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Re: Seeking advice on long-term storage

 

Re: Today...

ksufanatic342
 

Here in the city I had NEVER seen another dub. Then in one day we had TWO come to our
shop! LOL..Then I took the little one to a parade for the 4th and there was one in the
parade. (Green and creme) I almost started to think that Kawi started making them again!

--- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> wrote:

I am never on my W when I come accross another one....besides in the
showroom, I can't remember seeing two of them in one place.

With litterally thousands of bikes in Daytona, I saw only one other W, and
we were going in opposite directions.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





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Subject: Re: [W650riders] Today...
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:18:50 EDT

Dude! My Dub, of course!

In a message dated 7/7/2007 5:57:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jimw650@... writes:
>
>
> For this chance encounter, were you on your W or V-Star?
>
>
>


Rrrose.
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Re: Next trip NWC

Dick Tym
 

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Wet weather plans are The Eden project and/or a day in Exeter
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

…Ooops looking at our forecast, but BBC Website for Bodmin give half and half.? Only light rain for? Wednesday, and bit heavier Friday, with the rest fine

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There are some good places to get out to down there, but unfortunately not many close to train stations…? If you get a chance, Morwellham Quay on the Tamar is good. A restored mineral port.?

?

Don’t eat too many oggies!

?

?

Larry Botheras (the site resident Cornishman)

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

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Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

Larry Botheras
 

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A lot of wet clutches “stick” when starting up.? Start up with the clutch lever pulled in, and as others have said engage first with the brake on.? The GTR would leap forward if it had been stopped for a while unless you did that

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

I always snick it into first as the motor runs down off a throttle
blip...and I have the front brake on as I do. It still graunches a bit, but
it doesn't leap forward! Trouble is, you can't 'free the clutch' like on the
old Triumphs because the kickstart is through the gearbox and propels the
bike forward w3hen the bike's in gear.

Jon

I don't know why, but perhaps it goes in

> That's incredible mileage. I'm surprised he ever went over 30 mph!
>
> A mystery. Here's my start-off procedure if you think it'll help. Got it
> by
> amalgamating others' on this group. Sorry to teach granny to suck eggs,
> but
> I wondered if it's something to do with going into gear at the higher revs
> you keep mentioning.
>
> I always warm her a bit up to 2000-2250 with the choke on, and shove in
> the
> choke completely before heading off. This prevents me forgetting to put
> it
> in later and fouling the plugs, which doesn't take long if you ride with
> the
> choke out. . This procedure takes a few minutes in winter and right now,
> in
> the good weather with my richer #38 pilot jet in, only 20-30 seconds. So
> when I put her into first with the clutch disengaged, while idling at
> maybe
> 200-500, I have no revs going at all hardly. So little scrunching going
> on. Then I rev up to 2000-2500 at least and let in the clutch and chug up
> my steep driveway.
>
> About 50% of the time mine goes into 1st fine but gives a big jump and
> graunch of protest, esp. if cold. I think it's the clutch sticking. If I
> don't pull firmly & fast from first into second it'll graunch there too.
> Going down I have to be firm and fast on the tap or it might do the same
> from second-first.
>
> I've forgotten how many miles are on it, have the valves been adjusted?
> (thinking bags of nails sounds). Never had electrical whines or bevel
> whines (touch wood).
>
> Remember, many say this bike loves a good "thrashing, "caning" etc. I
> have
> resolved never to baby mine, I twist that throttle whenever I can even if
> just to get up to revs in town. More fun.
>
> Go compare with another W, ride it hard for a while, and see.
> R.
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Re: Next trip NWC

Larry Botheras
 

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…Ooops looking at our forecast, but BBC Website for Bodmin give half and half.? Only light rain for? Wednesday, and bit heavier Friday, with the rest fine

?

There are some good places to get out to down there, but unfortunately not many close to train stations…? If you get a chance, Morwellham Quay on the Tamar is good. A restored mineral port.?

?

Don’t eat too many oggies!

?

?

Larry Botheras (the site resident Cornishman)

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

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From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Dick Tym
Sent: 09 July 2007 14:34
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

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Thanks Nige I'm sure we will. If it rains we have planned some trios out on the train especially as it cost us nothing.

