Thanks, Keith, do you mean you actually had to keep the pressure on
while riding down the road?

Ruari

--- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com, Keith Williams ...>
wrote:
>
> I don't know if all are aware of what a "suicide shifter" or more
correctly suicide clutch was. It was where the over-center spring
was removed from the heel and toe rocker peddle so that it wasn't bi-
stable. as designed. You had to maintain toe pressure on the front
part to keep it clutched in gear and you were in a heap 'o hurt if
you overbalanced at a stoplight and had to remove your foot from the
clutch. Keith Williams
>
> Tachokay@... wrote: Close, but no suicide shifter... I
thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide shifter...
>
> In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
r.mclennan@... writes:
>
> Hi:
>
> Here's that '31 Henderson again.
>
> Ruari
>
>
>
> Rrrose.
> @>-->--
>

Hello,

Do u know anyone that needs or wants a new barley used custom seat for a w650? $900 was paid for it and it only costs about $100 to refit it. I'm asking $200

Thanks,
-John
2065959753

Hey John! I'm thinking you might get more interested folks if you posted a
picture. Right now we don't know if it's shaped exactly the same as the
stock one, but in leather, or if it's a button-pleated highback '70's seat
in purple-dyed leather. If you need help posting pictures or uploading them
to the Photos section of our website, please don't hesitate to ask. We have
lots of people ready to help.
Oh yeah, we're also an international group, might want to mention where
you are, those could be Canadian, Australian, or USA dollars. Shipping can
be a deal-maker.

Jake


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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:44:26 -0000
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] W650 Leather Custom Seat


Hello,

Do u know anyone that needs or wants a new barley used custom seat for a
w650? $900 was paid for it and it only costs about $100 to refit it. I'm
asking $200

Thanks,
-John
2065959753



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My chum used to be a bit of a back fire king, using the cut out
switch on his Triumph 6T. That was, until one backfire launched his
baffles down the high street like a mortar bomb....
Pete

--- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...>
wrote:

Back firing can be cool, some people have made it into an

art..engine

cut-off switch off, rev throttle, turn cut-off back on release

clutch with

bike now rolling in gear..KA-BLAM!!! Not that I have ever done

that though.

James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: "Ray Nielsen" <rnielse1@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Air injection
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:48:33 -0000

--- In W650riders@..., "G.L. Kobe" <cowdog_bluehealer@>
wrote:
>
> Yes. You will no longer backfire on decel.
>
>
> Kirk Johnson <johnsonkirk@> wrote:
> Is there any advantage or disadvantage to removing the
> air injection system?
> Thanks,
> Kirk
>
No need to remove it. Just plug the line going from the air

cleaner

to the control valve. I used a rubber stopper, inserted it into

the

tube and reconnected the tube to the control valve.

Voila, no more backfiring.

Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis and going for a ride today.

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Sounds great. I've always had a soft spot for the '70's Cafe Racer.

got any pictures?

Jon

I think the Sportster is a great partner to the W650. I have both a
2000 W650 and a 1996 Sportster XL1200S Sport. The Sport has
adjustable Showa forks and dual front discs. If you add rearsets and
clipons and a decent seat, then it becomes a really fun scoot. '

No, it is not particularly fast, but the wide flat powerband
and more than ample torque combine with decent handling and braking
to make it easy to ride without requiring a lot of work. If you
switch to 17" wheels and sticky tires it gets even better. Don't
worry about the vibration if you buy an older one with a solid-mount
engine, just install BalanceMasters active vibration dampers and
fiddle with the final drive ratios (or even switch to chain drive)
and once it is dialed in, then just enjoy it.

Although any Japanese 600 can run rings around it, that is balanced
out by the double-takes from all of the head-to-toe leather-clad
dumplings on their cool Harleys who are cruising along at 30mph when
you pass them on the outside of a curve.

You do have to think about it though. One of the classic disparaging
comments about Harleys is that they vibrate so much that parts fall
off. It is true, too. the first time I rode the Sporty any
distance, both mirrors, the taillight, and one turn signal fell off.
I felt like I had finally gained admittance to a long and proud
tradition!

At any rate, keep the W650, get a Sportster too.

