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---I've got a Gunfighter and lady (no backrest) with blue piping I'd
trade even steven if you're interested.








In W650riders@..., "toddseaburykolod" <toddseabury@...>
wrote:

W650 Riders,

I am switching over to a Gunfighter and Lady. I have a Gunfighter

for

sale. It's in very good condition. I just bought the bike--but I
know that it was always stored covered...and in a garage. It's black
leather with an all black design.

It's yours for $100 plus shipping. They retail for $299.

Todd
St. Paul, MN

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Had to take my W in for its MOT test this morning, so while I was
waiting I took the Versys demonstrator out for a blat.
Wow, very nice bike. Certainly a lot quicker than the W even if
lacking the lovely gruntyness; but what really hit me was just how
planted it felt on the road. Absolutely rock steady. And the single
front disc is in a whole different league.
I was very enthused, but as I don't have ?4395 (what a bargain!) to
hand I was very pleased that my W still felt pretty damn good when I
got back on it. The W seems tiny in comparison though; I felt so
much more visible on top of that flame orange Versys!
If I can ever afford a second bike again I reckon that'll be it.
Pete

--- In W650riders@..., "Dennis J. Guggemos"
<djguggms@...> wrote:

This I take issue with. The 650Rs power delivery is one reason I

bought it. Feels like 2 singles grunting out of a corner. Rarely do
I take it to 8500 RPM (max hp). Usually it's ridden like the W, just
add 1000 rpm to everything.

You need to ride one before you flag it with the generalizations.

It's not a buzzy ER5.

Dennis

Shelf life for gas was 6 months, it was considered stale after that.

Shelf life for ethanol seems to be half that (previous experience with 65 trainning bikes, I rotated my personal bikes but Maui and Hawaii only ran 1 class per month).

Still, I would recommend filling your tank before storage, with stabil or something similar in it..but I would drain the tank and fill with fresh gas before I rode it . I would fill the tank because if it is not full, condensation can build up inside it which will result in rust.


James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: Salvyrider <salvyrider@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Seeking advice on long-term storage
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:20:45 -0400

Without European motoring experience, I don't know much about the shelf life
of continental petrol. This is an interesting area to explore. Obviously,
our proclivity towards stabilizer is based on our experience with Yankee gas
- which goes bad amazingly fast. I've seen it go in a matter of a few weeks
under the right conditions.

(And you have not lived until you've experienced the heady bouquet of stale
gasoline. Mmmmmm.)

Good luck.

-S

On 7/6/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@...> wrote:

Just drain the float bowls, put the battery on a maintenance charger and
put
Mobil 1 into the motor. The oil won't suck in moisture, the fuel will
light
up after 11 months, and the battery will be fine. If you REALLY worry, run

the bike almost out of fuel and drain the remainder into a fuel can. Top
the
fuel can off with pump fuel, seal and leave.
Refill from that can and go to the petrol station.
Modern bikes don't vent fuel vapour so the fuel will remain healthy in the

tank. Only the float bowl fuel will 'go off'...which is the reason it is
sometimes hard to start over-wintered bikes. The moment fresh fuel gets
into
the bowls, it'll light up like it was running yesterday

Hi Larry,

_________________________________________________________________

Shelf life for gas was 6 months, it was considered stale after that.

Shelf life for ethanol seems to be half that (previous experience with 65 trainning bikes, I rotated my personal bikes but Maui and Hawaii only ran 1 class per month).

Still, I would recommend filling your tank before storage, with stabil or something similar in it..but I would drain the tank and fill with fresh gas before I rode it . I would fill the tank because if it is not full, condensation can build up inside it which will result in rust.


James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: Salvyrider <salvyrider@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Seeking advice on long-term storage
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:20:45 -0400

Without European motoring experience, I don't know much about the shelf life
of continental petrol. This is an interesting area to explore. Obviously,
our proclivity towards stabilizer is based on our experience with Yankee gas
- which goes bad amazingly fast. I've seen it go in a matter of a few weeks
under the right conditions.

(And you have not lived until you've experienced the heady bouquet of stale
gasoline. Mmmmmm.)

Good luck.

