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Re: W's look like.....

 

nice,
Ursula


----- Original Message ----
From: Roy Easthill
To: "W650riders@yahoogroup"
Sent: Wednesday, 4 July, 2007 3:26:36 PM
Subject: [W650riders] W's look like.....

I still reckon my W looks more like my old?A65 than a Bonnie.
Here's the 2 of them.
Roy


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W's look like.....

Roy Easthill
 

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I still reckon my W looks more like my old?A65 than a Bonnie.
Here's the 2 of them.
Roy
Whae's like us?

Roy Easthill
 

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I'm no gonna comment!!!
Roy
?

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If this had happened in a US airport,compared to Glasgow ???

?

?Eyewitness accounts,

?

America:"Oh my God! there was a man on fire,he was running

about, i just? ran for my life..i thought i was gonna die,he got so

close to me"

?

Glasgow "C*nt wis running aboot on fire, so a ran up n gave

him a good boot, then decked him"

?

America:"I just wanna get home,away from here..i just wanna

get home,i thought i was gonna die"

?

Glasgow:"here Shuggie, am no leaving here till am oan a f*ckin' plane!"

?

America:"there was pandemonium, people were running in all

directions,we didn't know what was hapening,i thought i was gonna die"

?

Glasgow:"F*ck this fir a kerry oan, 'mon we'll get a pint in"

?

America:"We thought he was gonna blow us all up he had a

gas canister,and was trying to get into his trunk,i thought we were

gonna die,i just ran for my life"

?

Glasgow:"a swaggered by the motor that wis on fire,and the

dafty couldnae even open his boot,he wis in fire annaw, so a ran up n gave him a good boot to the baws"

?

America:there was this huge explosion,it sounded like war,i

thought i was gonna die"

?

Glasgow:"There wis a bang, yi know when yi thro a banger

intae a fire, it wis like that"

?

America:"i'm too traumatised even to speak,i thought i was

gonna die"

?

Glasgow "here mate, gies 2 minutes till a phone ma auld

dear,if am gonna be oan the telly a want her tae tape it"

?

?

& finally, two quotes from an eye-witness.........John Smeaton

?

(These are real)

?

John just surpassed himself on the National ITV new. The interviewer

?

asked "What message do you have for the bombers" - he replied

"This is Glasgow we'll just set about you"

?

John done an interview on cnn and they asked how he

restrained the guy and he said "me and other folk were just tryin?tae

get the boot in and some other guy banjoed him" !

?

Mr Smeaton - Local Hero

?


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Re: Yamaha RD 350 Content

Pete Cordell
 

I've got a set if you need them, Jim. I'm pretty sure they're off
an RD...they're not from mine but some from a bucket of parts I got
somewhere or another. A left and a right, too...even have the
tuning fork logo on the backs of them. Not concours but good cond;
very sevicable

Pete C



--- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...>
wrote:

Evan had mirrors in a drawer at his condo, don't know if those
were RD
mirrors or not, niether of my new bikes have mirrors, or
batteries. I have
extra mirrors here and I had one adapter for the right hand mirror
to allow
use of a regular mirror, Yamahas have a reverse thread on the
right mirror.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)
Re: Yamaha RD 350 Content

 

Update on orange RD (1975 RD 350 C).

I rode the bike last night around the nieghborhood.

Still may not have ridden it long enough to warm it to the point that it makes the noise that Evan, the PO, heard. My younger brother said that he heard some "piston slap", not unusual for a two stroke (both these bikes have 13,000 + miles showing, and obviously piston and rings are called for on the "B" model now, but I figuire I am only half way to new rings on the "C").

Since my initial starting session, now it always starts on first kick, will roll-on wheelie in first, others I have owned would do that in the first few gears, but this one runs better everytime I ride it so that may still be happening at some point. That wheelie anytime it feels like it (and not always when you want it to), was what endangered my base driving privileges back in 1975 when I owned my first RD..an orange 1975.

