Re: NWC Girl talk WAS: goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
You are a very bad man....
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Some girl talk us guys just weren't meant to
see...
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Ruari
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Every time I get on this list, I seem to be wanting a second time after
a while. he he. That's quite a lot 1.5 inches.
?
Laura
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I've spoken to another guy who confirmed that
Armours are not the company they used to be. Frankly, I couldn't in all
seriousness sell them to you guys....
?
Jon
Yes, but, sadly, I was too late on the
bandwagon!??? Did you ever get a chance to talk to Armours
about the possibility of slip-on Fishpipes, Jon?
?
Ruari
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They lok and sound like the Fishpipes to
me!...Sorry!
OK, folks, THIS is the SOUND I want!!!?
Where do we get them?
?
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And are they slip-ons?
?
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
If you fancy trail riding, check out this
site:
?
?
I was hoping to book a day in September but that
looks unlikely now as the Morini bill was about ?650 (ouch!!) but they do women
only days and have bikes suitable for short-legged people.? Their prices
also look very good.? I have spoken to Marianne a couple of times and she
recommends the Serrow if you are on a lower budget.
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Every time I get on this list, I seem to be wanting a second time after a
while. he he. That's quite a lot 1.5 inches. I like sitting on other people's
bikes. Yeah narrow that makes a lot of difference I know.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Hazel
Clarke <hazel@hazelclarke.orangehome.co.uk>
wrote:
You can't rule them out just because they look
high.? I've made the morini lower now by dropping the forks through the
yokes by about 1.5 inches.? It makes loads of difference & it still
has plenty of ground clearance.? The taller looking bikes are often
narrower as well which makes a difference as your legs are reaching more
directly to the ground, if that makes sense.? Get a few people to let
you sit on their bikes to get an idea.
?
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I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy (riding
position), well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But they are
mostly high aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really helpful.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net < jonhaddock@onetel.net > wrote:
That is modern
trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke singles,
tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are very
low
geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
approximately
where the seat would have been.
Other off-road
sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and
like trials, have no
lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually
handle really well but are
stupidly tall to give them masses of
suspension travel...expect seat heights
in excess of 960mm. Proper
Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes with
road front wheels
on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but
are more softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and
have lighting sets.
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and
make literally stunning
commuters. In all seriousness, you would have
to try very hard indeed to
find a better bike than a late model Honda
XR250 for general urban duties.
They weigh...brace yourself...230
lbs....under half your Harley...and 30 bhp
in a bike that light makes
for serious performance. My old Yamaha 465 with
42 bhp would shut
down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot of
Enduro
bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are
Roads...i.e.
'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not
tarmac. In other words,
forgotten about or not used. Because they
were roads, bikes still had to be
fully road legal and obey national
speed limits. They are often just muddy
tracks across moors and
rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes are
not designed for
such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being macho
men we
used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less
robust. They have less
suspension travel, less power and are often
more civilised. You used to find
some in every makers range but today
in the UK, only grey imports are found.
They were popular amongst
older trail riders ( the ones who knew what they
were doing). James
has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and so
on, but older
bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the XR250
Honda is
so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
All off-road
bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
incredibly
light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
superb
handling stability because they are built to win races on
bumpy rough ground
and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a
motocross or enduro bike
with road oriented tyres on usually blows
'proper' road bikes into the
weeds.
They are incredibly comfy
too...really soft seats and amazingly good
suspension make for a real
armchair riding position.
Very high credibility
too......
Jon
> From: Laura
>>Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of
riding
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked
riding on
>>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
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Not two stroke. Very few trail or enduro bikes are
two stroke and those that are tend to be surprisingly quiet unless they've been
played with. Motocross bikes were two stroke up to a few years ago and even
today all the major manufacturers still build two stroke MX bikes. They are so
much better than 4 stroke it's laughable. To give you an idea, the only way to
get four strokes to compete with two strokes in motocross is to let 250 cc four
strokes run with 125 two strokes, and in the 250 cc class, ANY capacity four
stroke up to at least 500cc is allowed to compete against the 250cc?2
strokes.
?
Most trials bikes are two stroke, most Enduro and
MX bikes are now four stroke. A two stroke MX bike is a very VERY quick machine
indeed. Imagine around 65 bhp in a 230 lb bike...basically the same power to
weight ratio as a Fireblade but instantly available. Instant wheelies in the
lower gears...general terror!
?
No, the four strokes are fine...If you can find an
XR250...have a bounce. Please note, the XR400 and XR600 are MUCH taller, don't
confuse them...the 250 is definitely the best.
