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Re: Fork rebuilding...

 

Just saw this - don't have any definitive info for you but I am following. Good luck! S


On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 4:16?PM Matthew Szostak via <gurdy4me=[email protected]> wrote:
In the end, I just cleaned everything and reassembled with some new seals and bushes and things... It'll be a couple months at least before I can get back on the road and witness the results...


Re: Fork rebuilding...

 

In the end, I just cleaned everything and reassembled with some new seals and bushes and things... It'll be a couple months at least before I can get back on the road and witness the results...


Fork rebuilding...

 

I'm posting this on multiple forums, sorry if you've seen it elsewhere...
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After the "fork oil stink" thread which discussed some interesting things about fork internal parts, I've begun dismantling my forks for a service... can anyone advise regarding the "fork inner pipe" (as the parts book calls it)? I've disassembled things as far as the service manual and other online resources suggest, but there's still some bits at the bottom rattling around on the inside, which aren't shown on any diagrams I can find. They aren't mentioned in any of the written or video tutorials I've seen. I see no obvious way of removing them (no retaining rings, etc). The parts in question are inside the bottom of the main tube, concentric (if you will) to the bushing. That's what's shown in the photos, you can see the approximately 1-inch-wide relieved external groove where the bushing seats:
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Here's a link to a short video I made showing the bits and their movement:
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I was under the impression that these forks were pretty much a universal design; I've seen video tutorials for other bikes which appear to have identical parts... but no mention of these components...Do I just do my best to clean everything with those bits in place and reassemble, or is there something else I should be doing here?


Re: Bought this a few weeks ago

 

Thanks for the recommendation. Its a bit far to go though¡­


Re: The sound of silence

 

yeah those are original
its impossible to say if those pipes have been molested, but my guess is not.
thats what the end of the mufflers look like with the baffles intact.?
you would have to get deep in there to see. it requires a long drill bit.
i cut mine off at the join, welded the inner to the outer pipe, and have a set of slip ons that are identical to the?
original mufflers, but good and loud!?
i can? put the original ones on if i want a quiet ride, or a set of short sporty ones when i go offroad.?
it only takes minutes to swap out the end cans.?
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Re: The sound of silence

 


Re: The sound of silence

 

Kia Ora mark,?
Are your pipes original? Headers and mufflers one integrated unit?
You probably know that they are actually a pipe inside a pipe right??
Mine came unstuck at some point, I had to cut the mufflers off to be able to reweld the inner pipe to the outer pipe (it was rattling around inside)
Anyways, I'm saying this because after that happened, I have been free to try out all different kinds of mufflers on the bike (slip on cans) to get the right sound (and look)
Now I have cans for when I'm blapping around my local area,(real loud) cans for when I'm on tour, and something in between! ?
It's been a lot of experimenting.?
Theres some interesting stainless units getting made in Thailand, they look the business, and sound good too. Probably too loud to be legal, but I guess it depends where you live!?
I haven't tried them, I have been asking around this forum before, but apparantly no one on here has ever installed them. Beats me.?


Re: The sound of silence

 

Amen. I leave the loud pipes to Harley Riders.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 10:35?PM J Bender via <johnbender32=[email protected]> wrote:
I used to say that I wanted louder pipes but my old buddy Bill would always say "Well you haven't ridden behind you, you don't need anything louder."


Re: The sound of silence

 

I have had loud pipes and like them. It looks like my W650 is debaffled but still quiet.?


Re: The sound of silence

 

I used to say that I wanted louder pipes but my old buddy Bill would always say "Well you haven't ridden behind you, you don't need anything louder."


Re: The sound of silence

 

Harbor Freight (aka Hazard Fraught) has a set of "use once" 25" long drill bits for $15. I drilled a hole as far as I could get into the center of the mufflers and now it makes a nice burbling sound that isn't loud enough to be obnoxious.
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https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-716-in-58-in-x-25-in-long-wood-drill-bit-set-3-piece-70927.html
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Re: The sound of silence

 

One of my fresh air system hoses split..and yes,? it girggled and backfired really cool...but I fixed it...lol


On Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 10:49?AM Sal Emma via <bikewriter=[email protected]> wrote:
Good work. If you haven't already pulled the fresh air injection?system that also made my 2001 sound better. And fewer backfires.?