Evan had mirrors in a drawer at his condo, don't know if those were RD mirrors or not, niether of my new bikes have mirrors, or batteries. I have extra mirrors here and I had one adapter for the right hand mirror to allow use of a regular mirror, Yamahas have a reverse thread on the right mirror. The left turn signal was missing on "C", so I have already put the one from "B" on it..the signals still don't work, and the bike only has one fuse..the main, so I am going to have to look around for a wiring problem. All other lights work just fine, and the bike seems OK with the NS 3 AMP battery in place.

I will be putting the luggage rack from the "B" model on the "C" model...the "C" is a keeper as it is like my first RD, I owned my "B" model several motorcycles after I owned the "C", and my "C" had a luggage rack. Also thinking about a SUPER BIKE bar swap, it was something that I thought about when I owned the first one, my R5 had CLUBMAN bars, upside down for some reason..I guess I didn't know at the time that they were supposed to emulate clip-ons.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: "Pete Cordell" <plkkc@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Yamaha RD 350 Content
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:29:41 -0000

Hahaha...super bike...no, Superbike! Had a '74...bought it brand
new in the middle of winter, the only bike I've ever had delivered
to the house. Had no car that year so rode it to work mostly
dressed in a snowmobile suit with a set of Hippo Hands...talk about
freezing you a** off...I'm shivering now just thinking of it!

I put a set of car coils on it, per an article from (I think) Cycle
mag, to make the plugs spark hotter and last longer. Never had a
problem with it...reliable, cheap-to-run, tough bike that could take
a lot of abuse as long as you kept the oil tank full.

Pete C


--- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...>
wrote:

I bought two RD 350s today, a 1974 RD 350 B (purple) and a 1975 RD
350 C
(orange). OK, so I am lonely/bored and this is what I do.

The plan is to use one for parts and make one a runner, however,
both seem
to be intact..the 74 has a holed piston, but everything else is
there..the
74 is kinda rusty too.

Anyway, not a big investment yet, it should be fun getting them up
and
running...or at least, getting one of them up and running.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)
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Re: Yamaha RD 350 Content

Pete Cordell
 

Hahaha...super bike...no, Superbike! Had a '74...bought it brand
new in the middle of winter, the only bike I've ever had delivered
to the house. Had no car that year so rode it to work mostly
dressed in a snowmobile suit with a set of Hippo Hands...talk about
freezing you a** off...I'm shivering now just thinking of it!

I put a set of car coils on it, per an article from (I think) Cycle
mag, to make the plugs spark hotter and last longer. Never had a
problem with it...reliable, cheap-to-run, tough bike that could take
a lot of abuse as long as you kept the oil tank full.

Pete C


--- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...>
wrote:

I bought two RD 350s today, a 1974 RD 350 B (purple) and a 1975 RD
350 C
(orange). OK, so I am lonely/bored and this is what I do.

The plan is to use one for parts and make one a runner, however,
both seem
to be intact..the 74 has a holed piston, but everything else is
there..the
74 is kinda rusty too.

Anyway, not a big investment yet, it should be fun getting them up
and
running...or at least, getting one of them up and running.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)
Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition

Pete Cordell
 

Matty,
Cosmic, IMO, is something like the new Suzuki B-King thingy.

Tigers, Stroms, Beemer GS's, KLR's, etc, etc, sell well because
they work well in the real world. Granted, they might look a little
goofy to the purist, but they are popular for a reason.

When I advertised my V-Strom last Feb. I sold it on the second
inquiry....by email, sight unseen, at a high-ish price for the
mileage and condition. I had at least a dozen more calls (from as
far away as Texas) before I could pull the ad off of Craigslist.
The local dealer here stays sold out of them while his cruisers and
rep racers are languishing this year.

I like Classic bikes and I like 'classic' bikes, too, but I wouldn't
use a '56 Crown Victoria as my day-to-day ride.