?
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OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite like the idea.
Are they cheap could I have them as second bike?
KTMs look cool, definitely
too high. A friend just had to have his food reshaped as he came off doing a
wheelie at 70 (we think).
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@... >
wrote:
Yes, they ARE high, some higher than others,
but the Honda XR 250's are OK. I find I can manage those? well with my
27" inside leg, but I can't ride the KTM's for instance.
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Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
I've sort of been interested in
them as they look comfy (riding position), well the ones I saw but don't
know what they were. But they are mostly high aren't they. Thanks for that
long explanation really helpful.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... < jonhaddock@...
> wrote:
That
is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke singles,
tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are
very low
geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black
area approximately
where the seat would have been.
Other
off-road sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for
power and like trials, have no
lights and are not road legal. MX
bikes actually handle really well but are
stupidly tall to give them
masses of suspension travel...expect seat heights
in excess of
960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes with
road
front wheels on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to
motocross but are more softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to
road use, and have lighting sets.
These bikes are usually road legal
in the UK and make literally stunning
commuters. In all seriousness,
you would have to try very hard indeed to
find a better bike than a
late model Honda XR250 for general urban duties.
They weigh...brace
yourself...230 lbs....under half your Harley...and 30 bhp
in a bike
that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha 465 with
42
bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot of
Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are
Roads...i.e.
'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not
tarmac. In other words,
forgotten about or not used. Because they
were roads, bikes still had to be
fully road legal and obey national
speed limits. They are often just muddy
tracks across moors and
rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes are
not designed for
such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being macho
men we
used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less
robust. They have less
suspension travel, less power and are often
more civilised. You used to find
some in every makers range but today
in the UK, only grey imports are found.
They were popular amongst
older trail riders ( the ones who knew what they
were doing). James
has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and so
on, but older
bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the XR250
Honda is
so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
All off-road
bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
incredibly
light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
superb
handling stability because they are built to win races on
bumpy rough ground
and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a
motocross or enduro bike
with road oriented tyres on usually blows
'proper' road bikes into the
weeds.
They are incredibly comfy
too...really soft seats and amazingly good
suspension make for a real
armchair riding position.
Very high credibility
too......
Jon
> From: Laura
>>Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of
riding
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked
riding on
>>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>
> Laura, here's some trials riding:
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Re: NWC Girl talk WAS: goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
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Yes, but, sadly, I was too late on the
bandwagon!??? Did you ever get a chance to talk to Armours about
the possibility of slip-on Fishpipes, Jon?
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Ruari
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They lok and sound like the Fishpipes to
me!...Sorry!
OK, folks, THIS is the SOUND I want!!!?
Where do we get them?
?
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And are they slip-ons?
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Yes, they ARE high, some higher than others, but
the Honda XR 250's are OK. I find I can manage those? well with my 27"
inside leg, but I can't ride the KTM's for instance.
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I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy (riding
position), well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But they are
mostly high aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really helpful.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@... >
wrote:
That
is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke singles,
tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are very
low
geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
approximately
where the seat would have been.
Other off-road
sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and like
trials, have no
lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle
really well but are
stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension
travel...expect seat heights
in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are
basically Motocross bikes with
road front wheels
on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but are
more softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have
lighting sets.
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally stunning
commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try
very hard indeed to
find a better bike than a late model Honda XR250 for
general urban duties.
They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under
half your Harley...and 30 bhp
in a bike that light makes for serious
performance. My old Yamaha 465 with
42 bhp would shut down any musclebike
under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot of
Enduro bikes were bought as
'greenlaners'. Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
'Rights of way open to all
traffic' which were not tarmac. In other words,
forgotten about or not
used. Because they were roads, bikes still had to be
fully road legal
and obey national speed limits. They are often just muddy
tracks across
moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes are
not designed
for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being macho
men we
used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust.
They have less
suspension travel, less power and are often more
civilised. You used to find
some in every makers range but today in the
UK, only grey imports are found.
They were popular amongst older trail
riders ( the ones who knew what they
were doing). James has mentioned the
Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and so
on, but older bikes like the XT250
were very good and frankly, the XR250
Honda is so good and usable it'll
cross into both camps.
All off-road bikes are brilliant fun,
combining punchy motors with
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and
Enduro bikes have to have superb
handling stability because they are
built to win races on bumpy rough ground
and as a consequence, round town
or the lanes, a motocross or enduro bike
with road oriented tyres on
usually blows 'proper' road bikes into the
weeds.