You must tell me which forecast you are using as the ones I have seen on TV & on line are giving sunshine & showers

Dick

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:10 PM

Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

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Well at last the forecast is dry for the next few days…? Have a good one…

?

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Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

I always snick it into first as the motor runs down off a throttle blip...and I have the front brake on as I do. It still graunches a bit, but it doesn't leap forward! Trouble is, you can't 'free the clutch' like on the old Triumphs because the kickstart is through the gearbox and propels the bike forward w3hen the bike's in gear.

Jon



I don't know why, but perhaps it goes in

That's incredible mileage. I'm surprised he ever went over 30 mph!

A mystery. Here's my start-off procedure if you think it'll help. Got it by
amalgamating others' on this group. Sorry to teach granny to suck eggs, but
I wondered if it's something to do with going into gear at the higher revs
you keep mentioning.

I always warm her a bit up to 2000-2250 with the choke on, and shove in the
choke completely before heading off. This prevents me forgetting to put it
in later and fouling the plugs, which doesn't take long if you ride with the
choke out. . This procedure takes a few minutes in winter and right now, in
the good weather with my richer #38 pilot jet in, only 20-30 seconds. So
when I put her into first with the clutch disengaged, while idling at maybe
200-500, I have no revs going at all hardly. So little scrunching going
on. Then I rev up to 2000-2500 at least and let in the clutch and chug up
my steep driveway.

About 50% of the time mine goes into 1st fine but gives a big jump and
graunch of protest, esp. if cold. I think it's the clutch sticking. If I
don't pull firmly & fast from first into second it'll graunch there too.
Going down I have to be firm and fast on the tap or it might do the same
from second-first.

I've forgotten how many miles are on it, have the valves been adjusted?
(thinking bags of nails sounds). Never had electrical whines or bevel
whines (touch wood).

Remember, many say this bike loves a good "thrashing, "caning" etc. I have
resolved never to baby mine, I twist that throttle whenever I can even if
just to get up to revs in town. More fun.

Go compare with another W, ride it hard for a while, and see.
R.



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Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

Ruari McLennan
 

That's incredible mileage. I'm surprised he ever went over 30 mph!

A mystery. Here's my start-off procedure if you think it'll help. Got it by amalgamating others' on this group. Sorry to teach granny to suck eggs, but I wondered if it's something to do with going into gear at the higher revs you keep mentioning.

I always warm her a bit up to 2000-2250 with the choke on, and shove in the choke completely before heading off. This prevents me forgetting to put it in later and fouling the plugs, which doesn't take long if you ride with the choke out. . This procedure takes a few minutes in winter and right now, in the good weather with my richer #38 pilot jet in, only 20-30 seconds. So when I put her into first with the clutch disengaged, while idling at maybe 200-500, I have no revs going at all hardly. So little scrunching going on. Then I rev up to 2000-2500 at least and let in the clutch and chug up my steep driveway.

About 50% of the time mine goes into 1st fine but gives a big jump and graunch of protest, esp. if cold. I think it's the clutch sticking. If I don't pull firmly & fast from first into second it'll graunch there too. Going down I have to be firm and fast on the tap or it might do the same from second-first.

I've forgotten how many miles are on it, have the valves been adjusted? (thinking bags of nails sounds). Never had electrical whines or bevel whines (touch wood).

Remember, many say this bike loves a good "thrashing, "caning" etc. I have resolved never to baby mine, I twist that throttle whenever I can even if just to get up to revs in town. More fun.

Go compare with another W, ride it hard for a while, and see.
R.
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

Make sure the shift lever in snug on the shaft. These bikes have a
pretty long throw and if the lever is loose you can have problems with
getting a positive gear change.

Leonard

--- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...>
wrote:
Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the box.
Re: Next trip NWC

Dick Tym
 

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Thanks Nige I'm sure we will. If it rains we have planned some trios out on the train especially as it cost us nothing.
You must tell me which forecast you are using as the ones I have seen on TV & on line are giving sunshine & showers
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

Well at last the forecast is dry for the next few days…? Have a good one…

?