Alex

--- In W650riders@..., "Larry Botheras"
<larry.botheras@> wrote:

Think long and hard. unless it's tricked up the 1200 sporty will

feel

slower than the W IMHO, it's not that much more powerful (HD never

quote)

but it is a lot heavier



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Behalf Of John
Sent: 11 July 2007 06:39
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Thinking about getting rid of my w650



I found a sportster 1200r that's tempting me to get rid of the w.

What

are your thoughts on the 2006 sportster 1200 roadster?

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From: petetibble

To: W650riders@...

Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:33 PM

Subject: [W650riders] Re: Air injection

My chum used to be a bit of a back fire king, using the cut out
switch on his Triumph 6T. That was, until one backfire launched his
baffles down the high street like a mortar bomb....
Pete

--- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com, "James Franklin" >
wrote:
>
> Back firing can be cool, some people have made it into an
art..engine
> cut-off switch off, rev throttle, turn cut-off back on release
clutch with
> bike now rolling in gear..KA-BLAM!!! Not that I have ever done
that though.

.

CAROLE Nash, the lady who owns the big UK bike insurance broker owns a
fire truck red one like that….

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Larry Botheras

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Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

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From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...]
On Behalf Of Ruari McLennan
Sent: 12 July 2007 23:05
To: W650 Riders
Subject: [W650riders] Henderson

?

Hi:

?

Here's that '31 Henderson again.

?

Ruari

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Good shot at it, Anita!??? And thank your husband for us.? But...? Just to forestall the thousands of other people who will (I hope) display their ignorance by asking the same thing...??

And to put your husband on the hot seat, which is part of the fun? of our group (I've been there, believe me)

What's a throttle sensor setting adapter?? and what is standard?

?

Ruari

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----- Original Message -----

From: Anita Reid

To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:44 PM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] throttle sensor adjustment

This is the info I got from my husband.

Connect the throttle sensor setting adapter between the sensor wire connectors.

start engine

operate engine at idle speed

loosen sensor mounting screws

adjust sensor mounting position to set the sensor output voltage to standard and tighten the mounting screws.

He actually only adjusted my throttle not the sensor.

james .net> wrote:

I have found that my bike's acceleration at full throttle at,say, 3,500-
4,000 rpm, is underwhelming in terms of an increase over 3/4 throttle.
I'm beginning to suspect that the throttle position sensor, which does
not provide full advance of 35 degrees until 5,000,is too conservative.
Happily, the throttle sensor is adjustable. Naturally, one does not
want to go to far with this as it may provoke "knock." Does any have
any experience adjusting this thing for a better advance curve?

To operate the hand shift..

You start the bike by kicking it through, control grip opposite the
throttle, operated in a similer way as the throttle..retard to start, then
advance as you pick up speed..cars and bikes advance automatically now of
course.

While pressing down on the clutch with your left foot, you would select
first by pushing the gear shift forward with your hand, the lever was on one
side of the tank (Harley, I believe, had a left hand shift, right hand
throttle, Indian..a right hand shift, left hand throttle..anyway, I would
remember better had I ever operated one, but I only read about it..and
thought the foot clutch thing was a stupid idea, so I really didn't retain
the info all that well). Each of the successive gears was selected by
pulling the lever back..most had three..some had a reverse as side cars were
very common then.

James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)

From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:17:19 -0700

Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist
shifting?

And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some
bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills
etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre-
1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes?

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@hotmail.com>
To: <W650riders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson

> Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American
> motorcycles..my book on American motorcycles features over 100 makes..I
> left
> it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do
> remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think
> technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the
> "see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated
> clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
>
> We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles
> until
> after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the
> change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original
> Springfield
> Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches.
>
> Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys.
>
>
>
> James Franklin
> 2411 Pine Summit DR. E
> Jacksonville, Florida 32211
>
> 808-225-0994 (cell)
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@shaw.ca>
> Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
> To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700
>
> Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my
> way
> in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
>
> Ruari
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tachokay@cs.com
> To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
>
>
> Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had
> the suicide shifter...
>
> In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> r.mclennan@shaw.ca writes:
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Here's that '31 Henderson again.
>
> Ruari
>
>
>
>
> Rrrose.
> @>-->--
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