 months ago.
Mo Davies via groups.io wrote on 16/10/2021 7:11 pm:
From my experience, the reliability of any Jab engine is more affected by the quality of its installation than any other factor. ?If sufficient care has been taken to get it right, they run. ?If cooling, for instance, is
not properly achieved, they fail with monotonous regularity.
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On 15 Oct 2021, at 00:36, Clive Cunningham
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Chaps, the comments about the Jabiru were not from me!?
I own a 2200, I am an Aussie, and I stand by them.
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Hi Justin
I would not take the comments from Clive regarding the Jabiru engine seriosly.
I have a good experince with my jabiru 2200 and I know that 4 of my friends which have those engine also are happy with this engine. Rotax are fine engine but there are lots of additional combonents to look after and maintain. If you plan to replace to rotax
then stay with the 80hp. The 212 and 14 are more problematic than 80 hp.
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Justin Gregoris wrote on 14/10/2021 9:44 pm:
> Many thanks for the reply.
>
> Some more questions about the Hanuman:
>
> - how long will it take with two adults and full fuel with puddle
> jumper amphibious floats to get off the water? not sure because I have
> not flown with the floats
>
> - same situation, but how long will it take to off on grass? the Rotax
> engine about 80 m, the Jabiru engine almost 200 m
>
> - same situation, how long to land on water?
>
> - same situation, how long to land of grass? mostly depends on the
> skill of the pilot
>
> - what is the worst part about the Jabiru 2200 engines? the
> reliability, the oil leaks, the fact that most don't go past 400 hours
> before failure and they simply don't perform all that well on the
> aircraft compared to the Rotax
>
> - any fixes for the above issue(s)? replace it with the Rotax
>
> - any modifications to get better results with the Jabiru 2200? yes,
> sell it and replace it with the Rotax. Honestly, they are just not a
> good fit and they just don't go long enough to be classified as
> anywhere near reliable. Please look at the aviation advertisements for
> Jabiru aircraft and you will see dozens of advertisements or with a
> similar story, Jabiru 600 hours engine 200 hours and so on. They quite
> proudly advertise they have done a new top end and everything else
> when they are selling the aircraft but if you buy a Rotax 99 times out
> of 100 you don't have the same problems
>
> Thanks again, Justin
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> *From:* [email protected]
<[email protected]> on behalf of Clive Cunningham
> <kmmotor@...>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 11, 2021 3:25:45 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
<[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [XAIR] Testing fuel for Ethanol
> I enquired with the manufacturer of "STABIL" fuel stabiliser for long
> term storage, about aviation use.
> The answer was " No, for legal reasons". Make of that what you will!
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> Clive Cunningham
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> *From:* [email protected]
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> *Sent:* Sunday, October 10, 2021 9:40 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
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> *Subject:* Re: [XAIR] Testing fuel for Ethanol
> You can also test with this tester
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> <>
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> Mo Davies via groups.io wrote on 10/10/2021 1:02 am:
>> Put a measured amount of water into a suitable glass vessel. A
>> graduated test tube is ideal for this. Mark the top of the water on
>> the glass vessel. Put in an equal amount of Avgas. Stopper and shake
>> well. A thumb would work on a test tube, although I do not advocate
>> using the thumb in direct contact with petrol.
>> Check the water level again. Ethanol, being hygroscopic, will mix
>> with the water, the level difference being commensurate with the
>> percentage of ethanol in the fuel. ?Presumably it is possible in this
>> way to remove the ethanol, but there are risks involved with
>> ?processing“ fuel in this way.
>> Mo.
>>
>>> On 8 Oct 2021, at 11:16,
jgregoris789@...
>>> <mailto:jgregoris789@...> wrote:
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>>> ?I am not aware of this test - how does it work and what do I need
>>> to buy to complete this?
>>>
>>> I am not particularly concerned with ethanol content, but rather
>>> detonation differences between using MoGas shell 91 or 93 versus
>>> paying 40% for AvGas that is nowhere near me. I would have to drive
>>> 40km in a different direction, only to fill 5, 20litre Cana if
>>> AvGas, then drive back to the grass field and put it in the Hanuman.
>>> From a liability point of view, it is not surprising how Jabiru does
>>> not cover or advise MoGas to be used - not even any additives, which
>>> is another topic is like to introduce. Why can't I purchase good
>>> quality shell 91 or 93 MoGas, and then add good quality octane
>>> booster with an additional dose of seafoam, to preserve the fuel as
>>> it may sit for a couple weeks?
>>>
>>> I have used many small and big motors, two stroke and four stroke
>>> gasoline and Diesel engines, but never airplane motors.
>>>
>>> Is there really a difference - am I missing something or is it the
>>> liability disclaimers that have me all caught up in a knot?
>>>
>>> In essence, I don't see how any problems would arise, knowing these
>>> Jabiru 2200 motors are about 8.1:1 compression ratio, using 91 or 93
>>> shell MoGas, with seafoam additive to preserve and offer some better
>>> lubricity?
>>>
>>> Justin
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