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Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

nige_1959
 

No I didn't test ride, other than a 50 yard burst up the road, the
gear change didn't clunk, and on the back of one other. And yes you
are right every little noise I will be jumping all over. As to being
pleased, I love the torque and the fact it romps reasonably quickly up
to 90, which, as I was expecting it to actually be slower
accelerating, than it is is a bonus.

--- In W650riders@..., "Larry Botheras"
<larry.botheras@...> wrote:

Nige,



You really need to get it alongside another w650 to compare like for
like.
Right now you are sensitised to the slightest little thing, and the
glass is
going to be half empty rather than half full. It doesn't sound to
me that
there is anything major wrong with the bike and that some of the
issues are
just "getting used" issues with any new bike.



I don't know whether you test rode before you bought (other than the
bike
you bought) but it is possible to "believe" you want a particular
bike so
much, but when you ride it , you feel let down - mainly by its
failure to
live up to expectations. I know when I got the first GTR, I
actually wanted
a 900 Trophy triple. I rode the GTR first and was pleasantly surprised.
Then I rode the Trophy and thought it was poor. I was gutted.





Larry Botheras



Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo







From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On
Behalf Of nige_1959
Sent: 09 July 2007 09:47
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether
I hate
my...



Bl**dy typical I spend ages looking for a minter and get one that is
virtually spotless, with a full service history, that has obviously
been well cared for by the owner, not thrashed and it is a
***problem*** bike. I have decided that if I can't get it sorted by
the end of the summer then I am going to get rid of it and look for
something else....I am so p*ssed of right now. The bikes are not going
well, we have just got some work, which means my dream of going to Uni
is over....Arrgghh

--- In W650riders@...
<mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@>
wrote:

Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.

If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
over there.

Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
to compare with another you'll know.

Ruari


--- In W650riders@...
<mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"leeferiksen" <lief_e@> wrote:

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below
the
max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch
drags
a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and
lower
lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.
Re: Next trip NWC

Larry Botheras
 

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Well at last the forecast is dry for the next few days…? Have a good one…

?

From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Dick Tym
Sent: 09 July 2007 11:24
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

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We are staying in Bodmin
Dick

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:04 AM

Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

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Dick,

?

I hope you’ve had your visa issued!? Whereabouts are you going? Been (like everywhere in the UK) a pretty wet time down there

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?
Re: Poor man's auto-luber for the chain ?15.00

Larry Botheras
 

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I use CASTROL chain wax on our bikes… really good stuff, low fling.

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From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of nic.ashmore
Sent: 09 July 2007 10:27
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Poor man's auto-luber for the chain ?15.00

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--- In W650riders@..., "Dennis J. Guggemos"
wrote:
>
>
quick-
lube_W0QQitemZ300127998145QQihZ020QQcategoryZ9946QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewIt
em
>
Has any one used the dry chain lub's I see advertised, eg Wurth. Are
they any good?
3 months into the 'w' and I am loving it! Keep turning in 75mpg, is
this reasonable? Even been out in the rain twice, it's either that or
stay in at the moment.

Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

Larry Botheras
 

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Nige,

?

You really need to get it alongside another w650 to compare like for like.? Right now you are sensitised to the slightest little thing, and the glass is going to be half empty rather than half full.? It doesn’t sound to me that there is anything major wrong with the bike and that some of the issues are just “getting used” issues with any new bike.?

?

I don’t know whether you test rode before you bought (other than the bike you bought) but it is possible to “believe” you want a particular bike so much, but when you ride it , you feel let down – mainly by its failure to live up to expectations.? I know when I got the first GTR, I actually wanted a 900 Trophy triple.? I rode the GTR first and was pleasantly surprised… Then I rode the Trophy and thought it was poor…? I was gutted…

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of nige_1959
Sent: 09 July 2007 09:47
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

?