-S

On 7/6/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@...> wrote:

Just drain the float bowls, put the battery on a maintenance charger and
put
Mobil 1 into the motor. The oil won't suck in moisture, the fuel will
light
up after 11 months, and the battery will be fine. If you REALLY worry, run

the bike almost out of fuel and drain the remainder into a fuel can. Top
the
fuel can off with pump fuel, seal and leave.
Refill from that can and go to the petrol station.
Modern bikes don't vent fuel vapour so the fuel will remain healthy in the

tank. Only the float bowl fuel will 'go off'...which is the reason it is
sometimes hard to start over-wintered bikes. The moment fresh fuel gets
into
the bowls, it'll light up like it was running yesterday

Hi Larry,

_________________________________________________________________

Shelf life for gas was 6 months, it was considered stale after that.

Shelf life for ethanol seems to be half that (previous experience with 65 trainning bikes, I rotated my personal bikes but Maui and Hawaii only ran 1 class per month).

Still, I would recommend filling your tank before storage, with stabil or something similar in it..but I would drain the tank and fill with fresh gas before I rode it . I would fill the tank because if it is not full, condensation can build up inside it which will result in rust.


James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





From: Salvyrider <salvyrider@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Seeking advice on long-term storage
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:20:45 -0400

Without European motoring experience, I don't know much about the shelf life
of continental petrol. This is an interesting area to explore. Obviously,
our proclivity towards stabilizer is based on our experience with Yankee gas
- which goes bad amazingly fast. I've seen it go in a matter of a few weeks
under the right conditions.

(And you have not lived until you've experienced the heady bouquet of stale
gasoline. Mmmmmm.)

Good luck.

-S

On 7/6/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@...> wrote:

Just drain the float bowls, put the battery on a maintenance charger and
put
Mobil 1 into the motor. The oil won't suck in moisture, the fuel will
light
up after 11 months, and the battery will be fine. If you REALLY worry, run

the bike almost out of fuel and drain the remainder into a fuel can. Top
the
fuel can off with pump fuel, seal and leave.
Refill from that can and go to the petrol station.
Modern bikes don't vent fuel vapour so the fuel will remain healthy in the

tank. Only the float bowl fuel will 'go off'...which is the reason it is
sometimes hard to start over-wintered bikes. The moment fresh fuel gets
into
the bowls, it'll light up like it was running yesterday

Hi Larry,

_________________________________________________________________

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Original Message:
-----------------
From: Dennis J. Guggemos djguggms@...

Always carry a bungee with me, that works too.

Dennis

Just drain the float bowls, put the battery on a maintenance charger and put Mobil 1 into the motor. The oil won't suck in moisture, the fuel will light up after 11 months, and the battery will be fine. If you REALLY worry, run the bike almost out of fuel and drain the remainder into a fuel can. Top the fuel can off with pump fuel, seal and leave.
Refill from that can and go to the petrol station.
Modern bikes don't vent fuel vapour so the fuel will remain healthy in the tank. Only the float bowl fuel will 'go off'...which is the reason it is sometimes hard to start over-wintered bikes. The moment fresh fuel gets into the bowls, it'll light up like it was running yesterday



Hi Larry,

I've noticed that european fuel is almost white compared to the more
yellow redish color of the fuel here while I don't know anything
about the consistency standard. My worry is that the bike will not
move for 11 months a year. I guess from what your saying that I might
not find stabilizers in Europe, a mechanic in the village there did
not even know what I was talking about when I mentioned it. I'll have
to ask around how to send it from here. Does anyone know how long the
stabilizer is good for, one, two, five years? Does it turn to varnish
at some point? Thanks for your input.

Robert

--- In W650riders@..., "larry.botheras@..."
<larry.botheras@...> wrote:

European fuel is manufactured to a more consistent standard than NA
fuel, and so Stabil type products aren't so apparent over here.

Our 5

or 6 of our eight bikes overwinter from Oct/Nov to Mar/Apr with

nothing

done to the gas, other than running the carbs out... (Change the

oil

etc) Never had an issue starting in the new year.






I will buy and store the bike in France, the winters there are not
very cold, it freezes a couple of times a year during the night but
always gets up above freezing during the day. The garage is

unheated.

I think the stabiliser is a good idea. In fact, I bought some in
Montreal to bring over there (could not find it in France) but
abandonned the idea since it is a flammable item and is not allowed
on planes.





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Or putting the bike in gear....if it's not already in gear....ought to
work also.

Vernon

Pretty good -- but my advice is to also carry a short velcro strap

and velcro

the front brake, so the bike won't roll.

In a message dated 7/5/2007 5:21:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
djguggms@... writes:

Keith W. asked me to post this, haven't watched it, but here it is.

Dennis

Rrrose.
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