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Re: New and have two D9's
OR, to secure stitches at the ends, ....to begin, sew a few stitches, lift the foot and return the fabric to the beginning point, sewing over the first stitches? to finish, sew to the end, lift the foot and pull the fabric back about 1/4 inch and sew over the stitching.? Eliminates turning the fabric around.
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Re: New and have two D9's
Diana Burrow
The opposite wheel action is odd to me also, I have 2 Singers. With the D-9 not going backwards, I guess I could turn my work around and stitch over First stitches to secure the thread.? I'm still in the process of collecting parts. Hopefully I'll be able to sew a project soon On Oct 30, 2017 8:34 AM, "Tague, David" <tagued@...> wrote:
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New and have two D9's
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOne is a treadle and the other was a frozen free machine head.?? They are very similar in that the decals are all gone, they have similar era serial #¡¯s, and both came with exactly one bagel bobbin. ? I fabricated top tension spring out of a click pen spring, it sews well.?? I wonder if an E string off an octave mandolin set would be whippy and provide a better stitch??? Anyone else make one of these?? ? I also own several Singer machines, the opposite handwheel direction is a little odd for me. ? Thanks for adding me. ? Tague |
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Re: Bagel bobbins
Hi Diana; These machines are generally referred to loosely as simply 9W machines. How ever there were sub models listed by the following number. The 9W1 &? 9W7 were the most popular, though the sub? numbers went up through around 9W12. The 1 & 7 were listed as family along with 4 other numbers 2 in both the 1 & 7 series. These were either fitted for a hand attachment or fitted with it. All were listed for Export Only. The others were primarily considered as Tailoring machines, had knee lever for lifting presser foot etc. This info is from a 1908 with handwritten corrections to 1911 Singer/Bridgeport catalog. Miller/TN?? |
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Re: Bagel bobbins
Diana Burrow
Good to know!? I didn't know Singer made 9 W1 or 9W7. I just thought that after W&W, Singer called it 9W.? On Oct 28, 2017 11:02 AM, "Miller Fulks" <mmf38@...> wrote:
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Re: Bagel bobbins
Hi All; Note that only late 9W7's came with the flat bobbins. 9W1's as well as early 9W7's still used the same bagel bobbin as the W&W D-9.? 9W1 machines still wore W&W decals & fit W&W cabinets. These were made from 1905 to around 1908. The 9W7 was introduced in 1908? was made through 1913. The bed on these was modified to fit Singer cabinetry & they wore Singer decals. I do not know exactly at what point the bobbin change was made but likely only the last couple of ears of production. Miller/TN |
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Re: Intro
Wow, thanks! I appreciate the correction! I didn't mean to give bad information! Best regards, Hilde Best On Oct 27, 2017 2:13 PM, "Miller Fulks" <miller@...> wrote: Hi Hilde; |
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Re: Bagel bobbins
Diana Burrow
Thank u for your reply! On Oct 27, 2017 4:21 PM, <diquilts@...> wrote: The 9W uses Featherweight bobbins.? The D-9s use bagel bobbins. |
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Re: Bagel bobbins
The 9W uses Featherweight bobbins. The D-9s use bagel bobbins.
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Di in TN TN Treadler - TOGA Tart "Motor? I Don't Need No Stinkin' Motor!" On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:21 PM Diana Burrow <mygranna@...> wrote:Does anyone know if any other bobbin would fit the Wheeler & Wilson D-9? |
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Re: Intro
Hi Hilde;
First, the needle plate & throat plate are jus two different names for the same plate, which other screw do you need.I have nt measred the throat pate screw on the #8 so off hand do no kno is actual size, may??be a while before I am able to do so.. The Singer thread is not actually a #6-40 it is? 9/64-40. 9/64 = .1406" while a #6 screw = 0.138". They are so close they will often interchange, though depending upon tolerance the Singer screw will not always enter a #6-40 tapped hole. Miller/TN |
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Re: Bagel bobbins
My late Singer 9W7 uses the flat bobbin. The case & latch are both shaped differently to allow clearance? for the outer edge of the bobbin. A Singer 221 (FW) or 301 bobbin will work in these machines. Also I found some Brother bobbins on clearance when Hanckocks was closing so many of their stores which will work. Will have to look up the numbers. Actually I found two types, they had some numbers in common, but not all. One type already has a bit of a bagel shape but not as much as the W&W bobbins. I believe that by spinning them in a fixture on a lathe they could be given a pit more roll & be made to work in the D-9. The & 9 bobbin is actually a bit thinner than the D-9.? For identification the D-9 bobbin had a hole added in each side down near the hub. fyou go to the photo section of this site I have posted dimensions along with pictures & a description of all the W&W bobbins used in their family machines. There is also much info to be found in the files section. Miller/TN? ? |
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Re: Part interchange
Hi Hilde; Most of the attachments for the #8 interchange with the glass insert in the cleft foot. As I recall the tuck marker does attach to the bed by the bed screw. Miller/TN On Friday, October 27, 2017 7:13 AM, Hilde Whalley <Hilde.whalley@...> wrote: I'm looking for the screw that holds the needle plate down. Sorry, I don't know about any additional accessories other than presser feet (I have 1) so don't know how or where they might be held. Am new to this machine! Hilde On Oct 27, 2017 12:59 AM, "sustainability@..." <sustainability@...> wrote: ok, i know which plate now...? and what screw do you need?? the one that is used to hold the accessories in place? |
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Re: Part interchange
I'm looking for the screw that holds the needle plate down. Sorry, I don't know about any additional accessories other than presser feet (I have 1) so don't know how or where they might be held. Am new to this machine! Hilde On Oct 27, 2017 12:59 AM, "sustainability@..." <sustainability@...> wrote: ok, i know which plate now...? and what screw do you need?? the one that is used to hold the accessories in place? |
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Re: Bagel bobbins
Diana Burrow
Thank u for your reply.? On Oct 27, 2017 1:28 AM, "William L Vanderburg" <Army30th@...> wrote:
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Re: Bagel bobbins
William L Vanderburg
Wheeler & Wilson 9 and D-9 bobbins look like a bagel or donut. ? They are not manufactured today and there is no equivalent replacement.? On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:21 PM Diana Burrow <mygranna@...> wrote: Does anyone know if any other bobbin would fit the Wheeler & Wilson D-9?? I saw a picture of the Singer 9W which looks like a flat bobbin with several holes in it.? |
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Re: Part interchange
There are 3 plates below the needle. From left to right facing the machine,? the manual calls them the front slide plate, the needle plate and the back slide plate. The front slide plate covers the bobbin area. The back slide plate covers the inner workings, I think may be called the feed cams? Hilde On Oct 26, 2017 10:15 PM, "sustainability@..." <sustainability@...> wrote:
please explain.... what part is the 'back slide plate' on a no 8? |
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