They are
incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
suspension
make for a real armchair riding position.
Very high credibility
too......
Jon
> From: Laura
>>Trials?
Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>>in the
woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>>the grass
at the rally next weekend.
>
> Laura, here's some trials riding:
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You can't rule them out just because they look
high.? I've made the morini lower now by dropping the forks through the
yokes by about 1.5 inches.? It makes loads of difference & it still has
plenty of ground clearance.? The taller looking bikes are often narrower as
well which makes a difference as your legs are reaching more directly to the
ground, if that makes sense.? Get a few people to let you sit on their
bikes to get an idea.
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I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy (riding position),
well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But they are mostly high
aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really helpful.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net <jonhaddock@onetel.net >
wrote:
That is modern
trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke singles,
tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are very low
geared
and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
approximately
where the seat would have been.
Other off-road
sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and like
trials, have no
lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle
really well but are
stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension
travel...expect seat heights
in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are
basically Motocross bikes with
road front wheels
on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but are
more softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have
lighting sets.
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally stunning
commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try
very hard indeed to
find a better bike than a late model Honda XR250 for
general urban duties.
They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under
half your Harley...and 30 bhp
in a bike that light makes for serious
performance. My old Yamaha 465 with
42 bhp would shut down any musclebike
under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot of
Enduro bikes were bought as
'greenlaners'. Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
'Rights of way open to all
traffic' which were not tarmac. In other words,
forgotten about or not
used. Because they were roads, bikes still had to be
fully road legal
and obey national speed limits. They are often just muddy
tracks across
moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes are
not designed
for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being macho
men we
used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust.
They have less
suspension travel, less power and are often more
civilised. You used to find
some in every makers range but today in the
UK, only grey imports are found.
They were popular amongst older trail
riders ( the ones who knew what they
were doing). James has mentioned the
Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and so
on, but older bikes like the XT250
were very good and frankly, the XR250
Honda is so good and usable it'll
cross into both camps.
All off-road bikes are brilliant fun,
combining punchy motors with
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and
Enduro bikes have to have superb
handling stability because they are
built to win races on bumpy rough ground
and as a consequence, round town
or the lanes, a motocross or enduro bike
with road oriented tyres on
usually blows 'proper' road bikes into the
weeds.
They are
incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
suspension
make for a real armchair riding position.
Very high credibility
too......
Jon
> From: Laura
>>Trials?
Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>>in the
woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>>the grass
at the rally next weekend.
>
> Laura, here's some trials riding:
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The same applies to Brands and the viewing and
public facilities are far better. Also due to the nature of the track the racing
tends to be closer
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Thruxton is?only 85 miles and?can
be?almost all up the A roads which makes for a nice ride on a Harley....
No haven't been. hm not sure I'll like that. Yep know where
Brands Hatch is not far. Friend is going to the next race first weekend of
August but we're planning on going to another rally with a few friends.
That's v near to brands again (summer breezer near biggin hill) think my
friend wants to combine the two.
Laura
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Re: Couple of newbie questions.
Jon, that sounds exactly like my shimmy. It is only noticeable when you take your hands off the bars and goes away when you put them back on. If however you continue with the 'no hands' style of riding, it gets a lot worse. I've just had an avon roadrider put on the back wheel and have now arranged for the matching front to be fitted next, so we'll see how we get on with 2 new tyres. I know there is usually no need to ride no hands, but there are times when you have to use just one and I would like to have the confidence that the bike won't throw a wobbly. Thanks, Pete --- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> wrote:
The shimmy is common to many bikes and is cured by a small amount
of friction. The best place to find it is in the front tyre contact patch...The stock front wears badly and the contact patch almost shrinks to nothing. A decent single compound ( i.e. not a stock Accolade) tyre transforms the bike and pretty much sorts the shimmy. I used an Avon Venom .
You should only notice the shimmy if you take your hands off and just a light touch restores equilibrium.
If it still persists enough to annoy, buy a steering damper...That shimmy is what they are built for!
Jon
Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a couple of issues have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.
Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if you've
got both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't,
there is a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought it
mught have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has made
no difference.
Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of
the ride.
Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?
Thanks
Pete
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Re: NWC: : MBS STRIKES AGAIN - WAS goodwood breakfast club
Heck no, ma'am, that'd be downright rude of me. :-)
And even cooler, my vintage BMW is the Ex-Fitch magic /6, with the (literally)
bloody fuel tank.
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That's good, I couldn't really let you sleep in
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Haze
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Hey now, Miss Hazel, I have two BMWs, and I
talk to you all the time, in fact, I have what appears to be the same model
as the one in the photographs you sent. Now talking to Mr. Haddock on the
other hands. Phhht.