Pete C


--- In W650riders@..., <musicmatty@...> wrote:

=====================
From: "Dennis J. Guggemos" <djguggms@...>
Date: 2007/07/04 Wed AM 12:16:38 CDT
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us -
Petition







**
Another cosmic looking bike they dare to call a motorcycle. Now I
understand why Im seeing New Harley Sportsters everywhere on the
road again...great price and great looks of simplicity.
Just my thoughts on the Versy Matty









Biff????Yeah, I'm a fan of that one. The August Cycle World did a
write up on it, really liked it. Recommended reading if the bike
peaks your interest. Detuned 650R, nice power curve. Like a W on
steroids. Whole different look, though.????They're releasing it as
an early 08, but not for California. I hope they bring a Cal legal
model in next year. Won't meet smog now.????Here's the US
distributor page on
it... you
want to read what the owners think of the Versys, go
here...
option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1????Dennis???? ----- Original Message -
---- From: bufallobiff To: W650riders@... Sent:
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: [W650riders] Re: bring back
the w650 to the us - Petition

---I doubt if you see the W come back. I think values on W 650s
will
start to go up and bringing more over will dampen that.
For what its' worth, Kawasaki is supposed to bring this to the
states in 2008. IT's got a lot of the Ninja 650R in it and if
you're <BR>a parallel twin fan, what's not to like?

.
Re: Changing main jets - HELP

 

--- In W650riders@..., "jonathan_64_08_22"
<jonathan_64_08_22@...> wrote:
You can bodge it by using thin washers as shims, one per side, but
ideally
you need better more tapered needles. I used a pair of needles meant
for the
Kawasaki four stroke Dual/sport or clubman enduro bike, the KLR250 or
300.
Alternatively you could spring for the Dynojet kit which includes
needles.

cheers

Jon

Hi Jon,

I indeed get the flat spot at 4'500rpm. Really quite annoying. What
are the needles
required to improve this (as per your messages below). Really
appreciate your help.

Thanks

Jonathan
Versys - was: bring back the W to the US petition

Pete Cordell
 

Looking forward to it myself; the Versys ticks all the right boxes
for me. I was hoping Suzuki would re-jigger the 650 Strom just a
bit, as I had seriously considered getting another, but except for
the colors, the '08's are the same. Looked very hard at a
leftover '06 Triumph Tiger recently (came sooooo close to pulling
the trigger on it too) but the relatively high cost (for me) and the
fact that I always - always - seem to gravitate back to the 650/750
class made me back off.

Thanks for the UK link Dennis; as per most UK bike sites there's a
bunch of solid info there.

Pete C


--- In W650riders@..., "Dennis J. Guggemos"
<djguggms@...> wrote:

Biff

Yeah, I'm a fan of that one. The August Cycle World did a write up
on it, really liked it. Recommended reading if the bike peaks your
interest. Detuned 650R, nice power curve. Like a W on steroids.
Whole different look, though.

They're releasing it as an early 08, but not for California. I
hope they bring a Cal legal model in next year. Won't meet smog now.

Here's the US distributor page on it...


If you want to read what the owners think of the Versys, go here...


Dennis

----- Original Message -----
From: bufallobiff
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:55 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us -
Petition


---I doubt if you see the W come back. I think values on W 650s
will
start to go up and bringing more over will dampen that.
For what its' worth, Kawasaki is supposed to bring this to the
states in 2008. IT's got a lot of the Ninja 650R in it and if
you're
a parallel twin fan, what's not to like?
Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition

[email protected]
 

=====================
From: "Dennis J. Guggemos" <djguggms@...>
Date: 2007/07/04 Wed AM 12:16:38 CDT
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition







**
Another cosmic looking bike they dare to call a motorcycle. Now I understand why Im seeing New Harley Sportsters everywhere on the road again...great price and great looks of simplicity.
Just my thoughts on the Versy Matty

Biff??Yeah, I'm a fan of that one. The August Cycle World did a write up on it, really liked it. Recommended reading if the bike peaks your interest. Detuned 650R, nice power curve. Like a W on steroids. Whole different look, though.??They're releasing it as an early 08, but not for California. I hope they bring a Cal legal model in next year. Won't meet smog now.??Here's the US distributor page on it... you want to read what the owners think of the Versys, go here... ----- Original Message ----- From: bufallobiff To: W650riders@... Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition

---I doubt if you see the W come back. I think values on W 650s will
start to go up and bringing more over will dampen that.
For what its' worth, Kawasaki is supposed to bring this to the
states in 2008. IT's got a lot of the Ninja 650R in it and if you're <BR>a parallel twin fan, what's not to like?