Bl**dy typical I spend ages looking for a minter and get one that is
virtually spotless, with a full service history, that has obviously
been well cared for by the owner, not thrashed and it is a
***problem*** bike. I have decided that if I can't get it sorted by
the end of the summer then I am going to get rid of it and look for
something else....I am so p*ssed of right now. The bikes are not going
well, we have just got some work, which means my dream of going to Uni
is over....Arrgghh

--- In W650riders@..., "Ruari McLennan"
wrote:
>
> Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
> to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.
>
> If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
> swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
> over there.
>
> Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
> unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
> to compare with another you'll know.
>
> Ruari
>
>
> --- In W650riders@..., "leeferiksen" wrote:
> >
> > The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
> > much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below
> the
> > max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch
> drags
> > a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and
> lower
> > lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).
> >
> > Lief.
>
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

You've got to run at a VERY slow pace to get 89 mpg. I'd be surprised
if that bike has even sniffed 6000 before you got it. I think it
needs some serious thrashing. It's clearly as tight as a duck's arse.

You definitely need to compare it, and get it compared to other W's
because with all due respect, you are sounding increasingly paranoid
about stuff that so far sounds entirely normal.

The gearboxes are NOT butter smooth in these bikes. They are
certainly not as bad as the air-cooled Beemers and 850cc
Guzzis...Those bikes really crunched as you shifted out of first. The
trouble is, your Yams have awesome shifts, I know, I've ridden a few,
but big torquey twins have a fair amount of metal in their gearboxes.

I have to say that the W's gearbox isn't as failsafe as say my
SR500's was and using it clutchless will result in a false neutral or
so, but aybe you are treating it like it has glass cogs or something.

If you can get it down here you can take mnine out and I'll ride
yours. We should be able to allay your fears re reliability at least.
Whether you'll want to keep the bike after that is something only
you'll know!

#Jon


My graunches from cold if the revs are too high, but once on the
move
it is is fine, however once it is warmed up then the gearchange gets
worse.

The whining noise at 3.5k revs seems to coming from the LH side of
the
engine, surely that isn't bevel noise there is it?. My bike is
whisper
quiet at cold, has the 3.5k rev whine (didn't notice when this
started, whether cold or warm) and then once warm sounds like a bag
of
nails from the bevel area.

I accept that it hasn't been run hard very often, as, whilst the
bloke
said he had seen 85 on the clock, he kept a record of mpg, which
showed a low of 67mpg and a high of 89mph, with his average being
about 75mpg...
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

nige_1959
 

My graunches from cold if the revs are too high, but once on the move
it is is fine, however once it is warmed up then the gearchange gets
worse.

The whining noise at 3.5k revs seems to coming from the LH side of the
engine, surely that isn't bevel noise there is it?. My bike is whisper
quiet at cold, has the 3.5k rev whine (didn't notice when this
started, whether cold or warm) and then once warm sounds like a bag of
nails from the bevel area.

I accept that it hasn't been run hard very often, as, whilst the bloke
said he had seen 85 on the clock, he kept a record of mpg, which
showed a low of 67mpg and a high of 89mph, with his average being
about 75mpg...

--- In W650riders@..., "Jon Haddock" <jonhaddock@...> wrote:

They always graunch into first from cold. I just hold the front
brake and
push it through.

The whine is simply the bevel. It's just snug. In the manual there is
a note
about adjustment and it talks about whether it is preferable to have
a whine
when cold or hot. Mine whines cold but rattles a bit when hot. Yours
sounds
lovely and tight. As you use it the whine will diminish. I suspect
it's been
ridden very gently and needs running in.

The 'electrical' whine is common and is actually something else. I
suspect
it is a pressure differential somewhere. If you disconnect the
battery it
carries on!. The W has a fairly clever anti-vapour system in the tank
and I
reckon that has something to do with it.

My car however really does whine when stopped and turned off. . If
you open
a door the active suspension computer wakes up and makes a whine for
30
seconds while it waits for someone to get in so it can adjust the
spring
rates!

Jon


--- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@>
wrote:

bl**dy W or like it.