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you have a BMW?
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Not only that but it will help me loose weight as I wont be able to
afford
food for a
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That's good, I couldn't really let you sleep in my
shed if you wouldn't talk to me now, could I?
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Hey now, Miss Hazel, I have two BMWs, and I talk
to you all the time, in fact, I have what appears to be the same model as the
one in the photographs you sent. Now talking to Mr. Haddock on the other
hands. Phhht.
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have a BMW?
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Not only that but it will help me loose weight as I wont be able to
afford
food for a month
Dick
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From: <jake@captainjakes.com>
>
Aw, dang it! Guess I'll have to go sleep in Hazel's shed. Well, even
if
> that's the case, I still think it's a good idea, it's a pretty
bike.
>
> Jake
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Hey now, Miss Hazel, I have two BMWs, and I talk to
you all the time, in fact, I have what appears to be the same model as the one
in the photographs you sent. Now talking to Mr. Haddock on the other hands.
Phhht.
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Not only that but it will help me loose weight as I wont be able to
afford
food for a month
Dick
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From: <jake@captainjakes.com>
>
Aw, dang it! Guess I'll have to go sleep in Hazel's shed. Well, even
if
> that's the case, I still think it's a good idea, it's a pretty
bike.
>
> Jake
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That is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke singles, tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are very low geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area approximately where the seat would have been.
Other off-road sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and like trials, have no lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well but are stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension travel...expect seat heights in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes with road front wheels on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but are more softly tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have lighting sets. These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make literally stunning commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try very hard indeed to find a better bike than a late model Honda XR250 for general urban duties. They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under half your Harley...and 30 bhp in a bike that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha 465 with 42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot of Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are Roads...i.e. 'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not tarmac. In other words, forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads, bikes still had to be fully road legal and obey national speed limits. They are often just muddy tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes are not designed for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being macho men we used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust. They have less suspension travel, less power and are often more civilised. You used to find some in every makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports are found. They were popular amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew what they were doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and so on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the XR250 Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
All off-road bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have superb handling stability because they are built to win races on bumpy rough ground and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a motocross or enduro bike with road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into the weeds.
They are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good suspension make for a real armchair riding position.
Very high credibility too......
Jon
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Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
the grass at the rally next weekend. Laura, here's some trials riding:
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Oooh, yeah, nice roads to Thruxton
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Thruxton
is?only 85 miles and?can be?almost all up the A roads which
makes for a nice ride on a Harley....
No haven't been. hm not sure
I'll like that. Yep know where Brands Hatch is not far. Friend is going to the
next race first weekend of August but we're planning on going to another rally
with a few friends. That's v near to brands again (summer breezer near biggin
hill) think my friend wants to combine the two.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Dick Tym <rocker66@...>
wrote:
your
welcome. Have you been to a big race meet yet? If not you really should add it
to your motorcycling experiences. Brands is only 57 miles from Brighton and
easy to find
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Hi Dick,
Yeah it's all becoming a lot clearer, thanks v much!
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Re: Couple of newbie questions.
The shimmy is common to many bikes and is cured by a small amount of friction. The best place to find it is in the front tyre contact patch...The stock front wears badly and the contact patch almost shrinks to nothing. A decent single compound ( i.e. not a stock Accolade) tyre transforms the bike and pretty much sorts the shimmy. I used an Avon Venom .
You should only notice the shimmy if you take your hands off and just a light touch restores equilibrium.
If it still persists enough to annoy, buy a steering damper...That shimmy is what they are built for!
Jon
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Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a couple of issues
have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.
Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if you've got
both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't, there is
a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought it mught
have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has made no
difference.
Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of the ride.
Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?
Thanks
Pete
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Before the local telephone exchange went digital
we couldn't get DSL and I looked briefly at satellite but it was touted as a
business solution only as it was so expensive.
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There's one other slight problemmette.....You
only get fast downloads ... unless your receiver dish is actually a
transmitter as well, so you need to keep your phone line .....
Too far out to get DSL. I could get cable, but that would
involve digging a 90 foot trench down to the pole on the road, can't go
overhead wires, all utilities are buried here. Also cable would cost as much
per month. I have satellite tv and love it.
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Can't you get ordinary broadband?
Anyone using a satellite internet provider? We're stuck
on a 56k modem that rarely runs faster than 28k, I was thinking of going
to Hughesnet as the costs are coming down. If so, I'd appreciate your
opinion.
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