.
Re: Changing main jets - HELP

 

Hi Jon,

I indeed get the flat spot at 4'500rpm. Really quite annoying. What are the needles
required to improve this (as per your messages below). Really appreciate your help.

Thanks

Jonathan

--- In W650riders@..., "Jon" <jonhaddock@...> wrote:


No...for now, just do the jets. Your new jets should be 122's. Any bigger
and they are going to be two big. I've dyno'd a stock W with my pipes on and
the bike was virtually perfect with stock 118 jets in. A change to 122's was
perfect. If you drill out the airbox you'll need much bigger mains, and
you'll have to do a fair amount of testing to get them right. Remember, the
main jets only fully come on above 6000 rpm and with holes on the box and a
big set of mains, your needle profile will be miles out.

You'll need to take the carbs off and use an impact driver to crack the four
cross-head screws holding the floatbowl on....OR....Don't bother. The stock
mains WILL be fine. She'll only be a fraction len at very high
revs...certainly not enough to do any harm. I KNOW this because I ran mine
for a good while with stock jets before I got it dyno'd. ...And I couldn't
detect any change in power after the new slightly bigger jets were fitted.

Eventually you'll want to fit better needles to remove the flat spot that
you now have at 4500 up to to 6000 and when you do that might be a good time
to whip the carb bank off and do it all.

Jon




Hello all:

I mounted the silverneck Silverstone exhausts and now need to change the
main jets
(included in the package). Can someone provide some help on how to
dismantle the float
bowls to get to the main jets?

Also, should I open-up the airflow (shelfectomy or drilling 1" hole)?

Thanks



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Re: Another exhaust question

 

Armours made the entire system but it was the hassle of doing the pipes that pissed 'em off. They couldn't be bothered to make up a jig so each set was hand bent....

Jon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Another exhaust question


I'm not aware of any that immediately come to mind in the USA or Europe- you
could ask Jon if he knows or can advise who was the subcontractor for the
header pipes for the Fishpipes. However, here are some Japanese companies,
which may include POSH, Daytona, Daiwa and K-Factory :



Good luck & let me know if you find any!

Ruari




----- Original Message -----
From: "salvyrider" <salvyrider@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Another exhaust question


Hi, Gang.

This is pie-in-the-sky talk, but I was just wondering ...

Someday I'd like to mess around with different exhaust setups for the
W. But I do not want to fold, spindle or mutilate my stock system.

Other than the somewhat pricey stainless header pipes available from
W650shop.de*, is anybody aware of any other header pipes that could be
adapted to the W? Old Triumph, New Triumph, KZ-series twin, Yami
XS650, etc.? I am assuming that - sans crossover - there may be
something out there that would fit.

Would not care about double-wall construction - it would be just for
fun anyway. Would love to salvage something but I don't know what to
look for.

Thanks.

-S

*from stainless head pipes
polished stainless steel, for own aftermarket silencers, kicked-up
style or low style as stock, ask for details, pair ..... ? 298.00

Auspuffkrmmer mit grerem Durchla (38 mm Leistungskrmmer)fr
eigene Schalldmpfer, hochgefhrter Ausla oder untenlaufend wie
Serie, polierter Edelstahl, Details auf Anfrage, Paar.....? 298,00



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Re: Sag or Preload; & suspension

 

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'Sitting on' sag should be approximately 1/4 of full travel.
?
Pre-load is simply turning a ring to pre-compress the spring so when you are moving the ring up to squash the spring you are increasing pre-load. Bear in mind all you do is limit the low speed springing. Once the spring starts to compress it compresses at the normal rate irrespective of preload settings because springs compress linearly.