The oil was over filled, as I said before, and today I dropped
600ml
out to get to just below the maximum mark. The syringe method
didn't
work as I couldn't the flexible hose past the last gear on the
cluster. However Ruari's idea of putting the bike on the
centrestand
and then putting same size bits of wood under the front and rear
wheels worked a treat. I had already checked the rear sprocket and
the chain, which has no tight spot and is perfectly adjusted.The
clutch lever is also by the book as regards free play at the lever
and I took my heated grips off, as they meant I lost half an inch
of
travel on the lever. Due to the cr*p weather this was the first
time O had started it since June 1st. I keep her hooked up to
Optimate trickle charger, still took a couple of dabs on the
starter
but off she went. I tried to put her in to 1st only to receive a
baulk and a scrunch. However I then figured it might because I am
trying at too high a revs. SO I blipped the throttle a few time and
dobbed the choke in and wey hay into 1st she went. Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the
box.

There is a whine once the revs hit 3.5k, regardless of gear, and as
a result I am getting more and more p*ssed off with this damn bike.
Went for 45 minute run through the country lanes, topped off with a
90mph ride back down some dual-carriageway (allegedly officer).Park
her up and then started working on my RZ, go back into the garage
to
hear a high pitched, low volume, electrical whine...now I am
getting
to the stage where I want to ship this bike out and replace it with
a Honda! The noise has now gone without me finding out exactly what
it was....obvious suspect is the alarm.

I am more worried about the whine at 3.5k and above...anyone else
got this? Could this be result of me turning the bike off when the
revs were up and hearing a terrible clunk, as the pistons stopped
dead, as I previously described...I certain don't remember the
whine
before! :>(

On the flip side this bike is so forgiving, it doesn't matter what
revs you go into a corner at, as she will pull out of the bend. It
is nice to bimble along at slow speeds. My route was through some
pretty villages, with thatched cottages and down lovely twisty
roads. And then to hit dual-carriageway and shoot past a Ninja and
a
Suzuki GS500 at 85-90mph (allegedly). So atht emoment it is a love-
hate relationship, which, as this was meant to be my reliable, no
tinker, bike is a bit disappointing!

In addition I decided to do a gearbox change on the RZ, removing
the
black 3 year old oil and replacing with the Silkolene Light Gear
Oil
(as used by many on the forum) to end up with sticker gearchanges
and a buzzing noise (like a nut loose) than I had using the rubbish
that was in there....not a good weekend!
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

 

They always graunch into first from cold. I just hold the front
brake and
push it through.

The whine is simply the bevel. It's just snug. In the manual there is
a note
about adjustment and it talks about whether it is preferable to have
a whine
when cold or hot. Mine whines cold but rattles a bit when hot. Yours
sounds
lovely and tight. As you use it the whine will diminish. I suspect
it's been
ridden very gently and needs running in.

The 'electrical' whine is common and is actually something else. I
suspect
it is a pressure differential somewhere. If you disconnect the
battery it
carries on!. The W has a fairly clever anti-vapour system in the tank
and I
reckon that has something to do with it.

My car however really does whine when stopped and turned off. . If
you open
a door the active suspension computer wakes up and makes a whine for
30
seconds while it waits for someone to get in so it can adjust the
spring
rates!

Jon


--- In W650riders@..., "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...>
wrote:

bl**dy W or like it.

The oil was over filled, as I said before, and today I dropped
600ml
out to get to just below the maximum mark. The syringe method
didn't
work as I couldn't the flexible hose past the last gear on the
cluster. However Ruari's idea of putting the bike on the
centrestand
and then putting same size bits of wood under the front and rear
wheels worked a treat. I had already checked the rear sprocket and
the chain, which has no tight spot and is perfectly adjusted.The
clutch lever is also by the book as regards free play at the lever
and I took my heated grips off, as they meant I lost half an inch
of
travel on the lever. Due to the cr*p weather this was the first
time O had started it since June 1st. I keep her hooked up to
Optimate trickle charger, still took a couple of dabs on the
starter
but off she went. I tried to put her in to 1st only to receive a
baulk and a scrunch. However I then figured it might because I am
trying at too high a revs. SO I blipped the throttle a few time and
dobbed the choke in and wey hay into 1st she went. Even so, once
warm she still crunches from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd. The
rest of gears are sweet going up and not to bad coming down the
box.