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 6:19?PM Tom Marckese via <tmarckesejr=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a 2001. I drilled out the baffle holes to 7/32. Used a 12" drill bit extension, super glued in the drill bit. Bike is slightly louder, but perfectly fine. Idle was affected a touch


Re: The sound of silence

 

Good work. If you haven't already pulled the fresh air injection?system that also made my 2001 sound better. And fewer backfires.?


On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 6:19?PM Tom Marckese via <tmarckesejr=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a 2001. I drilled out the baffle holes to 7/32. Used a 12" drill bit extension, super glued in the drill bit. Bike is slightly louder, but perfectly fine. Idle was affected a touch


Re: The sound of silence

 

I have a 2001. I drilled out the baffle holes to 7/32. Used a 12" drill bit extension, super glued in the drill bit. Bike is slightly louder, but perfectly fine. Idle was affected a touch


Re: The sound of silence

 

Fit POSH mufflers from Webike a Japanese company, best to upgrade the carbs with 2 shims on the needles, a jet size up on the pilot with 2 turns out on the air mix screw, and main jet up from 118 to 125? and fit pods on the carb intakes, though you will have to re enforce the holding on the carbs and electronic holding brace, if airbox is discarded. The bike will then sound and go like a late sixties Bonneville, you will have a couple of extra horsepower and torque.?

Den tors. 16. jan. 2025 kl. 12.34 skrev Mark via <Diegoplaysgrunge=[email protected]>:

Loving the bike so far and pretty happy with the modifications it came with.?
One thing is bugging me though- it is so quiet.?

I like the look of the original mufflers but the silence is killing me. Anyone recently removed the baffles from their bike??


The sound of silence

 

Loving the bike so far and pretty happy with the modifications it came with.?
One thing is bugging me though- it is so quiet.?

I like the look of the original mufflers but the silence is killing me. Anyone recently removed the baffles from their bike??


Re: W650 oil consumption

 

I have always used Shell Rotella 15 40 with great success! More cost-effective than those fancy brands with motorcycle graphics on the bottle. It's JASO rated for wet clutches. Kawi claims you can go up to 3500 mi before changing the oil but I live in a hot climate so I never go past 3k. They also state change the filter every other change.
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I have used Shell in my previous vintage ride and never had any issues either. Oil threads def start a flurry of responses and opinions, so this is my quick .02


Re: W650 oil consumption

 

Thanks, Dennis. Good advice.?

Tom - so glad to hear your cylinders aren't leaking. Good news, but of course it doesn't answer your original question.

Just FYI, the manual recommends <10W-40, 10W-50, 20W-40,or 20W-50> FWIW.

This may stir up a hornet's nest - but in my old 1981 KZ550, if I ran synthetic oil, it leaked like a sieve. Dino oil, no leaks. I actually had other KZ owners from the online forum call me a liar on that one. Seriously? Yeah, I just come over here and make s**t up,?to annoy?you.?

Idiots.

I digress.

That's no bull. Synthetic oil - leaks, dino oil, no leaks.? Obviously, a 1981 KZ550 is not a 2001 W650, but ...

Good luck.

=S


Re: Bought this a few weeks ago

 

Cheers. I will see if they are available here.?
I use Autosol for metal polishing which is pretty good and have started treating the rust with CRC rust converter.?
Thinking about options to tidy up the frame without dismantling it as I want to keep riding throughout summer and autumn (and winter tbh). Roads aren¡¯t salted here so assuming it is just 25 years of wear and questionable finish.?


Re: Bought this a few weeks ago

 

I strongly recommend ACF 50 as an effective and proven Anti-corrision protectant on all metal bits. Nothing beats SimiChrome for polishing metals. You can use diluted Simple Green and extra fine steel wool to remove some corrosion?