Hi, I popped by the motorcycle co-op today and they measured my W650 preload "sag."
They are not terribly familiar with older style bikes, they are a sportbike/racer shop.
?
I have Hagon progressive front fork springs, and Hagon 20 Kg. rear classic shocks.
I weigh 198 lbs dry and 217 on the bike with gear.
?
They suggested 30 mm front;? and 35 mm. rear was right for sportbikes.
My results were: Front 50 mm.; and rear 27 mm.
?
Details were:
Front 170 mm. unloaded; 130 one bounce; 120 with full load? = 50mm.
Rear? 160 mm. unloaded; 160 one bounce (note no difference); 133 loaded?= 27 mm.
One bounce means bike loaded under its own weight, no rider.
?
They suggested I use longer spacers in front, and go back to the factory 18 Kg. shocks at the rear.?
Or see if I can adjust the Hagon rear shocks.? They said the longest setting?turned out (which I think I'm on) had the most preload, which I didn't realize, I thought it went the other way.? So I guess I turn it clockwise from the bottom to shorten it to increase the preload sag?? I'm confused.
?
Any comments from you folks?? I wonder if sportbike measurements are applicable here, particularly when the W650 rear shocks are so vertical by comparison.
?
Ruari McLennan
Victoria BC
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Re: Exhaust

 

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It might be that some of the internal packing has degraded. This will improve gas flow and start to lean out the top end which in turn makes the mixture closer to correct and sharpens up the high end exhaust note....

Nah, our aging ears make it quieter!! :-)


On 7/3/07, Dennis J. Guggemos <djguggms@...> wrote:

?Corrosion of internal?ear parts, maybe? Buildup of crud and carbon, maybe?

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Re: Yamaha RD 350 Content

 

BRILLIANT!

Clean 'em both up!

Jon

I bought two RD 350s today, a 1974 RD 350 B (purple) and a 1975 RD 350 C
(orange). OK, so I am lonely/bored and this is what I do.

The plan is to use one for parts and make one a runner, however, both seem
to be intact..the 74 has a holed piston, but everything else is there..the
74 is kinda rusty too.

Anyway, not a big investment yet, it should be fun getting them up and
running...or at least, getting one of them up and running.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)

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Re: Try All=Street+Trial+Flat+MX

 

I thinnk it's a Beta Rev-3. It's a Trials bike and the manouvers he is performing are typical of indoor observed Trials but he's applying them to a freestyle environment. Notice the absence of any seat whatsoever...

Jon

OK, you UK greenlaners and mud scramblers, Go here, scroll down to the
video whose title is above on the Subject line, and someone tell me -
What bike is he riding, What class of bike does it belong to, and how
does one train for that??? Pedal bikes?




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Re: Clutch Adjustment

Anita Reid
 

Ruari,

Thank you so much!!! I certainly will post pic's once I'm done with it. It is my first big bike. I'm a german immigrant in the US and I used to ride in Germany small bikes (Zndapp and Kreidler mainly 50 cc's and dirt bikes), but when my daughter was born I stopped riding (25 years ago).? I enjoyed riding on the back of my husbands bikes, but when he was deployed to Afghanistan (1 1/2 yrs ago) I had to find something to do. I decided bike riding is something I truly enjoy and bought myself a 250 Honda Rebel, however I soon realized it was just not enough power for me on the freeways. I started looking for a used? newer Bonneville and came across a W650 and thought it was a much prettier bike. My husband could not believe I bought this bike while he was gone, he was proud of me, haha. He informed me it is a somewhat rare bike here in the US, they only sold 700 here in the US. And yes I agree with you it does look a lot closer to a Triumph 1959.

Anita

Ruari McLennan wrote:

Anita:? I can't really tell you about other bikes, the W650 is my first (at least my first in 30 years).? But, I hear that like me, most have to get used to a firm flip up into second gear, or it may stay in neutral occasionally.? I still rev her in neutral once in a while.? Also, a slow "tick, tick" sound on idling is normal.? Look out for cracks starting on the rear fender at the edge near the top of the tailligh bracket.??? Keep the oil at 1/2 way up the sight window when cold, not at the top, or it overflows into the airbox.? Test for weave or wobble by taking your hands off and decelerating at 45-50 mph.? No, don't differentiate between the two (W or W), or we'll get a hundred e-mails explaining the difference ad nauseum.?? I will remember the other foibles tomorrow when I get on her.??
Send a pic when your "ride is pimped."? Paul on Vancouver Island here has a nice cafe style W.? I am trying for a 50s standard Britbike look, with lapses like 60s grips & the?later Lucas turn signals and round mirrors.? Look is half the fun with this bike.? I have a theory that the 1999-2000 model is closer to a 1959 T120? first year Triumph "Bonneville" in appearance than any other year, especially the seat, despite all the writers who say it's like a 1968.? Click?Google Images and see if you agree.
?
Ruari
?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita

Ruari McLennan ca> wrote:
Yes, Anita, they are all like that, they grab quickly at the very end of the range. ? I tried to have mine engage the clutch sooner (closer to the grip), but all that happened was I was left with some cable slackness.? Somethig to just get used to.
?
Ruari McLennan
----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Sal,

Thank you very much this is very helpful. My husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how the previous riders rode this bike :)

Anita

Salvyrider <salvyrider@gmail.com> wrote:
The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust for wear like you could in the old days.