There is a whine once the revs hit 3.5k, regardless of gear, and as
a result I am getting more and more p*ssed off with this damn bike.
Went for 45 minute run through the country lanes, topped off with a
90mph ride back down some dual-carriageway (allegedly officer).Park
her up and then started working on my RZ, go back into the garage
to
hear a high pitched, low volume, electrical whine...now I am
getting
to the stage where I want to ship this bike out and replace it with
a Honda! The noise has now gone without me finding out exactly what
it was....obvious suspect is the alarm.

I am more worried about the whine at 3.5k and above...anyone else
got this? Could this be result of me turning the bike off when the
revs were up and hearing a terrible clunk, as the pistons stopped
dead, as I previously described...I certain don't remember the
whine
before! :>(

On the flip side this bike is so forgiving, it doesn't matter what
revs you go into a corner at, as she will pull out of the bend. It
is nice to bimble along at slow speeds. My route was through some
pretty villages, with thatched cottages and down lovely twisty
roads. And then to hit dual-carriageway and shoot past a Ninja and
a
Suzuki GS500 at 85-90mph (allegedly). So atht emoment it is a love-
hate relationship, which, as this was meant to be my reliable, no
tinker, bike is a bit disappointing!

In addition I decided to do a gearbox change on the RZ, removing
the
black 3 year old oil and replacing with the Silkolene Light Gear
Oil
(as used by many on the forum) to end up with sticker gearchanges
and a buzzing noise (like a nut loose) than I had using the rubbish
that was in there....not a good weekend!
Re: Next trip NWC

Dick Tym
 

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We are staying in Bodmin
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Next trip NWC

Dick,

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I hope you’ve had your visa issued!? Whereabouts are you going? Been (like everywhere in the UK) a pretty wet time down there

?

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Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

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Re: Poor man's auto-luber for the chain ?15.00

nic.ashmore
 

--- In W650riders@..., "Dennis J. Guggemos" <djguggms@...>
wrote:

quick-
lube_W0QQitemZ300127998145QQihZ020QQcategoryZ9946QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewIt
em
Has any one used the dry chain lub's I see advertised, eg Wurth. Are
they any good?
3 months into the 'w' and I am loving it! Keep turning in 75mpg, is
this reasonable? Even been out in the rain twice, it's either that or
stay in at the moment.
Re: Arrgghhh...I can't make up my mind whether I hate my...

nige_1959
 

Bl**dy typical I spend ages looking for a minter and get one that is
virtually spotless, with a full service history, that has obviously
been well cared for by the owner, not thrashed and it is a
***problem*** bike. I have decided that if I can't get it sorted by
the end of the summer then I am going to get rid of it and look for
something else....I am so p*ssed of right now. The bikes are not going
well, we have just got some work, which means my dream of going to Uni
is over....Arrgghh



--- In W650riders@..., "Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@...>
wrote:

Also, Nige, I forget what oil weight you are using, if it's 20W-50 go
to 10W-40. I assume your clutch lever is adjusted OK.

If these suggestions don't work, see if you can get to ride with and
swap with another W owner. There are more of you closer together
over there.

Perhaps you have a typical W650, but it doesn't sound like it, it
unfortunately sounds like you may have a problem bike, and if you get
to compare with another you'll know.

Ruari


--- In W650riders@..., "leeferiksen" <lief_e@> wrote:

The clunky gear changes may be because you still have a little too
much oil. I find that with too much oil in my W (ie. *just* below
the
max. line), my gear changes get pretty chunky because the clutch
drags
a bit. Bring the oil level down to exactly between the upper and
lower
lines and your shifting may improve (worked for me).

Lief.
Re: Next trip NWC

Larry Botheras
 

开云体育

Dick,

?

I hope you’ve had your visa issued!? Whereabouts are you going? Been (like everywhere in the UK) a pretty wet time down there

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

At the moment I'm watching the Tour De France much of which is on the roads I ride on my commute to work

I'm off on the CB to Cornwall on Tuesday to look at the rain down there. :)

Dick
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