Hi, Anita.

First adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only 12K miles.

The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.

-Sal

On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks
Re: Sag or Preload; & suspension

Ruari McLennan
 

Thanks, Bill. I was happy until I found I don't meet current standards.
But then, I don't anyway, so why worry?
I'll look for these and do some learning, & try not to obsess.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill" <boxer12c@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Sag or Preload; & suspension


Motorcycle Consumer News latest issue has an excellent article on
suspension setup. And there's a book called Total Control by Lee
Parks which has a very good chapter on this stuff. Both the W and my
Beemer need new suspenders, an expensive proposition. Sag for my bank
account!
Bill E.



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Re: Clutch Adjustment

Ruari McLennan
 

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Anita:? I can't really tell you about other bikes, the W650 is my first (at least my first in 30 years).? But, I hear that like me, most have to get used to a firm flip up into second gear, or it may stay in neutral occasionally.? I still rev her in neutral once in a while.? Also, a slow "tick, tick" sound on idling is normal.? Look out for cracks starting on the rear fender at the edge near the top of the tailligh bracket.??? Keep the oil at 1/2 way up the sight window when cold, not at the top, or it overflows into the airbox.? Test for weave or wobble by taking your hands off and decelerating at 45-50 mph.? No, don't differentiate between the two (W or W), or we'll get a hundred e-mails explaining the difference ad nauseum.?? I will remember the other foibles tomorrow when I get on her.??
Send a pic when your "ride is pimped."? Paul on Vancouver Island here has a nice cafe style W.? I am trying for a 50s standard Britbike look, with lapses like 60s grips & the?later Lucas turn signals and round mirrors.? Look is half the fun with this bike.? I have a theory that the 1999-2000 model is closer to a 1959 T120? first year Triumph "Bonneville" in appearance than any other year, especially the seat, despite all the writers who say it's like a 1968.? Click?Google Images and see if you agree.
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Ruari
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita

Ruari McLennan wrote:
Yes, Anita, they are all like that, they grab quickly at the very end of the range. ? I tried to have mine engage the clutch sooner (closer to the grip), but all that happened was I was left with some cable slackness.? Somethig to just get used to.
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Ruari McLennan
----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Sal,

Thank you very much this is very helpful. My husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how the previous riders rode this bike :)

Anita

Salvyrider <salvyrider@gmail.com> wrote:
The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust for wear like you could in the old days.

Hi, Anita.

First adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only 12K miles.

The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.

-Sal

On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks
Re: Clutch Adjustment

Anita Reid
 

Dennis,

Thanks!!! Yeah he knows about that. We are stoked about the ride it'll be my first long ride. Going from LA to Monterey, its a great ride along Big Sur. He rides a 04 Triumph Thruxton. Of course when we ride up together to any place everyone thinks the W is a brit bike. I just love bursting their bubble. :)

Anita

"Dennis J. Guggemos" wrote:

Okie dokie, have fun on your run.
?
Oh, even if hubby finds the sprocket as ok, there may be a fair amount? of old chain lube and road grit built up in the cavity. Turns into something like hard tarmac, should be cleaned out every so often. He'll see it if he pops the cover off. If you do replace the sprocket, don't get an original Kawasaki part, it's soft steel, get one from ?. Of course, if it is visibly hooked, probably time for a chain and rear sprocket too.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Dennis, thank you very much for the input. Previous owner replaced the tires already. I ordered the short fender with small tail light from the W650shop.de so I should be good there. I'll have hubby check out the sprocket, it's great to have a slave to do all the dirty work, haha.

Anita
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